RE: VW Golf R: PH Fleet
Discussion
PK0001 said:
Impress the neighbours
Can play with Porsche's and other sub exotics
Blast the diesel rep into the weeds
Suits a push-on driving style
Go to a mates wedding and arrive in style
Go to a school reunion and look successful ( shallow I know but we would all do it )
Looks good on the driveway
Has a positive image
I cannot imagine anyone being impressed by such a boring, accessible car.Can play with Porsche's and other sub exotics
Blast the diesel rep into the weeds
Suits a push-on driving style
Go to a mates wedding and arrive in style
Go to a school reunion and look successful ( shallow I know but we would all do it )
Looks good on the driveway
Has a positive image
wormus said:
PK0001 said:
Impress the neighbours
Can play with Porsche's and other sub exotics
Blast the diesel rep into the weeds
Suits a push-on driving style
Go to a mates wedding and arrive in style
Go to a school reunion and look successful ( shallow I know but we would all do it )
Looks good on the driveway
Has a positive image
I cannot imagine anyone being impressed by such a boring, accessible car.Can play with Porsche's and other sub exotics
Blast the diesel rep into the weeds
Suits a push-on driving style
Go to a mates wedding and arrive in style
Go to a school reunion and look successful ( shallow I know but we would all do it )
Looks good on the driveway
Has a positive image
I ordered a new one last year, after waiting 5 months for deliver I was almost bursting with excitement
The day I got it I drove it 110 miles on varying roads and when I got home, I knew I'd bought the wrong car.
I managed another 5 weeks before I sold it at 1,300 miles
Yes it was fast, but my got it was boring, had absolutely no sole or excitement about it - the single most disappointing car I've ever bought.
On the flip side, the M135i I've now had for a month is fabulous by comparison, you pays your money...........
The day I got it I drove it 110 miles on varying roads and when I got home, I knew I'd bought the wrong car.
I managed another 5 weeks before I sold it at 1,300 miles
Yes it was fast, but my got it was boring, had absolutely no sole or excitement about it - the single most disappointing car I've ever bought.
On the flip side, the M135i I've now had for a month is fabulous by comparison, you pays your money...........
Edited by dmcrobin on Thursday 2nd April 19:19
It does make me wonder when Golf R owners say the car is capable of all the day to day stuff. A Golf GTD can do all that too, it's just slower!
With all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
With all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
Selmer Mk6 said:
It does make me wonder when Golf R owners say the car is capable of all the day to day stuff. A Golf GTD can do all that too, it's just slower!
With all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
I think it's a great car, good for everything. Looking forward to hammering up to Manchester from Bristol this weekend. I did get one due to a stupidly cheap lese deal. With all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
My other car, which is actually my usual daily driver, is an Aston V12V.
Selmer Mk6 said:
It does make me wonder when Golf R owners say the car is capable of all the day to day stuff. A Golf GTD can do all that too, it's just slower!
With all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
Many of people I've seen buying one are usually long running Golf owners that were going to buy a Golf no matter what. With all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
There is also a whole group that bought them on cheap lease deals and that was the only reason they did get one. They could see the car for what it was, but the price was good for a new car.
Then there is all the young lads that never had the finances to access a 300bhp car before. Reading other sites I don't think I've ever seen so many very young lads make the jump from 1.0/1.2l bangers to a £30,000 hot hatch. The cheap lease deals brought £30,000 right down to a very low level.
Even still I'm amazed with how many young boys own a Golf R. It doesn't really fit in with the Golf image and to me, it gives the R a bad name when you see the typical type of owner.
Spend a little time reading their forums and it gets embarrassing. Even the longer standing owners have been saying the same.
Just been looking at golf Rs on eBay and came across this replica.. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=...
Ali_T said:
The R seems, to me, more like a GTI than the GTI is. A get from A to B quickly car that most people will feel safe in. But the engine was a big let down after the R32. I know it's faster, but where's the theatre and drama? Yes, yes, it's all down to EU emissions etc, but I really miss the days of the R32 and 147 GTA. Things were far more ridiculous, in a good way, back then.
I don't think it is down to emissions, these cars are more powerful than ever and produce less and less emissions. I think its because they want the cars to appeal to average joe, so they get toned down and neutered.
The last "proper" hot hatch (imho) was the Astra H VXR, big wallop of torque across the rev range, once you learn to ignore the badge zealots and do a few simple mods you can have good fun on b-roads in it. Orders of magnitude slower than the golf R but in my book, more fun any day of the week - its a bit brash and raw, but thats what a hot hatch should be imho.
Have a read of this and the associated thread. http://www.pistonheads.com/news/features/let-turbo...
Its a nice car but its just soo common, its now the easter holidays down in sunny devon and ive lost count of the amount of golf r's ive seen on the road today! Where as ive seen no s3's, just the one thats parked on my drive.... and i dont really like the look of the bmw m135i but id rather buy one over the golf as every tom dick and harry's got them! It seems to me everyones forgetting the audi s3, in my opinion it looks twice the car the golf does and the interior is on a different level with the pop up dash
tim milne said:
Regiment said:
It's a safe, boring car, which is what VW drivers demand. It's not crazy like a Focus RS, it's not exciting like an RS Megane and it will never knock your head, what it will do though, is go to the Asda twice a week and blend in with all the other safe, boring cars, it'll go on the school run and blend in with all of the other safe, boring cars, and when you want a little bit of safe, refined excitement, it'll accelerate you off the slip road as quick as a quick car should be but not too fast that you feel out of control and too excited. It's like the safe, boring woman that you can settle down with but will sometimes agree to be on top on your birthday rather than the Renault woman that's safe and boring but every other night will give you a safe word to use so you always feel comfortable that no matter how hard she whips you, you'll always have the safe word.
