One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

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Hol

8,408 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Blanchimont said:
carlove said:
Blanchimont said:
Not bad driving as such, just bad manners.

Slow moving traffic, so I let said knob out from the side turn, who happens to be in an A4 All-Road. Did I get a thanks? Did I fk; just a dirty look.

People like that really boil my piss. Does he think, that it's his right to be let out? Well sorry chuck, it's not. So be a little more fking thankful next time you miserable old cock.
I let a Prius driving man with a beard out this afternoon in rush hour, he just gave me a dirty look, no idea why, but wish I hadn't bothered, he was also the only car in the rain without lights on.
He had a beard?! The absolute... oh hang on.

I had another 2 this morning, The air in my car was tinted blue for a bit. fking wking fks!
Its too common nowadays.

Manners cost nothing....

Yet, some of the people you meet are still too tight to use them.








Edited by Hol on Thursday 8th October 10:24

masermartin

1,629 posts

177 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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sim72 said:
OpulentBob said:
There's a good reason they're not crossroads - it'll (almost certainly) be down to majority flows. There would have been counts done, and the majority would get the priority. Just because YOU don't use the priority directions doesn't mean it's wrong.

The junctions, especially the one at Rugby, would have been there long before anyone you could blame nowadays were even born.

4 arm mini roundabouts are very much frowned upon in the industry, they cause more congestion than they save. There's plenty enough guidance out there. If there is an issue they can put signals in, but then they get accused of tampering, wasting money etc. Can't win, can they?
Oh, I'm not grumbling about my journey; indeed, in the morning (going South -> North) the existing layout actually helps me. However, in the rush-hours, when the majority of traffic is coming from the West, that road can build up a serious backlog. My main issue, as mentioned in the original post, is that it's a magnet for accidents from bad driving because of its non-standard layout.

You're right about the age of the junction being why it's designed like that, though; all four arms have existed for centuries, but the West arm, like the North arm still is, would previously have been a minor road to a village some way away. Now, it's the route not only to three massive housing estates (two pretty new), but also the rat-run through to the A426 and the M6. I'm guessing a traffic flow count these days would give massively different results to one from even 20 years ago.
I appreciate that the junctions have existed for a while, and I'm not in a position to comment on the Rugby one as to whether a roundabout would be appropriate, but certainly in Newbury there would be some very simple and cheap changes that could solve the confusion. As it stands, going West->East in the Newbury one and South->North in the rugby one, how does one signal to the person waiting wanting to turn either from the road you're heading into, or the road counterclockwise from it, where you're going? It's impossible.

I'm all for tampering with things when they are obviously wrong. I'm less for tampering when there's no obvious benefit, of course.

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

122 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Hol said:
Blanchimont said:
carlove said:
Blanchimont said:
Not bad driving as such, just bad manners.

Slow moving traffic, so I let said knob out from the side turn, who happens to be in an A4 All-Road. Did I get a thanks? Did I fk; just a dirty look.

People like that really boil my piss. Does he think, that it's his right to be let out? Well sorry chuck, it's not. So be a little more fking thankful next time you miserable old cock.
I let a Prius driving man with a beard out this afternoon in rush hour, he just gave me a dirty look, no idea why, but wish I hadn't bothered, he was also the only car in the rain without lights on.
He had a beard?! The absolute... oh hang on.

I had another 2 this morning, The air in my car was tinted blue for a bit. fking wking fks!
Its too common nowadays.

Manners cost nothing....

Yet, some of the people you meet are still too tight to use them.








Edited by Hol on Thursday 8th October 10:24
It could be down to the fact I don't drive a posh car, so they see me as inferior and not worthy of acknowledgement? I don't know, nor really care but it bugs me.

I say thanks, all what worries me.

alpha channel

1,386 posts

162 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Aye, bad manners are pet peev with me as well. As is target fixation, this morning overtaking a HGV and I've a new-ish Yaris super-glued to my bum. Fair enough, my rate of acceleration isn't probably fast enough for her I drop a cog and floor it hitting a speed that can't be called slow which left the Yaris trailing.

This is where the target fixation comes into it though, they've rocked up behind an old Rover, ergo old Rover = slow and after I've pulled into lane 1 they're trying to keep up and maintain position in lane 2 and getting no closer, still seemingly hell bent on getting past regardless.

The speed involved, at this point, would mean I get in to work far too early for my liking plus there's a road that nearly always has traffic joining the dual carriage that I'm on (who treat the give way exit as a slip road and expect to be let on to the dual carriage that I'm on, occasional knobish behaviour as some plonker immediately dives for lane 2) so rather than having to get to explicitly illegal speeds and pulling in front of her if cars are wanting to join I back off and watch her disappear into the distance.

