Council Bankrupt/****ing money up a tree - Parking Ticket

Council Bankrupt/****ing money up a tree - Parking Ticket

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Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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iSore said:
you had to be vigilant
Oh NO! What a terrible imposition.

iSore

4,011 posts

143 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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ZOLLAR said:
I think your opinion is shocking
OH NO!

Oddly enough, I had no trouble getting to sleep............

iSore

4,011 posts

143 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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The Mad Monk said:
I really can't imagine
No, clearly!

LucreLout

908 posts

117 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Ian Geary said:
That doesn't mean councils still won't screw things up. And more reliance on income from charges and penalties is an inevitable outcome of cuts.
Its not inevitable, but it might be expedient.

Councils were supposed to find efficiency gains in their back offices by cutting staff, pay, and perks, and by automating and working harder. They weren't supposed to carry on as before and find ways to soak the motorist for still more cash.

So yes, it may be expedient for the council, but its far from inevitable.

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

172 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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iSore said:
ZOLLAR said:
I think your opinion is shocking
OH NO!

Oddly enough, I had no trouble getting to sleep............
I didn't expect you to, nonetheless my thoughts still stand.

iSore

4,011 posts

143 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Sheffield has been plagued by these bds:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27952341

But hopefully for not much longer. These efficient little patriots skulk away in a white Fiesta van doing their valuable deeds without leaving the car. Nice work.

Like the OP, I realise there is a need for parking enforcement but mourn the passing of any kind of fair play.

iSore

4,011 posts

143 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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ZOLLAR said:
I didn't expect you to, nonetheless my thoughts still stand.
I shall bear your valuable contribution in mind - many thanks.

Riktoid

231 posts

111 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Comply citizens.

You are there to provide funds to your betters.

Oh, and the 'council owned' nonsense really gets on my wick. It's all owned by you and I. It's managed on our behalf by the incompetent clowns. They need reminding of that fact regularly.

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Riktoid said:
Comply citizens.

You are there to provide funds to your betters.

Oh, and the 'council owned' nonsense really gets on my wick. It's all owned by you and I. It's managed on our behalf by the incompetent clowns. They need reminding of that fact regularly.
By having their minions reduced to tears or punched in the face?

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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I'd pay the £25 but make sure I used more than £25 of services as I'm childish like that. Go to the tip a few more times etc to get my money's worth!
Also boycott the local shops for a while, go to another town where they are a bit more reasonable..

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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charltjr said:
Yep, I've found myself doing that.

I've been ticketed in that situation too.

I thought "bks, fair enough though, I'm the one who went over the time limit" and paid it.

Clearly I should have pissed many hours of my time and other people's time up the wall because it's so unfair. I wish I wasn't so weak.
+1

Was it a minute late according to your watch, or the ticket machine?

Personally, I think late is late, and if you know you're late - and, crucially, you weren't aware of the 3 minute grace period until AFTER you'd appealed, moaned, and then gone to the CEO of the Council (I bet you used the "I'll go to your boss" line on the parking officer?) - and you still carry on, then you can't complain about the costs. You instigated the appeal after you were caught overstaying your parking. The 3 minute grace thing didn't become apparant until after you'd started the appeal, if I'm reading it right, so your argument that you were within time is wrong.

(You = OP, obv)

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

172 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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iSore said:
ZOLLAR said:
I didn't expect you to, nonetheless my thoughts still stand.
I shall bear your valuable contribution in mind - many thanks.
No worries smile

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Jimboka said:
I'd pay the £25 but make sure I used more than £25 of services as I'm childish like that. Go to the tip a few more times etc to get my money's worth!
Also boycott the local shops for a while, go to another town where they are a bit more reasonable..
Excellent idea; punish local small business owners who have nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Really? I sometimes wonder how some PHers manage to tie their own shoes let alone work a computer to post such drivel.

Riktoid

231 posts

111 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Pothole said:
Riktoid said:
Comply citizens.

You are there to provide funds to your betters.

Oh, and the 'council owned' nonsense really gets on my wick. It's all owned by you and I. It's managed on our behalf by the incompetent clowns. They need reminding of that fact regularly.
By having their minions reduced to tears or punched in the face?
Show me where I said that.

Riktoid

231 posts

111 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Pothole said:
Jimboka said:
I'd pay the £25 but make sure I used more than £25 of services as I'm childish like that. Go to the tip a few more times etc to get my money's worth!
Also boycott the local shops for a while, go to another town where they are a bit more reasonable..
Excellent idea; punish local small business owners who have nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Really? I sometimes wonder how some PHers manage to tie their own shoes let alone work a computer to post such drivel.

You don't happen to sit on a committee or two perchance?

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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Riktoid said:
Pothole said:
Riktoid said:
Comply citizens.

You are there to provide funds to your betters.

Oh, and the 'council owned' nonsense really gets on my wick. It's all owned by you and I. It's managed on our behalf by the incompetent clowns. They need reminding of that fact regularly.
By having their minions reduced to tears or punched in the face?
Show me where I said that.
Show me where I said you did?

QED my other point!

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

172 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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iSore said:
ZOLLAR said:
I think your opinion is shocking
OH NO!

Oddly enough, I had no trouble getting to sleep............
That's because you are obviously a tt.

iSore

4,011 posts

143 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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berlintaxi said:
That's because you are obviously a tt.
Oooh, internet tough guy! :-)

Not reduced to tears yet - keep trying flower. xxxxxxx

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

254 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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charltjr said:
Yep, I've found myself doing that.

I've been ticketed in that situation too.

I thought "bks, fair enough though, I'm the one who went over the time limit" and paid it.

Clearly I should have pissed many hours of my time and other people's time up the wall because it's so unfair. I wish I wasn't so weak.
And if you got an FPN issued 1 minute before you ticket expired, would you accept that? It's no different if you are given 3 minutes grace but the parking tossers choose to ignore it.

daveinhampshire

527 posts

125 months

Tuesday 31st March 2015
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It's not fair to keep digging at the enforcement officers. I used to be one in Edinburgh, in fact I was the one that broke the story to the local paper that we had been given targets despite the denials by the council. A week later a load of others blew the whistle.

Our target depending on area was 12 a day, doesn't sound many but it was. In order to hit the target we had to hit the schools at kicking out time(most of them were issued fairly) and hit known parking hot spots. If you didn't hit your quote you'd be summoned and put in for further training. All of that hassle on stress on minimum wage. Add the members of the public abuse it was a pretty horrible job.

In this case the OP was late, one minute is still over time, I'd have personally paid it than go through all that crap. Grace periods are discretionary, even if the council doesn't abide by them the ticket being out of time is undeniable.