One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

[Hol]

fire3500 said:

Whoa there, young lady...

Where did I remove any responsibility from the biker? I simply said that the car driver could have done more to anticipate it. If *assuming* (wrongly) what the bike would do is great driving then I stand corrected...

I think I actually described what the bike rider did as a "dick move". Had the two collided the rider of the bike would almost certainly have come off worse, and the failure to ride defensively would have been the cause, with the lack of observation of the driver being a contributory factor.

The thing at the root of this that irks me is that as dickish as the biker was being, the driver of the car gave enough evidence of his own imperfection to make me speak up. I never said the bike was not in the wrong.

Well girlfriend,

I guess you have spent too much time in the saddle.
Its obviously clouded your judgement.


Others have also noticed it, so perhaps you might too?

Edited by Hol on Wednesday 14th October 09:18

[DMN]

Hol said:

Others have also noticed it, so perhaps you might too?

Edited by Hol on Wednesday 14th October 09:18

That would require him to have some intelligence.

[WD39]

Blown2CV said:

ORD said:

alpha channel said:

WD39 said:

Sorry, not worthy of any reply.

...and yet you replied... I'll tell you what, you ignore my post and I'll ignore your post. I don't know what I did to get a bee into your bonnet but live and let live and go our separate ways yes?

Edited by alpha channel on Monday 12th October 20:46

Get a room before we all get semis.

too late

First time I have driven fellow PHers into a frenzy of desire. Is that what trolling is?

[WD39]

alpha channel said:

WD39 said:

Sorry, not worthy of any reply.

...and yet you replied... I'll tell you what, you ignore my post and I'll ignore your post. I don't know what I did to get a bee into your bonnet but live and let live and go our separate ways yes?

Edited by alpha channel on Monday 12th October 20:46

Exellent. I won't show you mine, if you don't show me yours.

[alpha channel]

That'll do me, anyway I thought buying a house together might be a bit much

[smithyithy]

Every person that uses our works exit as a layby and blocks our vehicles from entering / exiting. Double tt-points for those that use it as a fly-tipping location.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.6735033,-2.40976...

Should add; all the vegetation has been cut back a few metres now and the sign is as clear as daylight, people just don't care.

[alpha channel]

WD39 said:

First time I have driven fellow PHers into a frenzy of desire. Is that what trolling is?

I think it's a fetish thing... I have to admit I thought I'd never be part of a PHers lustful desires either :shudder:

I promise to never show you mine.

Anyway, something a little on topic and something that can't be denied as being knobish - three way roundabout not far from home (putting those things in is knobish behaviour in itself, damn things caused more accidents than the junction that it replaced ever did), this time, early evening, suns out (just) I'm indicating to go right at the roundabout, can't be any clearer, woman in a Golf opposite seems to get tired of waiting and simply pulls out grinning like a loon all the while.

[WD39]

fire3500 said:

Hol said:

Yes he was - In a left turn only lane that would typically mean 99.99% of the time that he is turning left. In his left hand, left turn only road.

No matter how much road going responsibility you decide to remove from the biker and lay on the motorist, the motorist acted correctly and the biker did not.

Edited by Hol on Tuesday 13th October 16:36

Also, bikes have to slow down for corners too, just like cars. If the bike was not slowing down or even accelerating up my inside then that would ring alarm bells as I'd more likely expect a bike turning left at a roundabout to be slowing and indicating to make that turn. If they were not slowing down and not indicating then I'd be interested to see where this was going and either holding back myself at the approach to the roundabout and letting the bike get ahead so I could check out what comes next from a position of advantage or looking in that mirror further to see what develops, not making an assumption and looking right to see if I could scoot out.

Bikers slowing down for corners? You must be Mcjoking!
Where I live they have these steel knee thingys and glide round corners, nearly horizontal with the tarmac.
Think they are on the IOM.

[WD39]

All this talk of bikers is getting a bit dreary. Can we get back to blondes in Range Rovers on the phone?

[carlove]

Me, a little bit but mostly a cyclist.
Some dick undertook me as I was indicating and turning left (minor to major), luckily I saw him and stopped as to not kill him, I gave him a beep of the horn, he glared at me, overtook him safely after and ended up at some lights not long later, he called me a wker and shook his head, when I overtook again (still safely) I gave him a long blast of the horn like you see on the YouTube videos (that was my bit of knobishness), he really didn't like that, he turned off before the next lights though.

Just to clarify before it gets said he pulled out behind me just before I reached the junction where I turned left.

[All that jazz]

smithyithy said:

Every person that uses our works exit as a layby and blocks our vehicles from entering / exiting. Double tt-points for those that use it as a fly-tipping location.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.6735033,-2.40976...

Should add; all the vegetation has been cut back a few metres now and the sign is as clear as daylight, people just don't care.

Surely it should never be a problem unless you have a lot of emergencies?

[All that jazz]

carlove said:

Me, a little bit but mostly a cyclist.
Some dick undertook me as I was indicating and turning left (minor to major), luckily I saw him and stopped as to not kill him, I gave him a beep of the horn, he glared at me, overtook him safely after and ended up at some lights not long later, he called me a wker and shook his head, when I overtook again (still safely) I gave him a long blast of the horn like you see on the YouTube videos (that was my bit of knobishness), he really didn't like that, he turned off before the next lights though.