All a tad pointless though as at the A19 Wolviston interchange I pass the same car stood still in the line of traffic wanting to join the A19.

Issi

1,782 posts

150 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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The young lady this morning who came straight out onto a roundabout in front of me, without even glancing to her right.

I gave a little beep which caused her to go ballistic, brake checking me, screaming at me in her mirror and then 'giving me the finger'

How rude!

WD39

20,083 posts

116 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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All that jazz said:
carlove said:
Flibble said:
Mine today was a supermarket (I think) artic that couldn't be bothered to slow down for a roundabout so just blasted through it, while I was turning right on said roundabout. Had to brake to avoid a collision. A bit annoying when they know they're going to come off much better in any incident so just don't give a st.
I slow down now when I see one approaching a roundabout as it seems to happen every time.

There was one not long ago who did just this I braked as I saw he wasn't stopping, he did stop but half way into my path, I had also come to a stop, as I went by I shook my head at him(nothing else, maybe a 'wtf' gesture actually, can't quite remember) and he started flashing his lights and honking his horn, I did lose my temper and beeped back at him and gave him the coffee beans and many other gestures, he keeps flashing and honking, then at a traffic light stopped inches behind, I think on purpose. I thought about reporting him, was a lorry delivering for a well known shop but probably would have gone nowhere.
If I hadn't seen him coming and stopped early I would very likely have hit him, which would have probably been quite a serious collision.
Let me guess? You didn't bother to indicate? If that's the case then I'm with the trucker as I don't bother stopping at roundabouts either; if a vehicle is coming from the opposite direction without any indication then as far as I'm concerned they're going straight across to where I've come from. If you can't be arsed indicating then I can't be arsed stopping and you can enjoy a close-up of the side of my trailer.
I find it reasurring that in this ever changing world in which we live in, there are still considerate and careful drivers out there.

jogger1976

1,251 posts

126 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Blanchimont said:
Hol said:
Blanchimont said:
carlove said:
Blanchimont said:
Not bad driving as such, just bad manners.

Slow moving traffic, so I let said knob out from the side turn, who happens to be in an A4 All-Road. Did I get a thanks? Did I fk; just a dirty look.

People like that really boil my piss. Does he think, that it's his right to be let out? Well sorry chuck, it's not. So be a little more fking thankful next time you miserable old cock.
I let a Prius driving man with a beard out this afternoon in rush hour, he just gave me a dirty look, no idea why, but wish I hadn't bothered, he was also the only car in the rain without lights on.
He had a beard?! The absolute... oh hang on.

I had another 2 this morning, The air in my car was tinted blue for a bit. fking wking fks!
Its too common nowadays.

Manners cost nothing....

Yet, some of the people you meet are still too tight to use them.








Edited by Hol on Thursday 8th October 10:24
It could be down to the fact I don't drive a posh car, so they see me as inferior and not worthy of acknowledgement? I don't know, nor really care but it bugs me.

I say thanks, all what worries me.
To be honest, I think what we see on the roads is just a microcosm of wider society. Call me a miserable old cynic, but I think people are becoming ruder, more intolerant, self-entitled and selfish. Worst thing is, I think it applies to all social classes, genders, races. etc, which is quite worrying. frown

Case in point this evening. I was quite happily driving up the A1 northbound.

Heading past Sandy there is a 50mph limit with Gatso's, so most people take it easy. Apart from the wker in the 3 Series who was suddenly bearing down on me at an alarming rate. I initially didn't notice him because only one of his fking lights was working, and that was about a bright as a candle!

After tailgating me for a bit he cut up a Golf then booted it uo the road, before slamming on the anchors so hard for the Gatso that he nearly lost it and hit the car he was passing.

He then booted it again through the NSL section tailgating and undertaking cars before a last minute swerve in to a petrol station cutting up the car in lane 1, which narrowly avoided rear ending him

As I drove past I noticed he was on his phone.



Edited by jogger1976 on Thursday 8th October 21:40

sim72

4,945 posts

134 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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masermartin said:
sim72 said:
OpulentBob said:
There's a good reason they're not crossroads - it'll (almost certainly) be down to majority flows. There would have been counts done, and the majority would get the priority. Just because YOU don't use the priority directions doesn't mean it's wrong.

The junctions, especially the one at Rugby, would have been there long before anyone you could blame nowadays were even born.

