One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

[Nilt]

Another on my commute home. Quite slow moving traffic in both directions.

5:15pm and stupid women in opposite lane with no lights on, traffic doing about 5mph, car behind her flashing as to warn her, no response. What was lit up was her stupid face as she was on her phone.

fk knows how she managed to get all the way there without realising she had no lights on as anything residential is a bit of a way away.

[fwaggie]

WD39 said:

When you are in a hole........

You are falling in the hole, not him.

Roads are made to be used by vehicles, if all the vehicles used both lanes the queue would be 250 yards long, not 500, and if everyone had a modicum of common sense and manners the traffic would "zip" into the single lane and the flow through that section at the same speed, so making more efficient use of the road network.

[feef]

WD39 said:

Ghost91 said:

Not car related, but I just went in to Aldi for some stuff (fruit, wine and chocolate is pretty good & cheap!) and was in the queue.

The woman behind me repeatedly exclaimed to her small child that they were off to waitrose next. She must've said it 7 or 8 times! Clearly worried she looked a bit council shopping in Aldi.

Absolute knob.

As if anyone in there cares that she's lowered herself to shopping in there

After shopping at Waitrose, I say 'Right, off to Aldi' Never fails not to raise a titter.

Lidl has quite a good deal on Tete de Moine cheese right now, £7 and it comes with it's own girole

[Leeskiramm]

Liquid Knight said:

An autodysfunctional egotist in a red Focus last night on the A47. I caught up with the chap on a single carriageway section and followed as he was doing 48-53mph. The next section he crept off the roundabout up to 51mph so at the next roundabout I knew he'd pootle and if the road was clear I'd pass and he'd be safe going as slow as he feels is safe to do so.

Next roundabout. No traffic coming so I passed as we exited. No issues there at all, he didn't floor it to try and block my move or react at all to be honest. I carried along at sixty but noticed he was still in my mirrors a safe distance back. The next roundabout was on to a dual carriageway. Several vehicles ahead including an HGV so I took the right lane into the right lane of the dual section. Passed the truck without incident and carried on up to seventy and a bit. My exit was up ahead and just as I signal left the red Focus cuts across in front of me and slows down without brake lights. If I weren't going for the slip road I could have hit him.

What tool!

Seriously if your fragile little ego can not take being overtaken by a Fiat Panda and you have to try and ram the car off the road in a futile attempt to exact revenge you shouldn't be on the road.

Classic example of pandignity

[e21Mark]

e21Mark said:

Ghost91 said:

e21Mark said:

The chap I booked via Shiply to drive my new purchase down from Leeds to Cornwall on trade plates.

Accepted his quote on condition was collected & delivered same day. Yesterday I text Mr Transport and ask if he's arranged collection and he tells me there's no reply, from the chap I bought the car from? I ring, get straight through and am told the guys been available all day and his phone hasn't rung once, despite an email saying Mr Transport would be in touch. I message Mr Transport, tell him to call now and he texts back to say all arranged and he'll collect at 10am following day.

Call Mr Transport at 10.15am to check car collected? No reply. Text and again, no reply. Call guy I bought car from and am told he finally collected the car at 11.15, so I then call Mr Transport and leave a voicemail asking when he's likely to arrive?

At 2.30 I try calling again, still no reply, so test asking for ETA as am supposed to be going out tonight. This is the reply.....

Hi mark have you're. Car but.
Cannot. Deliver till. 8 am
tomorrow. As rheumatoid car I
was picking. Up has been.
Cancelled so I need. To get
train. Home in the morning. Am
very. Sorry. Only bid on your car
because. Of the. One coming
back. See you early. Tomorrow.
Dek.

I called. No reply. Text asking why he hasn't called and explained sooner? Also asked where my car is being kept till tomorrow? Have called 3 times in past hour and text each time, but had no response. In fairness, I have never had a problem booking transport via shiply in the past, but this guy is taking the piss. Considering my options but am tempted to notify the Police, as I never accepted his quote in the knowledge he's have my car overnight.

Sounds odd. Just a simple phone call might put your mind at rest and they can't even do that!

It's the ignoring me and lack on contact that pisses me off. I'm sure it's no big deal but frustrating when people can't be arsed to answer the phone.

