Some Professional Cyclists don't follow traffic laws.

[anonymous-user]

xRIEx said:

Did you feel you must post that because you think I'm anti-cycling and you must defend cyclists, or because I'm anti-muppet and you feel you must defend muppets?

ETA: I bet on your drive home tonight you wear your seatbelt

Let's not bring muppets into this, I doubt if in this little PC world of ours we would be allowed to portray a couple of old folks as forgetful bigots and label a Swedish chef as a madman.

The issue is the OP was 'outraged', for what exactly, then tried to use this thin story as a vehicle (ho ho) for a dig at cyclists in general. That is what I am ridiculing

[masermartin]

Steven_RW said:

I'm always amazed that people can't get that everyone has varying appetite for Risk in varying scenarios.

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(This is in response to the "a ten second gap between last cyclist and train". Some people will still think that is nuts, because they have a lower appetite for Risk in that situation).

Of course, the cyclists all knew that they'd stopped a good 10 seconds early, didn't they?

[xRIEx]

yonex said:

xRIEx said:

Did you feel you must post that because you think I'm anti-cycling and you must defend cyclists, or because I'm anti-muppet and you feel you must defend muppets?

ETA: I bet on your drive home tonight you wear your seatbelt

Let's not bring muppets into this, I doubt if in this little PC world of ours we would be allowed to portray a couple of old folks as forgetful bigots and label a Swedish chef as a madman.

The issue is the OP was 'outraged', for what exactly, then tried to use this thin story as a vehicle (ho ho) for a dig at cyclists in general. That is what I am ridiculing

I agree about the outrage - I ridiculed it too in my first post.

[Diderot]

Roger Irrelevant said:

Hackney said:

BBC were particularly OTT in their reporting of it this morning.
They said Paris Roubaix "nearly ended in disaster", in the same way that anyone doing anything, anywhere nearly ends in disaster.

Yeah I thought the BBC reporting was pretty sensationalist. In the same manner on my drive to work this morning I came close to DISASTER on DOZENS of occasions as I passed within A MATTER OF FEET of oncoming cars with a closing speed of over ONE HUNDRED MILES PER HOUR. If I'd been ONE METRE to the right it would have meant CERTAIN DEATH.

(though having said that the riders should get the book thrown at them by the UCI and the French plod).

Certainly odd reporting by the BEEB. They mentioned seven riders crossing when the barriers were down - there were a lot more than that judging by the video. But then, they went on to suggest it was a near miss and nearly ended in disaster in typical sensationalist fashion. Yes those cyclists were stupid and reckless, and yes the organisers could have managed the situation better, but difficult to construe that as a near miss.

[civicduty]

yonex said:

xRIEx said:

Did you feel you must post that because you think I'm anti-cycling and you must defend cyclists, or because I'm anti-muppet and you feel you must defend muppets?

ETA: I bet on your drive home tonight you wear your seatbelt

Let's not bring muppets into this, I doubt if in this little PC world of ours we would be allowed to portray a couple of old folks as forgetful bigots and label a Swedish chef as a madman.

The issue is the OP was 'outraged', for what exactly, then tried to use this thin story as a vehicle (ho ho) for a dig at cyclists in general. That is what I am ridiculing

At no point did I say I was 'outraged' don't put words in my mouth or text on a screen. I am a cyclist, purely as a vehicle (ho ho), to aid fitness.

I merely highlighted this news story in the General Gassing portion of a Motoring Forum to highlight the failings in some cycling Role Models.

[anonymous-user]

civicduty said:

At no point did I say I was 'outraged' don't put words in my mouth or text on a screen. I am a cyclist, purely as a vehicle (ho ho), to aid fitness.

I merely highlighted this news story in the General Gassing portion of a Motoring Forum to highlight the failings in some cycling Role Models.

Then you kind of shot yourself in the foot.

Good luck with the fitness, watch out for level crossings.

[mpkayeuk]

masermartin said:

Of course, the cyclists all knew that they'd stopped a good 10 seconds early, didn't they?

Yes, because they have eyes!

[civicduty]

yonex said:

Then you kind of shot yourself in the foot.

Good luck with the fitness, watch out for level crossings.

Nah I prefer bridges, network rail are even making them higher around my way.

[g7jhp]

G321 said:

I bet they don't even pay road tax....

They do it comes out of general tax. You pay Vehicle Exercise Duty (VED) on your car!

[anonymous-user]

civicduty said:

yonex said:

xRIEx said:

Did you feel you must post that because you think I'm anti-cycling and you must defend cyclists, or because I'm anti-muppet and you feel you must defend muppets?

ETA: I bet on your drive home tonight you wear your seatbelt

Let's not bring muppets into this, I doubt if in this little PC world of ours we would be allowed to portray a couple of old folks as forgetful bigots and label a Swedish chef as a madman.