4 arm mini roundabouts are very much frowned upon in the industry, they cause more congestion than they save. There's plenty enough guidance out there. If there is an issue they can put signals in, but then they get accused of tampering, wasting money etc. Can't win, can they?
Oh, I'm not grumbling about my journey; indeed, in the morning (going South -> North) the existing layout actually helps me. However, in the rush-hours, when the majority of traffic is coming from the West, that road can build up a serious backlog. My main issue, as mentioned in the original post, is that it's a magnet for accidents from bad driving because of its non-standard layout.

You're right about the age of the junction being why it's designed like that, though; all four arms have existed for centuries, but the West arm, like the North arm still is, would previously have been a minor road to a village some way away. Now, it's the route not only to three massive housing estates (two pretty new), but also the rat-run through to the A426 and the M6. I'm guessing a traffic flow count these days would give massively different results to one from even 20 years ago.
I appreciate that the junctions have existed for a while, and I'm not in a position to comment on the Rugby one as to whether a roundabout would be appropriate, but certainly in Newbury there would be some very simple and cheap changes that could solve the confusion. As it stands, going West->East in the Newbury one and South->North in the rugby one, how does one signal to the person waiting wanting to turn either from the road you're heading into, or the road counterclockwise from it, where you're going? It's impossible.

I'm all for tampering with things when they are obviously wrong. I'm less for tampering when there's no obvious benefit, of course.
The issue with the Rugby one is that when people are going South->North, they're effectively turning left (because straight on is East), and so some of them indicate. The problem is that there are 2 left turns (West and North, right next to each other), and so people going West->North or West-East assume the indication is for West and pull out ... crunch. Equally, people from the East who are going North need to indicate right, and then pull across West->East people who are assuming the indication is that they are going West ... crunch.

When I go South->North in the mornings I don't indicate, and then go "straight on", but no-one can mistake the fact that I'm going to conflict with them. As I said, the junction is quite straightforward ... for people who understand it.


Edited by sim72 on Friday 9th October 01:27

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

122 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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jogger1976 said:
Blanchimont said:
Hol said:
Blanchimont said:
carlove said:
Blanchimont said:
Not bad driving as such, just bad manners.

Slow moving traffic, so I let said knob out from the side turn, who happens to be in an A4 All-Road. Did I get a thanks? Did I fk; just a dirty look.

People like that really boil my piss. Does he think, that it's his right to be let out? Well sorry chuck, it's not. So be a little more fking thankful next time you miserable old cock.
I let a Prius driving man with a beard out this afternoon in rush hour, he just gave me a dirty look, no idea why, but wish I hadn't bothered, he was also the only car in the rain without lights on.
He had a beard?! The absolute... oh hang on.

I had another 2 this morning, The air in my car was tinted blue for a bit. fking wking fks!
Its too common nowadays.

Manners cost nothing....

Yet, some of the people you meet are still too tight to use them.








Edited by Hol on Thursday 8th October 10:24
It could be down to the fact I don't drive a posh car, so they see me as inferior and not worthy of acknowledgement? I don't know, nor really care but it bugs me.

I say thanks, all what worries me.
To be honest, I think what we see on the roads is just a microcosm of wider society. Call me a miserable old cynic, but I think people are becoming ruder, more intolerant, self-entitled and selfish. Worst thing is, I think it applies to all social classes, genders, races. etc, which is quite worrying. frown

Case in point this evening. I was quite happily driving up the A1 northbound.

Heading past Sandy there is a 50mph limit with Gatso's, so most people take it easy. Apart from the wker in the 3 Series who was suddenly bearing down on me at an alarming rate. I initially didn't notice him because only one of his fking lights was working, and that was about a bright as a candle!

After tailgating me for a bit he cut up a Golf then booted it uo the road, before slamming on the anchors so hard for the Gatso that he nearly lost it and hit the car he was passing.

He then booted it again through the NSL section tailgating and undertaking cars before a last minute swerve in to a petrol station cutting up the car in lane 1, which narrowly avoided rear ending him

As I drove past I noticed he was on his phone.



Edited by jogger1976 on Thursday 8th October 21:40
It's a sign of the times, if out in the street, where acting like a knob to that degree would probably end up with a smack in the chops, every..well, most people are civilised. I admit, you get the odd wker who pushes through regardless, but a large proportion of people say excuse me and thanks if you hold a door open for them. You put them in a car, and let them out of a side turn, they suddenly act as if it's their right of way, and anybody driving around them must yield to their superiority.

Out and about though, if I hold the door open for someone and get nothing, or they close the door in my face, I clearly say "Yeah, thanks for closing the door/holding it open"
It rubs me up the wrong way, something rotton.

