Are there really fields full of new cars just rotting...?

Are there really fields full of new cars just rotting...?

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Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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emicen said:
If it is to current model year spec and your name is the first one on the log book, it is a new car.
I don't know if they still do it, but Ford used to do quarter model year cars - so you'd get 2015.25, .5, .75, with tiny spec changes.

It was big thing to us at the time as it was around the time ABS was starting to be fitted as standard - dealer said if we ordered one he didn't know which iteration would turn up so didn't know if it would ABS or not.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
MGJohn said:
Yes, agreed. On that line of thinking, there never has been a truly new car ever.
Oh, I dunno. Just think of all the premium brands offering handover at the factory...
http://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/fa...
OK, I'll split another hair. If following final assembly, the mythical premium brand car is rolled an inch or two, that immediately becomes a used car!

See, no matter where you drawn the line in the sand, my grain of sand is considerably bigger .. wink

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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MGJohn said:
OK, I'll split another hair. If following final assembly, the mythical premium brand car is rolled an inch or two, that immediately becomes a used car!

See, no matter where you drawn the line in the sand, my grain of sand is considerably bigger .. wink
Self-built kit car with all new components ?

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

231 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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MGJohn said:
shake n bake said:
Cliftonite said:
Did you know that before you bought it, with a price that matched its age?

If not, grounds for rejection, surely?
You're one of 'those' people aren't you.

Find a grain of sand and then turn it in to a mountain bigger than Everest. Get a hobby.
Yes, agreed. On that line of thinking, there never has been a truly new car ever.

I was on the M5 a few days ago at Motorway speed. I was passed by a un-registered plateless new car on Trade Plates. Must have been doing 80+mph. How new is that?

By the way, my grain of sand is bigger than you'n.... wink
A couple of months ago I bought a beard trimmer smile It was in one of those sort of shops where you get the impression some things have been on the shelves for AGES.

A question for you:
Should I have rejected it, demanded a discount or bought elsewhere because it was not fresh out of the factory and had been sat on their shelf for maybe possibly a "long time"?

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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CharlieCrocodile said:
https://goo.gl/maps/h4SoR

Upper Heyford, I think used to store Rovers.
I went there for some crappy "driving experience" day in about 2004 and it was crammed with Rovers.

I knew they were in trouble then.

Cliftonite

8,412 posts

139 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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shake n bake said:
Cliftonite said:
Did you know that before you bought it, with a price that matched its age?

If not, grounds for rejection, surely?
You're one of 'those' people aren't you.

Find a grain of sand and then turn it in to a mountain bigger than Everest. Get a hobby.
Such sophistication,  charm and wit!

You are Noel Coward AICMFP.

smile

 



MGJohn

10,203 posts

184 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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LeoZwalf said:
A couple of months ago I bought a beard trimmer smile It was in one of those sort of shops where you get the impression some things have been on the shelves for AGES.

A question for you:
Should I have rejected it, demanded a discount or bought elsewhere because it was not fresh out of the factory and had been sat on their shelf for maybe possibly a "long time"?
Unclean ... Unclean!

No. A close shave with a proper razor would have saved you all that worrying decision making. thumbup

It is not unknown for staff to use stuff on the shelves and craftily put it back after use ... Human nature and all that.

Finally, always ask for a discount even if it's merely the cut the credit card takes by paying cash instead. Done that many times. Cash has its uses.

Another thing. Two expensive tins of paint on the shelf, one tin with a dent in it but tin still intact. I asked if there's any discount for the paint in the damaged tin. There was ... that's another few quid saved.

Always ask politely for a discount particularly when paying cash. If refused.. walk. That can work and sometimes you will be called back and a better deal offered. That ploy saved me a few thousands when buying a new car some years ago. On another occasion I had an attractive credit sales exec spend ages trying to get me to buy a new car on credit and use the cash for something else. She was very persuasive but I declined. Some folks just don't get it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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I regularly drive past the BMW / Mini distribution place at Thorne on the M180. There are lots of cars there (of course) but they do seem to move them on pretty quickly and the overall number seems (to the untrained but observant eye) fairly static.

Back in early 2008 - around the financial crisis time - the stock level increased massively, filling up 2 adjacent facilities (one that used to be stoneacre and another that used to be something that I can't remember the name of). I guesstimate that the stock peaked at over double the norm.

It was back under control by the end of the summer

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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Is this really anything new? And it's no diffrent to a dealer having excess stock parked up. If you go along hadfirld road in cardiff There's hundreds of brand new cars waiting to be sold. The dealers forecourts aren't massive so they have to be kept somewhere. They sell eventually. Mostly new seat ibizas which sell for less than 10k in the dealer so it's good to have a fair few in stock. When we looked the dealer had 11 collections of new ones on the same day.


People on Pistonheads go on and on about buying new cars and thst its stupid then moan when they are stored for a while? At the end of the day the factories still have to manufacture the cars to keep their staff
In jobs.

Having them pre built means they are available quickly When people want them

Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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Nickbrapp said:
People on Pistonheads go on and on about buying new cars and thst its stupid then moan when they are stored for a while?
I don't see anyone moaning about cars being stored?

What you do see on PH is a lot of people moaning about long lead-times, and delivery delays.

Interesting how differently it's done in the US - most "ordinary" cars are sold from stock there. Dealers there carry large numbers of cars, even models that are on long lead-times here.