RE: Porsche Boxster Spyder is back!
Discussion
RichB said:
georgeq said:
Visually the base 981 Boxster is a better looking car to my eyes.
Tell me I'm wrong...
You're not wrong. The new Boxster looks a bit like it's trying too hard with those head fairings. Too fat at the back Tell me I'm wrong...
Unlike the GT4, this has the same section-width tires (and normal tires at that) as any other Boxster, yet with the "Sport Chassis"/"Sport Suspension", including the super-stiff rear antiroll bar. This is now the slidey-est car Porsche sells, all 911s included.
Differences from the Boxster GTS:
Exterior
* GT4 front fascia
* GT4 rear fascia
* GT4 middle cooler
* SportDesign Mirrors
* Lighter 20” wheels
* Lighter weight electric/manual top
* New rear decklid
* Ducktail spoiler (yes, it raises and lowers)
* Regular taillamps (headlamps are smoked)
Mechanical
* 3.8L (+400cc) flat-six, 375HP (+45 SAE Net) @ 6700rpm, 310lb-ft (+37) @ 4750-6000rpm
* 6-piston (+2) 340mm (+10mm) front brakes, 4-piston 330mm (+31mm) rear brakes
* Dual-mass flywheel
* Manual transmission standard, no PDK option
* Porsche Torque Vectoring (and mechanical LSD) standard
* X73 Sport Suspension standard, no PASM option
* Smaller 54L fuel tank standard (64L no cost option)
Interior
* No A/C standard
* No audio system standard
* GT4 steering wheel
* Fabric door pull loops
* Optional Lightweight Sport Bucket seats (US, standard in EU)
* Body-colored dash trim standard
* Optional Spyder Classic interior package
30kg less weight, more torque, no more tire, X73 standard, and only 2HP shy of the same P/W ratio as a manual Carrera 2S.
Differences from the Boxster GTS:
Exterior
* GT4 front fascia
* GT4 rear fascia
* GT4 middle cooler
* SportDesign Mirrors
* Lighter 20” wheels
* Lighter weight electric/manual top
* New rear decklid
* Ducktail spoiler (yes, it raises and lowers)
* Regular taillamps (headlamps are smoked)
Mechanical
* 3.8L (+400cc) flat-six, 375HP (+45 SAE Net) @ 6700rpm, 310lb-ft (+37) @ 4750-6000rpm
* 6-piston (+2) 340mm (+10mm) front brakes, 4-piston 330mm (+31mm) rear brakes
* Dual-mass flywheel
* Manual transmission standard, no PDK option
* Porsche Torque Vectoring (and mechanical LSD) standard
* X73 Sport Suspension standard, no PASM option
* Smaller 54L fuel tank standard (64L no cost option)
Interior
* No A/C standard
* No audio system standard
* GT4 steering wheel
* Fabric door pull loops
* Optional Lightweight Sport Bucket seats (US, standard in EU)
* Body-colored dash trim standard
* Optional Spyder Classic interior package
30kg less weight, more torque, no more tire, X73 standard, and only 2HP shy of the same P/W ratio as a manual Carrera 2S.
Edited by Goofnik on Wednesday 1st April 19:45
Corpulent Tosser said:
Petee said:
malucnojes said:
Potentially a stupid question but how does a 'flat' 6 from a 911 work in a Boxster that traditionally has a 'boxer' engine?
Potentially a stupid answer but I thought a boxer WAS a flat six engine...Goofnik said:
Unlike the GT4, this has the same section-width tires (and normal tires at that) as any other Boxster, yet with the "Sport Chassis"/"Sport Suspension", including the super-stiff rear antiroll bar. This is now the slidey-est car Porsche sells, all 911s included.
Differences from the Boxster GTS:
Exterior
* GT4 front fascia
* GT4 rear fascia
* GT4 middle cooler
* SportDesign Mirrors
* Lighter 20” wheels
* Lighter weight electric/manual top
* New rear decklid
* Ducktail spoiler (yes, it raises and lowers)
* Regular taillamps (headlamps are smoked)
Mechanical
* 3.8L (+400cc) flat-six, 375HP (+45 SAE Net) @ 6700rpm, 310lb-ft (+37) @ 4750-6000rpm
* 6-piston (+2) 340mm (+10mm) front brakes, 4-piston 330mm (+31mm) rear brakes
* Dual-mass flywheel
* Manual transmission standard, no PDK option
* Porsche Torque Vectoring (and mechanical LSD) standard
* X73 Sport Suspension standard, no PASM option
* Smaller 54L fuel tank standard (64L no cost option)
Interior
* No A/C standard
* No audio system standard
* GT4 steering wheel
* Fabric door pull loops
* Optional Lightweight Sport Bucket seats (US, standard in EU)
* Body-colored dash trim standard
* Optional Spyder Classic interior package
30kg less weight, more torque, no more tire, X73 standard, and only 2HP shy of the same P/W ratio as a manual Carrera 2S.