Hol

8,408 posts

200 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Blanchimont said:
It's a sign of the times, if out in the street, where acting like a knob to that degree would probably end up with a smack in the chops, every..well, most people are civilised. I admit, you get the odd wker who pushes through regardless, but a large proportion of people say excuse me and thanks if you hold a door open for them. You put them in a car, and let them out of a side turn, they suddenly act as if it's their right of way, and anybody driving around them must yield to their superiority.

Out and about though, if I hold the door open for someone and get nothing, or they close the door in my face, I clearly say "Yeah, thanks for closing the door/holding it open"
It rubs me up the wrong way, something rotton.
I think you summarised it very well there.

Face to face, almost all people are polite and tolerant of others, because it is literally up close and personal. Being a knob will therefore set you aside and often open to a punch in the face. (just like in the playground at school).

When in a protected mobile box, the truly selfish will have weighed the odd of being polite against their ability to leave long before they are held accountable.

Sometimes it does go wrong for them though.

selfishknob on facepalm said:
[I]I don't know why he got angry and punched me in the face when I kicked his car, all I did was cut across a few lanes without indicating, put his entire family at risk and give him the finger for beeping me.

I act like that all the time and nothing has ever happened like this to me before, so HE must be in the wrong as nobody has got upset before[/I]

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Blanchimont said:
jogger1976 said:
Blanchimont said:
Hol said:
Blanchimont said:
carlove said:
Blanchimont said:
Not bad driving as such, just bad manners.

Slow moving traffic, so I let said knob out from the side turn, who happens to be in an A4 All-Road. Did I get a thanks? Did I fk; just a dirty look.

People like that really boil my piss. Does he think, that it's his right to be let out? Well sorry chuck, it's not. So be a little more fking thankful next time you miserable old cock.
I let a Prius driving man with a beard out this afternoon in rush hour, he just gave me a dirty look, no idea why, but wish I hadn't bothered, he was also the only car in the rain without lights on.
He had a beard?! The absolute... oh hang on.

I had another 2 this morning, The air in my car was tinted blue for a bit. fking wking fks!
Its too common nowadays.

Manners cost nothing....

Yet, some of the people you meet are still too tight to use them.








Edited by Hol on Thursday 8th October 10:24
It could be down to the fact I don't drive a posh car, so they see me as inferior and not worthy of acknowledgement? I don't know, nor really care but it bugs me.

I say thanks, all what worries me.
To be honest, I think what we see on the roads is just a microcosm of wider society. Call me a miserable old cynic, but I think people are becoming ruder, more intolerant, self-entitled and selfish. Worst thing is, I think it applies to all social classes, genders, races. etc, which is quite worrying. frown

Case in point this evening. I was quite happily driving up the A1 northbound.

Heading past Sandy there is a 50mph limit with Gatso's, so most people take it easy. Apart from the wker in the 3 Series who was suddenly bearing down on me at an alarming rate. I initially didn't notice him because only one of his fking lights was working, and that was about a bright as a candle!

After tailgating me for a bit he cut up a Golf then booted it uo the road, before slamming on the anchors so hard for the Gatso that he nearly lost it and hit the car he was passing.

He then booted it again through the NSL section tailgating and undertaking cars before a last minute swerve in to a petrol station cutting up the car in lane 1, which narrowly avoided rear ending him

As I drove past I noticed he was on his phone.



Edited by jogger1976 on Thursday 8th October 21:40
It's a sign of the times, if out in the street, where acting like a knob to that degree would probably end up with a smack in the chops, every..well, most people are civilised. I admit, you get the odd wker who pushes through regardless, but a large proportion of people say excuse me and thanks if you hold a door open for them. You put them in a car, and let them out of a side turn, they suddenly act as if it's their right of way, and anybody driving around them must yield to their superiority.

Out and about though, if I hold the door open for someone and get nothing, or they close the door in my face, I clearly say "Yeah, thanks for closing the door/holding it open"
It rubs me up the wrong way, something rotton.
Trust me, you're not alone in your concern: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

122 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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I guess I'm part of a dying breed. I was brought up knowing that I had to work to get anywhere in life, and that yes it would be hard at time, but you would be rewarded. Rather than what appears to be more normal nowadays is to expect the world to give you everything.

I'm only 21 as well; that's what makes it worse. 5, maybe 10 people on my facepalm have had kids. I can think of 1, that will get somewhere and won't end up on the dole for the rest of their lives. Kinda sad really.

