One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
Discussion
Liquid Knight said:
That painted traffic island in the middle of the road with solid white lines is a Motorcycle lane. I thought everyone knew that. 
Never actually seen a motorcyclist in one with solid lines. I'm sure it happens, but never seen it.See them in dashed line hatchings all the time which is fine and sensible even. Keep them out in visible areas, not invisible inside a sea of traffic
ShaunTheSheep said:
ManOpener said:
ShaunTheSheep said:
Why should you not facilitate his progress IF it means no delay, no impact to yourself.
Nobody is suggesting that you shouldn't.ManOpener said:
I'll change my trajectory or road position if I have to, based on the circumstances.
And thought I didn't say it explicitly in my first post, it was implied pretty strongly:ManOpener said:
if I have to change my road position because another road user
Nice job, totally missing my point across about six different posts in two days. 
ShaunTheSheep said:
silentbrown said:
... Why is this acceptable for bikes?
I think the original reasoning was to reduce traffic congestion. Strip whatever traffic you can out of queues, provided they don't then hold up other traffic.I think the more modern interpretation is about safety. There are higher motorcyclist deaths per mile ridden in countries which require the bike is driven as you would a full size vehicle (I can't remember the exact wording in Texas).
silentbrown said:
I can see the advantages for bikers - but is there any legal or cultural basis? I suspect it's not illegal for a car to do the same as that rider in many circumstances - just wildly inconsiderate!
I agree, if the car can fit it would be legal in the same circumstances but it only happens rarely. I've managed it on the roads between stirling and alloa, you can overtake on the wide roads without going over the centre line, that feels like filtering when you pass 6 or 7 like that and there's cars coming the other way.Hatched areas are another place you can overtake in the car that many don't realise. Edit: of course noone can use hatched areas bounded by a solid line but I'm not talking about those.
Need to be careful right enough, could be surprising for others and that can end badly!
The big advantage a lot of people forget is there's less traffic queued up in front of you so everyone gets home sooner.
Mutually beneficial but the biker gets a bigger benefit. Cars get home maybe a couple of light changes quicker. When I commute on the bike, the difference between busy and quiet times for that journey is around 5 mins on a 30 mile mixed road journey. In the car its 25mins+ difference between busy and quiet roads. You just skip every queue which is helluva nice.
Those three wide painted island roads are mostly arterial routes with enough space for the emergency services to get through if needs be. I have seen an Ambulance stuck behind a "filtering" biker because the vehicles were top and tailing and there was nowhere for him/her/other to go. I assume he/she/other was new I would have opened up to get to a gap as soon as possible.
Liquid Knight said:
I have seen an Ambulance stuck behind a "filtering" biker because the vehicles were top and tailing and there was nowhere for him/her/other to go.
There was a bike and it got caught by a following ambo and couldn't dissapear into the sunset despite there being enough room for the ambo to do that if it could just get past the bike?Bike was a knob in that case. I've never seen that. Usually the opposite - the sirens fade away behind.
ShaunTheSheep said:
Liquid Knight said:
I have seen an Ambulance stuck behind a "filtering" biker because the vehicles were top and tailing and there was nowhere for him/her/other to go.
There was a bike and it got caught by a following ambo and couldn't dissapear into the sunset despite there being enough room for the ambo to do that if it could just get past the bike?Bike was a knob in that case. I've never seen that. Usually the opposite - the sirens fade away behind.
ShaunTheSheep said:
kowalski655 said:
If someone DIDNT move over,and a head on occurred,who would be at fault?
M/C rider for overtaking when he didnt have enough room?
100% mc rider, he's on the wrong side of the road and has no priority.M/C rider for overtaking when he didnt have enough room?
ked. At the very least it would be 50/50. Depends whether they had the warning and the ability to avoid though.Maniac in a new MG6 on the A82 at Loch Lomond today, decided to slow down and do a U turn,right in front of a line of oncoming traffic approaching at 50+ mph! And me at the front of the queue, had to slam on the brakes,came to a full stop as his arse was hanging out of the layby he had turned into, he got a loud blast of the horn and a LOT of questioning of his parentage
So I've decided the "Knob of the day" award goes to this thunder ! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!
Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your st box Vauxhall Agila 
! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your s
t box Vauxhall Agila 2 from me today:
The tool in the Range Rover this evening who was happy to do 50 in a 60 dual carriageway and brake check people whilst carrying 2 young children in his car.
RR was just coming up to another car and then he decides to brake check me - I wasn't even that close, but admittedly the gap was closing as I mis-judged his speed to be faster than it was. I moved into Lane 1 just after he broke as there was a space and I didn't want to be behind the RR anymore. The car in front of me was doing 60 and by now so there was now a gap between him and the RR. RR man decides to accelerate into the gap he just caused by braking, block me from moving back into Lane 2 to take the roundabout exit I needed in 1/2 mile time and slowing the rest of the traffic behind him in Lane 2. Just to 'teach me a lesson' I guess.... Luckily there was no traffic going the way I was 'forced' to go so I got him quicker than expected.
He also had a crap plate.