Well Karma bit Mr Transport on the arse. After ignoring more calls and text', he rocks up on my door step at 7.30 this morning. A few words, paid his fee and he asks where he can get the bus to the nearest train station St Austell? Now we live in St Agnes, so it's a fair distance anyway, but there are certainly no direct bus routes. In fact, he has to get to Truro first and then get a bus from there! It'll take a fair while too. Now had he not been such an arse over the past couple of days, I would have said jump in and driven him to Truro train station, which is actually the nearest station and way closer than St Austell, where he could have hopped on the train home.

[Hol]

Last night whilst out running I saw two muppetts who had a collision on a section of unlit footpath.

One on a bike obviously in a hurry and another runner, neither of whom had any hi viz on their person (or working lights in the cyclists case).

I had no sympathy for either of them when I ran past just as they were starting on the playground stages of their subsequent 'argument'.

If they havent noticed by November that its now dark outside at 8.00pm, then they are idiots.

[SistersofPercy]

Ghost91 said:

Not car related, but I just went in to Aldi for some stuff (fruit, wine and chocolate is pretty good & cheap!) and was in the queue.

The woman behind me repeatedly exclaimed to her small child that they were off to waitrose next. She must've said it 7 or 8 times! Clearly worried she looked a bit council shopping in Aldi.

Absolute knob.

As if anyone in there cares that she's lowered herself to shopping in there

Our Aldi is next door to Tesco. Followed a couple out of there once who'd loaded all their shopping into M&S bags. By coincidence we were both going into the Tesco and I was walking past their car on Tesco car park as they pulled their Waitrose bags out of the boot for the Tesco shop.
Made me smile. This was long before the charge was introduced.

[Ghost91]

e21Mark said:

Well Karma bit Mr Transport on the arse. After ignoring more calls and text', he rocks up on my door step at 7.30 this morning. A few words, paid his fee and he asks where he can get the bus to the nearest train station St Austell? Now we live in St Agnes, so it's a fair distance anyway, but there are certainly no direct bus routes. In fact, he has to get to Truro first and then get a bus from there! It'll take a fair while too. Now had he not been such an arse over the past couple of days, I would have said jump in and driven him to Truro train station, which is actually the nearest station and way closer than St Austell, where he could have hopped on the train home.

serves him right! The car was fine then I take it?

[Ghost91]

SistersofPercy said:

Our Aldi is next door to Tesco. Followed a couple out of there once who'd loaded all their shopping into M&S bags. By coincidence we were both going into the Tesco and I was walking past their car on Tesco car park as they pulled their Waitrose bags out of the boot for the Tesco shop.
Made me smile. This was long before the charge was introduced.

Can't have the neighbours thinking they can't afford the best when unloading the car!

I love the 'essentials' range in waitrose... They have essentials like jasmine ironing water (a basic human right obviously!), and essential gooseberry fool, which went down particularly well when I was eating one at work

[smithyithy]

We've no shame at shopping in Aldi.

Waitrose is out of our realistic weekly budget, and from experience, Aldi is cheaper and no worse quality overall than the other big name supermarkets.

More importantly, our local is well positioned near a retail park whereas the others are more 'in town', so Aldi provides a more relaxed shopping experience with far less scrotes wandering around the aisles.

[scrubchub]

WD39 said:

When you are in a hole........

I actually checked my posting history to see if you are the same guy who has this exact same disagreement with me about 4 months ago, lo and behold, you are, and in the very same thread.

Get over it. You're wrong. Find a new thread to troll. Whether you like it or not, that is what you are doing - hanging around the same thread saying the same things, even though you are proved to be wrong. And you were proved to be wrong - the last time you embarked on this crusade somebody quoted a road planner who has desgined countless merge in turns and knows exactly what they are for. You conveniently ignored him.

[WD39]

fwaggie said:

WD39 said:

When you are in a hole........

You are falling in the hole, not him.

Roads are made to be used by vehicles, if all the vehicles used both lanes the queue would be 250 yards long, not 500, and if everyone had a modicum of common sense and manners the traffic would "zip" into the single lane and the flow through that section at the same speed, so making more efficient use of the road network.
[/quote)

From WD39

Every explanation that he gave, led to only one conclusion: Pushing In.

That is why there was 500 yards of slow moving traffic on his left. They knew, as he did, that it was a single lane exit and were quite prepared to wait.