Just to clarify before it gets said he pulled out behind me just before I reached the junction where I turned left.

You should've run the over.

[Hol]

smithyithy said:

Every person that uses our works exit as a layby and blocks our vehicles from entering / exiting. Double tt-points for those that use it as a fly-tipping location.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.6735033,-2.40976...

Should add; all the vegetation has been cut back a few metres now and the sign is as clear as daylight, people just don't care.

A tall concreted scaffold pole behind the gate, dummy or live & unconnected CCTV camera with visible wiring and a sign on the fence saying Fly Tippers will be reported in all cases.

Or 24hr CCTV Monitoring at this site etc...


Dependent on distance between the gate and the nearest plug socket, you could even wire it up for real.

[smithyithy]

All that jazz said:

Surely it should never be a problem unless you have a lot of emergencies?

Incident Support Unit are based at our depot so they use that exit to quickly get onto the dual carriageway and then the motorway.

Likewise, they and the other works vehicles use it as their main entrance. Vehicles often pull in parallel to the road, making it physically impossible for us to pull in without slowing to about 5mph and maneuvering around them. Additionally our works vehicles are covered in flashing amber lights, so generally approaching traffic will move over early to allow them to pull out, whereas if a car's parked there they'll have to wait for them to faff about pulling out first.

Hol said:

A tall concreted scaffold pole behind the gate, dummy or live & unconnected CCTV camera with visible wiring and a sign on the fence saying Fly Tippers will be reported in all cases.

Or 24hr CCTV Monitoring at this site etc...


Dependent on distance between the gate and the nearest plug socket, you could even wire it up for real.

I think there's CCTV facing the gate from the inside, but nothing to pick up vehicles parked on the edge of the bellmouth IIRC.

[Hol]

smithyithy said:

I think there's CCTV facing the gate from the inside, but nothing to pick up vehicles parked on the edge of the bellmouth IIRC.

Put one there. The same model as the live one.

[fire3500]

Hackney said:

Where did I say "blameless biker"?

And dick-move is self explanatory really, it's a move that makes one look a dick.

[yellowjack]

Some young Doris on a bicycle this afternoon, doing her very best to get very dead under a couple of cars.

She came belting around a corner, riding a ladies' "step through" shopper type bike. She was on the footway, turning right out of a side road. She was going so fast that there was no remote hope of her staying on the footway...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.3100905,-0.77819...

As she hit the outside of the bend, she left the footway, at speed, and went straight into the path of a Ford Focus. The driver braked heavily, and steered away from the kerb. She somehow stayed on the bike, and managed to tuck into the kerb, get past the Focus, only to try a second time to go under the car behind the Focus. I think she was trying to whizz over the road, to get into the correct lane in the right direction. She eventually saw sense and retreated up a dropped kerb section, back onto the footway. Which, despite being illegal, was the best thing for her at that particular moment.

Throughout the 'incident' she was grinning like a lunatic, and seemed completely unperturbed by her proximity to oncoming vehicles, and potential serious injury. Completely mental, in my opinion. Possibly the single most dangerous piece of 'cycling' I've ever witnessed.

And before anyone thinks that this is yet another "bike-bashing" post, I was riding my own bicycle up the road, crossing the end of the road she was turning out from, and if I hadn't realised early on that she was not going to 'make' her turn at that speed, I could well have had a near miss myself with the Focus leaving it's lane and steering into mine.

Stupid, stupid Doris.

Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 15th October 23:22

[carlove]

All that jazz said:

carlove said:

Me, a little bit but mostly a cyclist.
Some dick undertook me as I was indicating and turning left (minor to major), luckily I saw him and stopped as to not kill him, I gave him a beep of the horn, he glared at me, overtook him safely after and ended up at some lights not long later, he called me a wker and shook his head, when I overtook again (still safely) I gave him a long blast of the horn like you see on the YouTube videos (that was my bit of knobishness), he really didn't like that, he turned off before the next lights though.

Just to clarify before it gets said he pulled out behind me just before I reached the junction where I turned left.

You should've run the over.

Tempting, but I've not had my car a month yet, don't want bits of cyclist all over it.

[romeogolf]

Knob #1 who hooted me when a light turned green, despite a solid queue on the other side of the junction meaning to go through the light would result in me potentially blocking the road if the lights cycled through again before the traffic moved.

Later was knob #2 in a Fiesta. I was sitting at this junction (https://goo.gl/maps/LgZ2hNkxAjM2) indicating right and sitting 'this' side of the yellow box as there were 3 cars already waiting at the red light. Said Fiesta comes up behind me, then scoots left, goes around me, and sits ahead of me in the yellow box.

http://images.dailyvanity.sg/wp-content/uploads/20...

[Tyre Tread]

romeogolf said:

Later was knob #2 in a Fiesta. I was sitting at this junction (https://goo.gl/maps/LgZ2hNkxAjM2) indicating right and sitting 'this' side of the yellow box as there were 3 cars already waiting at the red light. Said Fiesta comes up behind me, then scoots left, goes around me, and sits ahead of me in the yellow box.

See Highway Code rule 174. He clearly was trying to drop you the hint. Maybe you should rescind your knob nomination on that one.