The second was the Honda CRV driver who was weaving in and out of traffic on the M25 this evening when there was 0 space to go anywhere. He was moving into non-existant gaps and forcing his way between lanes. I was watching it unfold, just amazed that someone could have so little spacial awareness or the attitude of forcing their way through traffic.
The tool in the Range Rover this evening who was happy to do 50 in a 60 dual carriageway and brake check people whilst carrying 2 young children in his car.
RR was just coming up to another car and then he decides to brake check me - I wasn't even that close, but admittedly the gap was closing as I mis-judged his speed to be faster than it was. I moved into Lane 1 just after he broke as there was a space and I didn't want to be behind the RR anymore. The car in front of me was doing 60 and by now so there was now a gap between him and the RR. RR man decides to accelerate into the gap he just caused by braking, block me from moving back into Lane 2 to take the roundabout exit I needed in 1/2 mile time and slowing the rest of the traffic behind him in Lane 2. Just to 'teach me a lesson' I guess.... Luckily there was no traffic going the way I was 'forced' to go so I got him quicker than expected.
He also had a crap plate.
The second was the Honda CRV driver who was weaving in and out of traffic on the M25 this evening when there was 0 space to go anywhere. He was moving into non-existant gaps and forcing his way between lanes. I was watching it unfold, just amazed that someone could have so little spacial awareness or the attitude of forcing their way through traffic.
Edited by ashleyman on Thursday 28th July 22:04
JordanTurbo said:
So I've decided the "Knob of the day" award goes to this thunder ! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!
Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your st box Vauxhall Agila
I am willing to bet money that when said retard comes back to their car their response will be summed up as somehow being someone else's fault! It's never them!! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your s
t box Vauxhall Agila Mike_Mac said:
JordanTurbo said:
So I've decided the "Knob of the day" award goes to this thunder ! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!
Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your st box Vauxhall Agila
I am willing to bet money that when said retard comes back to their car their response will be summed up as somehow being someone else's fault! It's never them!! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your s
t box Vauxhall Agila And the road will have a patch, an unnecessary joint which will be the most likely place for a failure (pothole) to occur in the future. Road workers wont'/can't move a car that's legally parked, which it is - it's bloody stupid, but it's legal.
Cracking photo though.
Janesy B said:
They should have just tipped it on to it's side onto the pavement and continued the resurfacing. That is weapons grade stupidity.
Thermobaric said:
Don't they normally just move the car in those situations? You hear about people getting parking tickets after their car has been moved to a permit street e.t.c.
My wife said the workmen had been talking about moving it, but decided they couldn't amd had no choice but to tarmac around it.Apparently the foreman was furious with it. He was going door to door to get the owner, but couldn't find them.
It's a shame I was at work at the time (my wife sent me the first picture and I took the other two when I got home) or I'd have offered to do it for them with my Land Rover.
Mike_Mac said:
I am willing to bet money that when said retard comes back to their car their response will be summed up as somehow being someone else's fault! It's never them!
The car was sheepishly moved over night. It was still there at 11pm when I went to bed, but gone at 7am this morning when I looked out. Then I spotted it parked up elsewhere as I drove out on my way to work.
OpulentBob said:
.....And the road will have a patch, an unnecessary joint which will be the most likely place for a failure (pothole) to occur in the future.
I was talking about this with the wife yesterday. It almost annoys me more than the knob themselves and I know it will grate on me in future when I go out there and see it.One of the few times in recent years when I've seen the council resurface a road properly, instead of lots of patches or the gash surface dressing gravel, and someone has to f
k it up! JordanTurbo said:
I was talking about this with the wife yesterday. It almost annoys me more than the knob themselves and I know it will grate on me in future when I go out there and see it.
One of the few times in recent years when I've seen the council resurface a road properly, instead of lots of patches or the gash surface dressing gravel, and someone has to fk it up!
I trust someone (you, the workmen, another sane person) left a note on the spacktard's windscreen pointing out just what a dribbling cretin they were?One of the few times in recent years when I've seen the council resurface a road properly, instead of lots of patches or the gash surface dressing gravel, and someone has to f
k it up! ETA: this is also surely the winning entry for the bad parking thread?
OpulentBob said:
Mike_Mac said:
JordanTurbo said:
So I've decided the "Knob of the day" award goes to this thunder ! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!
Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your st box Vauxhall Agila
I am willing to bet money that when said retard comes back to their car their response will be summed up as somehow being someone else's fault! It's never them!! Who came home WHILE the road on our estate was being resurfaced, parked their car and left it there!Yes, you read that right. They didn't forget today was road works day (we've had several reminders over the last 3 weeks) and fail to move the car, as you might think.... They actually thought it was a good idea to park in a street which was also occupied by two tarmac lorries, two transit vans, a road laying machine, a steam roller and numerous workmen in high viz!
Well done retard. Now the crew has to come back and block the estate again another day, to surface the little section under your s
t box Vauxhall Agila And the road will have a patch, an unnecessary joint which will be the most likely place for a failure (pothole) to occur in the future. Road workers wont'/can't move a car that's legally parked, which it is - it's bloody stupid, but it's legal.
Cracking photo though.
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