You can see this patient and courteous behaviour at any point where two lanes become one, either at road works or clearly signed areas of highway.

British drivers dislike other motorists who gain ground by sneaky and underhand methods.

Drivers who defend this practice by crying 'use the road' etc. are likely serial pushers in themselves, while the rest of us are quite prepared to wait our turn.

Edited by WD39 on Wednesday 18th November 18:33

Edited by WD39 on Wednesday 18th November 18:34

[WD39]

scrubchub said:

WD39 said:

When you are in a hole........

I actually checked my posting history to see if you are the same guy who has this exact same disagreement with me about 4 months ago, lo and behold, you are, and in the very same thread.

Get over it. You're wrong. Find a new thread to troll. Whether you like it or not, that is what you are doing - hanging around the same thread saying the same things, even though you are proved to be wrong. And you were proved to be wrong - the last time you embarked on this crusade somebody quoted a road planner who has desgined countless merge in turns and knows exactly what they are for. You conveniently ignored him.

I raise the subject because it is an aspect of driving that I believe to be wrong and discourteous, and it was in reply to a driver trying to justify an obvious 'push in'

Time and distance have no credence on PH. Many subjects are raised over and over again. This is a good thing as it encourages fresh comment and new viewpoints.

Check the HC for the correct definition of merge in turn. Apart from road works the only 'official' merge in turn sign that I have seen is upon entering Norwich. I observed this, but it was still a free for all.

Edited by WD39 on Wednesday 18th November 18:49

[Ghost91]

smithyithy said:

We've no shame at shopping in Aldi.

Waitrose is out of our realistic weekly budget, and from experience, Aldi is cheaper and no worse quality overall than the other big name supermarkets.

More importantly, our local is well positioned near a retail park whereas the others are more 'in town', so Aldi provides a more relaxed shopping experience with far less scrotes wandering around the aisles.

It's briliant, the food is of the same quality as other supermarkets and ours is also less busy/easier to park.

We've saved so much money since shopping in Aldi instead of waitrose/tescos. So much in fact that with the money saved we now have a cleaner come in once or twice a week at home! I'd say it's well worth the saving!

[WD39]

Ghost91 said:

smithyithy said:

We've no shame at shopping in Aldi.

Waitrose is out of our realistic weekly budget, and from experience, Aldi is cheaper and no worse quality overall than the other big name supermarkets.

More importantly, our local is well positioned near a retail park whereas the others are more 'in town', so Aldi provides a more relaxed shopping experience with far less scrotes wandering around the aisles.

It's briliant, the food is of the same quality as other supermarkets and ours is also less busy/easier to park.

We've saved so much money since shopping in Aldi instead of waitrose/tescos. So much in fact that with the money saved we now have a cleaner come in once or twice a week at home! I'd say it's well worth the saving!

And the wine! I'm currently drinking a cheeky, south facing, trod by local maidens Argentinian Malbec.


Exellent. (and only £4.79.)

[e21Mark]

Ghost91 said:

e21Mark said:

Well Karma bit Mr Transport on the arse. After ignoring more calls and text', he rocks up on my door step at 7.30 this morning. A few words, paid his fee and he asks where he can get the bus to the nearest train station St Austell? Now we live in St Agnes, so it's a fair distance anyway, but there are certainly no direct bus routes. In fact, he has to get to Truro first and then get a bus from there! It'll take a fair while too. Now had he not been such an arse over the past couple of days, I would have said jump in and driven him to Truro train station, which is actually the nearest station and way closer than St Austell, where he could have hopped on the train home.

serves him right! The car was fine then I take it?

Actually even better than I'd hoped. Just needs one new lambda, so £24 job done.

[scrubchub]

WD39 said:

I raise the subject because it is an aspect of driving that I believe to be wrong and discourteous, and it was in reply to a driver trying to justify an obvious 'push in'

Time and distance have no credence on PH. Many subjects are raised over and over again. This is a good thing as it encourages fresh comment and new viewpoints.

Check the HC for the correct definition of merge in turn. Apart from road works the only 'official' merge in turn sign that I have seen is upon entering Norwich. I observed this, but it was still a free for all.