The issue is the OP was 'outraged', for what exactly, then tried to use this thin story as a vehicle (ho ho) for a dig at cyclists in general. That is what I am ridiculing

At no point did I say I was 'outraged' don't put words in my mouth or text on a screen. I am a cyclist, purely as a vehicle (ho ho), to aid fitness.

I merely highlighted this news story in the General Gassing portion of a Motoring Forum to highlight the failings in some cycling Role Models.

Then as the self appointed "Pistonheads Role Model Standards Monitor", I suggest you steer clear of all professional sports because you will use this motoring forum to highlight footballers cheating, rugby players fighting, athletes doping etc etc

[anonymous-user]

xRIEx said:

yonex said:

xRIEx said:

Did you feel you must post that because you think I'm anti-cycling and you must defend cyclists, or because I'm anti-muppet and you feel you must defend muppets?

ETA: I bet on your drive home tonight you wear your seatbelt

Let's not bring muppets into this, I doubt if in this little PC world of ours we would be allowed to portray a couple of old folks as forgetful bigots and label a Swedish chef as a madman.

The issue is the OP was 'outraged', for what exactly, then tried to use this thin story as a vehicle (ho ho) for a dig at cyclists in general. That is what I am ridiculing

I agree about the outrage - I ridiculed it too in my first post.

Bumders.

[Studio117]

Cringe

[anonymous-user]

civicduty said:

Nah I prefer bridges, network rail are even making them higher around my way.

It still doesn't make sense why you would quote that story as you did, especially as you claim to be a cyclist? Are you including yourself in the masses that don't follow traffic laws?

[G321]

g7jhp said:

G321 said:

I bet they don't even pay road tax....

They do it comes out of general tax. You pay Vehicle Exercise Duty (VED) on your car!

I KNOW!! It was a joke. I should have put a smiley face on the post....

[irocfan]

what fktards, d/q and prosecute those who went through the barrier

[thelawnet]

balls-out said:

"It's the most beautiful race in the world and we get bothered by a train," said French champion Arnaud Demare.


So French!

He has a point though, it is the greatest single-day cycling race and you would expect them to plan a little better. I don't know if they could have delayed the train for them to cross.

[Steven_RW]

masermartin said:

Of course, the cyclists all knew that they'd stopped a good 10 seconds early, didn't they?

Only they (the cyclists who did actually stop..) would know what level of visibility they had to make the decision and based on that set of circumstances and information they took a choice based on their risk appetite.

It all seems quite simple really. Your statement is not really that relevant.

SRW

[karma mechanic]

'Race organisers have said the riders could not stop in time.'

I wonder if that includes the ones pushing their way round the policeman who was trying to stop them crossing... I suspect failing to follow the direction of a police officer is some sort of offence. Even in France.

[civicduty]

yonex said:

It still doesn't make sense why you would quote that story as you did, especially as you claim to be a cyclist? Are you including yourself in the masses that don't follow traffic laws?

I don't know is this your masses and or my masses? Why are we talking about masses anyway?

My thread title was to indicate that people who are being filmed and make a living from cycling still break the law much the same as amateur cyclists I see whilst driving and cycling that break the law. Whereas I feel those who are at the pinnacle of their sport, who people might look to as role models shouldn't set a bad example.

civicduty said:

Even the Pros think they are above the law, could have been nasty.

Paris-Roubaix in train near-miss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/32278898

Only the first sentence is mine the second came with the hyperlink. In the first sentence I feel I repeated portion of the title which was a statement and then an opinion, because it could have been nasty.

People normally complain when someone puts a link up with no corresponding statement or opinion so that is why one is there.

If I come upon a news story of Formula 1 drivers racing down a road and then going round a level crossing barrier I would probably post that as well with the same sort of title with the same sort of sentiment in the OP.

Don't why some cyclists get touchy about this. They are bad cyclists that go through Red lights, go through level crossings and break other traffic laws. This was just a post to highlight these guys didn't do cycling any favours.

When a group of professional racing drivers do something similar I will happily back up my idea that they should be role models to other drivers and that other drivers do indeed break the same traffic laws as cyclists do and that to, is a stupid thing to do.

Not quite sure how so much was inferred from the initial 20 words I posted up.

[xRIEx]

civicduty said:

Don't why some cyclists get touchy about this. They are bad cyclists that go through Red lights, go through level crossings and break other traffic laws. This was just a post to highlight these guys didn't do cycling any favours.

Because the language you used implies all professional cyclists don't follow traffic laws, whereas as the truth is some professional cyclists don't follow traffic laws.

That latter statement, the correct one, can be leveled (no pun intended) at every demographic, with the possible exception of 'people who don't break the law'.