Rear wheels are wider at 10.5J x20Differences from the Boxster GTS:
Exterior
* GT4 front fascia
* GT4 rear fascia
* GT4 middle cooler
* SportDesign Mirrors
* Lighter 20” wheels
* Lighter weight electric/manual top
* New rear decklid
* Ducktail spoiler (yes, it raises and lowers)
* Regular taillamps (headlamps are smoked)
Mechanical
* 3.8L (+400cc) flat-six, 375HP (+45 SAE Net) @ 6700rpm, 310lb-ft (+37) @ 4750-6000rpm
* 6-piston (+2) 340mm (+10mm) front brakes, 4-piston 330mm (+31mm) rear brakes
* Dual-mass flywheel
* Manual transmission standard, no PDK option
* Porsche Torque Vectoring (and mechanical LSD) standard
* X73 Sport Suspension standard, no PASM option
* Smaller 54L fuel tank standard (64L no cost option)
Interior
* No A/C standard
* No audio system standard
* GT4 steering wheel
* Fabric door pull loops
* Optional Lightweight Sport Bucket seats (US, standard in EU)
* Body-colored dash trim standard
* Optional Spyder Classic interior package
30kg less weight, more torque, no more tire, X73 standard, and only 2HP shy of the same P/W ratio as a manual Carrera 2S.
Edited by Goofnik on Wednesday 1st April 19:45
Pope said:
Rear wheels are wider at 10.5J x20
Still a 265-section width as the Boxster/S/GTS, so claims the brochure (though that would be a seriously stretched tire). It'll offer a hair more grip, but nothing like the 295s shod on the 11Jx20s on the GT4. I agree, something is amiss. My guess is a 285-section width, not 265 as the brochure claims.Edited by Goofnik on Wednesday 1st April 20:39
SFO said:
no cost options
Right, but the point is, compared to a GTS, they are normally not there (which was the point of the list -- differences from a GTS). Moreover, in a GTS you don't have the ability to have them not installed by the factory.Edited by Goofnik on Wednesday 1st April 21:24
Goofnik said:
Unlike the GT4, this has the same section-width tires (and normal tires at that) as any other Boxster, yet with the "Sport Chassis"/"Sport Suspension", including the super-stiff rear antiroll bar. This is now the slidey-est car Porsche sells, all 911s included.
Differences from the Boxster GTS:
Exterior
* GT4 front fascia
* GT4 rear fascia
* GT4 middle cooler
* SportDesign Mirrors
* Lighter 20” wheels
* Lighter weight electric/manual top
* New rear decklid
* Ducktail spoiler (yes, it raises and lowers)
* Regular taillamps (headlamps are smoked)
Mechanical
* 3.8L (+400cc) flat-six, 375HP (+45 SAE Net) @ 6700rpm, 310lb-ft (+37) @ 4750-6000rpm
* 6-piston (+2) 340mm (+10mm) front brakes, 4-piston 330mm (+31mm) rear brakes
* Dual-mass flywheel
* Manual transmission standard, no PDK option
* Porsche Torque Vectoring (and mechanical LSD) standard
* X73 Sport Suspension standard, no PASM option
* Smaller 54L fuel tank standard (64L no cost option)
Interior
* No A/C standard
* No audio system standard
* GT4 steering wheel
* Fabric door pull loops
* Optional Lightweight Sport Bucket seats (US, standard in EU)
* Body-colored dash trim standard
* Optional Spyder Classic interior package
30kg less weight, more torque, no more tire, X73 standard, and only 2HP shy of the same P/W ratio as a manual Carrera 2S.
Has the GT4 'stubby' gear lever also?Differences from the Boxster GTS:
Exterior
* GT4 front fascia
* GT4 rear fascia
* GT4 middle cooler
* SportDesign Mirrors
* Lighter 20” wheels
* Lighter weight electric/manual top
* New rear decklid
* Ducktail spoiler (yes, it raises and lowers)
* Regular taillamps (headlamps are smoked)
Mechanical
* 3.8L (+400cc) flat-six, 375HP (+45 SAE Net) @ 6700rpm, 310lb-ft (+37) @ 4750-6000rpm
* 6-piston (+2) 340mm (+10mm) front brakes, 4-piston 330mm (+31mm) rear brakes
* Dual-mass flywheel
* Manual transmission standard, no PDK option
* Porsche Torque Vectoring (and mechanical LSD) standard
* X73 Sport Suspension standard, no PASM option
* Smaller 54L fuel tank standard (64L no cost option)
Interior
* No A/C standard
* No audio system standard
* GT4 steering wheel
* Fabric door pull loops
* Optional Lightweight Sport Bucket seats (US, standard in EU)
* Body-colored dash trim standard
* Optional Spyder Classic interior package
30kg less weight, more torque, no more tire, X73 standard, and only 2HP shy of the same P/W ratio as a manual Carrera 2S.
Edited by Goofnik on Wednesday 1st April 19:45
georgeq said:
Is it just me or did the Cayman GT4 become a lot less desirable over night... I'd take this over a GT4 any time of the day, it's not like I would use the GT3 bits on the road.
Hopefully this will put a decent dent into the 987 Spyder residuals.
Exactly what I thought too.Hopefully this will put a decent dent into the 987 Spyder residuals.
I read somewhere that a family in Suffolk has now won £1m twice in the Euromillions lottery. Surely my moment is coming...
For the record I would really like it in that baby blue colour of the old 997 GT3 press car, but looking at the configurator it doesn't appear to be available. Boo. Would probably have it in white then.
Also I would get the air con and radio.
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