Edited by WD39 on Wednesday 18th November 18:49

I even quoted the highway code last time this conversation came up. It is very very clear that you are wrong. As I stated, you also had the benefit of the expertise of a road designer who had planned countless merge in turn points. He confirmed that your view on them is wrong.

You are entitled to your opinion, but that does not make you correct. You will not ever see the error of your ways, so this is not, actually, a discussion.

Enjoy sitting in lines of traffic with your misplaced sense of 'courtesy'. I shall continue to use the roads as they are designed to be used. If the price of that is that once a year or so some silly, ill informed fool flashes his lights as I legally and not remotely dangerously use the road as it is meant to be used, I shall just have to live with it.

[Conscript]

WD39 said:

Drivers who defend this practice by crying 'use the road' etc. are likely serial pushers in themselves, while the rest of us are quite prepared to wait our turn.

The reason the practice is defended like that is because that is exactly the intention of the designers who lay out junctions like the one in question.
The precise point of having two lanes merging into one at a specific point is to reduce queuing lengths. If the intention had been for you to merge 500 yards earlier, the lanes would have narrowed 500 yards earlier - if what you're suggesting is true, then there's an enormous amount of materials and labour being wasted constructing lanes wider than they need to be.

It is a logical and obvious use of road space intended to have the effect of easing congestion further back along the road network. Unfortunately, far too many people hold opinions like yours, considering doing anything other than moving left as soon as possible as "queue jumping" and "pushing in". It is not. Quite why so many people have this opinion is both bizarre and frustrating for road designers.

I know this because I used to work for a construction company which dealt heavily in traffic management and highway works, and had a lot of exposure to road construction at the planning and design stages, including speaking to such road designers. I state in the hope that I can convince you that the opinions you are posting on this matter are incorrect and to counter them by explaining the intentions of the very people who design the roads.

However, I get the impression from your posts so far that you won't change your mind and will brush me off as a "serial pusher in". I really hope you don't because the more people we can convince otherwise, the more efficient our road network will work.

EDIT: I've just seen from scrubhub's post above that you've already ignored the facts as laid out by a road designer, so I guess my post will have no bearing on you whatsoever.

Edited by Conscript on Wednesday 18th November 20:45

[Liquid Knight]

Leeskiramm said:

Liquid Knight said:

An autodysfunctional egotist in a red Focus last night on the A47. I caught up with the chap on a single carriageway section and followed as he was doing 48-53mph. The next section he crept off the roundabout up to 51mph so at the next roundabout I knew he'd pootle and if the road was clear I'd pass and he'd be safe going as slow as he feels is safe to do so.

Next roundabout. No traffic coming so I passed as we exited. No issues there at all, he didn't floor it to try and block my move or react at all to be honest. I carried along at sixty but noticed he was still in my mirrors a safe distance back. The next roundabout was on to a dual carriageway. Several vehicles ahead including an HGV so I took the right lane into the right lane of the dual section. Passed the truck without incident and carried on up to seventy and a bit. My exit was up ahead and just as I signal left the red Focus cuts across in front of me and slows down without brake lights. If I weren't going for the slip road I could have hit him.

What tool!

Seriously if your fragile little ego can not take being overtaken by a Fiat Panda and you have to try and ram the car off the road in a futile attempt to exact revenge you shouldn't be on the road.

Classic example of pandignity

The exact same thing happened today on the A17

I caught up a chap who was pootling along in a (different) Focus, overtook as we left a roundabout and left him behind.

I was in my FTO this time so it could be a Panda thing or this Focus driver wasn't a complete tool.

[AlexRS2782]

scrubchub said:

Enjoy sitting in lines of traffic with your misplaced sense of 'courtesy'. I shall continue to use the roads as they are designed to be used. If the price of that is that once a year or so some silly, ill informed fool flashes his lights as I legally and not remotely dangerously use the road as it is meant to be used, I shall just have to live with it.

On a similar note to this, and I know I've said it before on here, the people that do the above are probably the same people local to me that seem happy to sit in 1 mile long plus queues rather than use the VERY clearly signposted bus lanes OUTSIDE of their operating hours (rush hour).

I, and a handful of other sensible people, happily saved 20 minutes on Wednesday afternoon by driving in the bus lane, like the signs say you can outside of the rush hour, rather than sitting like a lemming in the massive mile long plus queue that had backed up queuing in the "normal" lane for a set of traffic lights.