ORD

18,119 posts

127 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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People who respond to a queue in their lane by swerving (without looking) into another lane.

Incident 1: Approaching traffic lights in the LH lane (marked ahead only). Cars queueing in the RH lane (marked ahead or right turn). I am travelling at 30mph. Car to my right decides to pull out from the back of the queue at 5mph and join the LH lane as I am about to pass. I swerve to the left a couple of feet and carry out an emergency stop and am lucky not to be rear-ended by the car behind me (which was fortunately following at a safe distance). I give the idiot an angry toot on the horn. He then tries to carry on pulling out, into my car, so I hoot again and drive off to get out of his way.

Incident 2: About 500 metres later, I am again in the LH of two, with the RH lane again for ahead or turning right at the next lights. Guy from incident 1 is in the RH lane just ahead of me, indicating right, sees a queue forming and AGAIN swerves wildly into the LH lane without indicating or checking his mirrors. I again anchor on and use the horn.

Incident 3: At the next lights, the blithering idiot does exactly the same thing to the car in front of me, causing it to carry out an emergency stop. I have no fking idea why the idiot kept going into the RH lane and then swerving back into the LH lane for the lights.

A minute or so later, I am alongside the idiot at the lights (having been very careful to be nowhere near his car until it was stationary) and I wind down my window and get him to do the same. I said calmly "Please use your mirrors and indicators. You almost caused an accident 3 times in the last couple of minutes". He shouted "There's no need for all that!" (presumably referring to me hooting him twice), and I was then the knob - I shouted "Use your fking mirrors! You're a terrible driver!" a couple of times, and he looked very upset.

KAgantua

3,869 posts

131 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Tutty drivers.

My mums house is on a two way residential road, but with only space for one car in places.
I drive onto the road (Coming back from the vet) and theres a car behind me. Instead of stopping and pulling across the road (and blocking her progress) to reverse into the drive, I pull to the nearside of the road and put the hazards on (to allow her to pass before I pull forward, and pull across the road to reverse into the drive).
Driver shakes her head, and 'glares' me as she passes!
WTF? So sorry you had to drive around me....

Edited by KAgantua on Friday 9th October 09:45

Blown2CV

28,795 posts

203 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Blanchimont said:
I guess I'm part of a dying breed. I was brought up knowing that I had to work to get anywhere in life, and that yes it would be hard at time, but you would be rewarded. Rather than what appears to be more normal nowadays is to expect the world to give you everything.

I'm only 21 as well; that's what makes it worse. 5, maybe 10 people on my facepalm have had kids. I can think of 1, that will get somewhere and won't end up on the dole for the rest of their lives. Kinda sad really.
i can only assume you are facebook friends with these people and not genuine friends, but if you feel that way it's time to chop some people out of your list!

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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The woman who stopped when the lollipop lady stepped out to let the kids cross and then as soon as they started crossing drove around her and parked on the pavement where they were crossing to

I can only assume it was to save 20 seconds until she could get to the carpark for the post office collection point just the other side

TankRizzo

7,260 posts

193 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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The motorcyclist who cut across the front of me this morning - two lanes going to a roundabout, left hand lane left turn only, right lane straight on/right. Me approaching roundabout in RH lane, looking right and continuing as traffic is clear. Motorcyclist decides he will go straight on from the left-turn only lane, straight across me. I wasn't expecting anyone to do that, saw him coming in my side mirror but assumed he was going left.

Must have missed him by 12 inches. fking throbber.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

183 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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On of my headlight bulbs smashed the other morning on my way home from work. I pulled over and replaced it half a mile later. Apparently I'm a nob for suggesting anyone who drives more than a short while with a headlight out is a moron. rolleyes

Monkeylegend

26,361 posts

231 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Liquid Knight said:
On of my headlight bulbs smashed the other morning on my way home from work. I pulled over and replaced it half a mile later. Apparently I'm a nob for suggesting anyone who drives more than a short while with a headlight out is a moron. rolleyes
Well if you have to dismantle the front end of your car to replace, one doing it on the side of the road can be difficult, not to say dangerous wink

Hol

8,408 posts

200 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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TankRizzo said:
The motorcyclist who cut across the front of me this morning - two lanes going to a roundabout, left hand lane left turn only, right lane straight on/right. Me approaching roundabout in RH lane, looking right and continuing as traffic is clear. Motorcyclist decides he will go straight on from the left-turn only lane, straight across me. I wasn't expecting anyone to do that, saw him coming in my side mirror but assumed he was going left.

Must have missed him by 12 inches. fking throbber.
This might yet end up being all your fault - depending on who reads it next.




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