Some Professional Cyclists don't follow traffic laws.

Some Professional Cyclists don't follow traffic laws.

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civicduty

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1,857 posts

203 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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Even some Pros think they are above the law, could have been nasty.

Paris-Roubaix in train near-miss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/32278898

Edited to change the word 'the' into the word 'some' highlighted in bold.

Edited by civicduty on Monday 13th April 16:48

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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I don't think it was because they were cyclists, it was because they were racers. The blinkered focus on not wanting to be left behind overcame common sense. Comparing this to ordinary cyclists you encounter on the road day to day is a bit like comparing Lewis Hamilton doing a dodgy overtake during the Monaco Grand Prix to a sales rep in a diesel Audi A4 doing a dodgy overtake on a UK A road. They aren't really the same in situation and mindset. It was still pretty stupid though, I wonder if anyone who organised the route thought about the crossing barriers coming down on cyclists like that.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Not all professional drivers follow traffic laws.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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civicduty said:
Even the Pros think they are above the law, could have been nasty.

Paris-Roubaix in train near-miss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/32278898
That's right. All pros and all cyclists have the same feelings. How insightful of you.

BGarside

1,564 posts

137 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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xRIEx said:
Not all professional drivers follow traffic laws.
And neither do unprofessional ones...

What sort of clown routes a bike race through a level crossing?

BGarside

1,564 posts

137 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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civicduty said:
Even the Pros think they are above the law, could have been nasty.

Paris-Roubaix in train near-miss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/32278898
'Above the law'? Perhaps it has something to do with it being a RACE, therefore the idea is not to stop! The organisers are at fault for running the race over a level crossing.

Perhaps I can draw your attention to the numerous drivers who don't bother stopping for closing level crossing gates, or pedestrian crossings for that matter, and they're not even racing. Go on, have a look on Youtube.

But don't let that get in the way of having a little dig at cyclists in general.





ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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BGarside said:
xRIEx said:
Not all professional drivers follow traffic laws.
And neither do unprofessional ones...

What sort of clown routes a bike race through a level crossing?
The P-R route crosses that railway 5 times in a relatively short distance and deliberately use backroads/farm tracks (it's part of the heritage of the race) so will hit level crossings rather than bridges. The race is planned to start at a time to avoid the trains, unfortunately a strong tailwind meant the riders did the first hour at 50kph which meant they were early at the crossing, despite the organisers delaying the start to mitigate that.

The race was then neutralised to allow those who did stop to catch up to the group they were in. French railways are looking to prosecute those who jumped the barriers.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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BGarside said:
xRIEx said:
Not all professional drivers follow traffic laws.
And neither do unprofessional ones...
Precisely my point.

balls-out

3,610 posts

231 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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"It's the most beautiful race in the world and we get bothered by a train," said French champion Arnaud Demare.


So French!

civicduty

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1,857 posts

203 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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BGarside said:
civicduty said:
Even the Pros think they are above the law, could have been nasty.

Paris-Roubaix in train near-miss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/32278898
'Above the law'? Perhaps it has something to do with it being a RACE, therefore the idea is not to stop! The organisers are at fault for running the race over a level crossing.

Perhaps I can draw your attention to the numerous drivers who don't bother stopping for closing level crossing gates, or pedestrian crossings for that matter, and they're not even racing. Go on, have a look on Youtube.

But don't let that get in the way of having a little dig at cyclists in general.
Yeah it's all the organisers fault, no wait, actually it's the bad example set by all the nasty drivers and pedestrians, because these so called professionals have no mind of their own so need to follow everyone else's bad behaviour.

Get real, these bikes have brakes and the riders have eyes. If the barrier is down the a train is probably coming, make a grown up decision and wait for the danger to pass, unless they are too stupid.


Edited by civicduty on Monday 13th April 11:20

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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BGarside said:
'Above the law'? Perhaps it has something to do with it being a RACE, therefore the idea is not to stop!
I would never wish death on anyone, but the cynical part of me thinks if a few riders had been hit it might have put 'RACE' into the perspective of 'NOT BEING ALIVE ANY MORE'.

civicduty

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Monday 13th April 2015
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ewenm said:
French railways are looking to prosecute those who jumped the barriers.
Good.

tfin

366 posts

122 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Crossing a level crossing is forbidden under race rules:

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/58723156141165363...

civicduty

Original Poster:

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203 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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tfin said:
Crossing a level crossing is forbidden under race rules:

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/58723156141165363...
And the French version of the Road Traffic Act I imagine.

kambites

67,575 posts

221 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Nor to professional drivers, in my experience. Taxi drivers tend to be appalling.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Have we finished generalizing, great...can we move onto the fashionable PH hatred of all things cycling?

It's been at least....a day, since the last thread rolleyes

rsox87

151 posts

154 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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civicduty said:
And the French version of the Road Traffic Act I imagine.
Le Road Traffic Act?

annsxman

295 posts

242 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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BGarside said:
And neither do unprofessional ones...

What sort of clown routes a bike race through a level crossing?
Paris - Roubaix has been following this route for years and this is not the first time that the barriers have come down in front of the peloton. They time the start to avoid the train but this year as in 2006 a strong tailwind got them through the Arenberg section ahead of schedule.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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It would be quite a good thing for the organisers to DQ every rider that crossed through the barriers. As it is, this is a terrible terrible example to set.

g7jhp

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238 months