Totally agree with the above. I've had one for 5 months now, and every month I miss my RenaultSport Clio 200 more. For sure, it's fast and will do everything you might think you want it to do — as PH says, everything you'd want on the test drive — but it simply has no soul. It's an intellectual car — it's perfect as an idea, perfect on paper, but the reality of driving it leaves me cold. It's the kind of car made for people to boast about in the pub rather than enjoy out on real twisty roads. It can get up to a dizzying lick, but somehow makes going very fast seem unenjoyable.I guess it's the car for everyman. It will do EVERYTHING, but you just wish it had one, unique, defining attribute, some party trick, that it could pull off simply to entertain you. It feels like the product of computers and logic, not made by humans and intuition. I guess it's just a Golf.
8 months and 20k miles into my ownership with a pure white 3 door dsg, it cropped up on our company car scheme so is basically a fast work horse that goes out in all conditions. Firstly for those that find the drive to controlled or refined you are not pushing hard enough, I have had a few 4 wheel drifts and back end twitch moments that left me wishing I had worn my brown underpants that day.
Good points, will see most things away from the lights, roundabouts, twisty roads and will pull strongly on motorways. Bad points, not exciting enough to look at, windscreen already replaced due to the smallest tap in the world, brake pedal still clunky on release despite 2 days in VW for replacement, £860.00 per corner for a standard alloy (found out thanks to meeting a pot hole at 60mph).
In summary it keeps giving and I keep taking, the blistering performance balances out the low key looks, I am in a minority when it comes to VW owners as most probably buy for the Q car image but as an ex 3 door cossy owner of old I am not happy unless the spoiler is ironing board sized.
Good points, will see most things away from the lights, roundabouts, twisty roads and will pull strongly on motorways. Bad points, not exciting enough to look at, windscreen already replaced due to the smallest tap in the world, brake pedal still clunky on release despite 2 days in VW for replacement, £860.00 per corner for a standard alloy (found out thanks to meeting a pot hole at 60mph).
In summary it keeps giving and I keep taking, the blistering performance balances out the low key looks, I am in a minority when it comes to VW owners as most probably buy for the Q car image but as an ex 3 door cossy owner of old I am not happy unless the spoiler is ironing board sized.
n4aat said:
tim milne said:
Regiment said:
It's a safe, boring car, which is what VW drivers demand. It's not crazy like a Focus RS, it's not exciting like an RS Megane and it will never knock your head, what it will do though, is go to the Asda twice a week and blend in with all the other safe, boring cars, it'll go on the school run and blend in with all of the other safe, boring cars, and when you want a little bit of safe, refined excitement, it'll accelerate you off the slip road as quick as a quick car should be but not too fast that you feel out of control and too excited. It's like the safe, boring woman that you can settle down with but will sometimes agree to be on top on your birthday rather than the Renault woman that's safe and boring but every other night will give you a safe word to use so you always feel comfortable that no matter how hard she whips you, you'll always have the safe word.
Totally agree with the above. I've had one for 5 months now, and every month I miss my RenaultSport Clio 200 more. For sure, it's fast and will do everything you might think you want it to do — as PH says, everything you'd want on the test drive — but it simply has no soul. It's an intellectual car — it's perfect as an idea, perfect on paper, but the reality of driving it leaves me cold. It's the kind of car made for people to boast about in the pub rather than enjoy out on real twisty roads. It can get up to a dizzying lick, but somehow makes going very fast seem unenjoyable.I guess it's the car for everyman. It will do EVERYTHING, but you just wish it had one, unique, defining attribute, some party trick, that it could pull off simply to entertain you. It feels like the product of computers and logic, not made by humans and intuition. I guess it's just a Golf.
Selmer Mk6 said:
It does make me wonder when Golf R owners say the car is capable of all the day to day stuff. A Golf GTD can do all that too, it's just slower!
With all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
Edtion 30 MK5 Gti, Corrado VR6, E92 335i MSport, Evo 6 Tommi Mak, 968 club sportWith all the good lease deals that were available, I wonder if these owners were jumping from standard cars to R's and think wow. Whereas other see it as nothing special simply because they have driven high performance before.
Come on R owners what were your previous cars?
I wouldnt have paid £30k for it, but then it suits me fine for less than 300 a month with no other costs.. Its a Gti on steroids and thats a good thing
I WISH said:
So what did this article actually tell us about the Golf R then exactly ..... apart from how it's specced and what it costs?
Erm, like Matt said - that we've just had the car delivered with a spec sheet and will be prattling on about it for the next six months. Hold tight, you won't be left wanting.That said one commute in and I'm already keen to explore how you deactivate the sound thing and the 'lift the wiper' bodge sounds appealing. Is there a more detailed guide to this anywhere? Thanks in advance, etc...
Cheers,
Dan
Alucidnation said:
Its astonishing the amount of people here that have bought/leased these cars, and are then complaining about how dull it is and how cold it leaves them feeling.
Here's a clue, next time, try a test drive first.
That sounds like an outlandish approach to car buying/leasing Here's a clue, next time, try a test drive first.
. I think the hype got people queuing out the door for a product they didnt actually need.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff