One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
Discussion
andyr30 said:
Local shop next to mine, not a very busy one, has two car parks on either side.
Probably about 12 spaces in total. There is always usually a space.
Yet most people park on the road outside with hazard lights on whilst they waddle into the shop. It saves them about 10m of walking and the oh so challenging task of parking in an car park.
Knobs
They may be hazard lights in some cars, but in others they are a premium option known as "I'm-not-supposed-to-park-here-but-because-I've-put-these-on-it's-all-ok-lights".Probably about 12 spaces in total. There is always usually a space.
Yet most people park on the road outside with hazard lights on whilst they waddle into the shop. It saves them about 10m of walking and the oh so challenging task of parking in an car park.
Knobs
The nob in an interlink express Mercedes Sprinter, who decided to try and take the right hand lane at a roundabout to go straight on when I was in the left lane going straight on. He tucked in behind me rather than try and cut me up (although at one point he was along side me), and then started gesticulating and tailgating me! It's not indicated to use the right lane, so he was certainly in the wrong. Why he felt the need to gesticulate at me I don't know.
Was it a roundabout where the only other exit was left?
Because there are two of them near me, 99% of people use the first lane for the first exit and the 2nd lane for the 2nd exit, like any sensible person would, then you get the 1% who see everyone going straight on in the right lane but decided that it's always the left lane for straight on, so they just cut everyone up.
There are no arrows on approach
Because there are two of them near me, 99% of people use the first lane for the first exit and the 2nd lane for the 2nd exit, like any sensible person would, then you get the 1% who see everyone going straight on in the right lane but decided that it's always the left lane for straight on, so they just cut everyone up.
There are no arrows on approach
ORD said:
It's still a rule that you wait when the obstruction is on your side of the road, right? Just checking - driver last night took great offence at me leaning on the horn after he caused me to carry out an emergency stop as he came around a corner on my side of the road because he was overtaking a parked car. I was already covering the brake when I saw the parked car; if I hadn't been, it would have been a close run thing.
What I don't get is this - he was so fuxking obviously in the wrong, even if he didn't see me or whatever, so why blast his horn back? Why does nobody ever just accept that they are in the wrong?! What would he have said if I had confronted him? I really can't see any possible way in which he was wronged!
Unfortunately not. Same principle as people who hammer through roundabouts at speeds which make it very difficult for anyone waiting to enter the roundabout to do so safely. YOU must be in the wrong. With the obstruction thing, most now treat it as a race to get to the gap first, not that they'll wait because the obstruction is on their side. What I don't get is this - he was so fuxking obviously in the wrong, even if he didn't see me or whatever, so why blast his horn back? Why does nobody ever just accept that they are in the wrong?! What would he have said if I had confronted him? I really can't see any possible way in which he was wronged!
scarble said:
Was it a roundabout where the only other exit was left?
Because there are two of them near me, 99% of people use the first lane for the first exit and the 2nd lane for the 2nd exit, like any sensible person would, then you get the 1% who see everyone going straight on in the right lane but decided that it's always the left lane for straight on, so they just cut everyone up.
There are no arrows on approach
No, there is a left, straight on, and right (and then back the way you came). Pretty much everybody uses the left hand lane to go straight on at this roundabout, however there are a few nobs who use the right hand lane.Because there are two of them near me, 99% of people use the first lane for the first exit and the 2nd lane for the 2nd exit, like any sensible person would, then you get the 1% who see everyone going straight on in the right lane but decided that it's always the left lane for straight on, so they just cut everyone up.
There are no arrows on approach
Triumph Man said:
No, there is a left, straight on, and right (and then back the way you came). Pretty much everybody uses the left hand lane to go straight on at this roundabout, however there are a few nobs who use the right hand lane.
You mean there are a few drivers who legitimately use either lane to go straight on?It is unfortunate that the English disease of not being able to merge when necessary comes into play when the exit is a single lane.
Edited by Cliftonite on Tuesday 12th May 13:30
Triumph Man said:
The nob in an interlink express Mercedes Sprinter, who decided to try and take the right hand lane at a roundabout to go straight on when I was in the left lane going straight on. He tucked in behind me rather than try and cut me up (although at one point he was along side me), and then started gesticulating and tailgating me! It's not indicated to use the right lane, so he was certainly in the wrong. Why he felt the need to gesticulate at me I don't know.
I just had a yellow Sprinter try and turn left from L2 whilst I was going straight on in L1.A20 junction with south circular roundabout.
Orange HGV had priority......
mr2j said:
Hello - how about cyclists that refuse to use a perfectly clear cycle-lane and sit out on the main carriageway of a 40mph stretch, having traffic backed up behind them at 15mph. Wait until no traffic from other direction, move out and overtake safely, [b]but give a little bip bip just in case, cyclist promptly explodes into gestures and shouting[\b]. No right turn to make, no buildings, no indication from cyclist that he wants to or can go anywhere but straight on. Come on people, let's just be a bit more aware of each other and not so quick to anger :\
I do get the feeling from some cyclists that what they see as enough room to for me to overtake is actually for me not enough to safely do so which is paradoxical because the usual complaint is drivers passing too close. Is it a spatial awareness thing? I'm happy to wait until it's safe but when there is an empty cycle lane and you don't use it, I just don't know what to think :S
Eerily similar ignorance on display to that fella with the Jaaaaag that posted (has he gone?!) on here I do get the feeling from some cyclists that what they see as enough room to for me to overtake is actually for me not enough to safely do so which is paradoxical because the usual complaint is drivers passing too close. Is it a spatial awareness thing? I'm happy to wait until it's safe but when there is an empty cycle lane and you don't use it, I just don't know what to think :S
A35, single-carriageway section through New Forest. I use it almost daily and frequently get caught behind a 45mph driver. Better of course is a 45mph driver with a train of 2 or 3 plebs behind them too afraid to over-take.
Last week I was behind an old white Transit with a clear gap ahead. Saw my space, floored it and was pulling past when the tell-tale sign of black smoke came out his exhaust. He was bloody accelerating and at quite some pace. Got in front and carried on my way, but cannot understand the mentality of some of the people we share the roads with.
Last week I was behind an old white Transit with a clear gap ahead. Saw my space, floored it and was pulling past when the tell-tale sign of black smoke came out his exhaust. He was bloody accelerating and at quite some pace. Got in front and carried on my way, but cannot understand the mentality of some of the people we share the roads with.
romeogolf said:
A35, single-carriageway section through New Forest. I use it almost daily and frequently get caught behind a 45mph driver. Better of course is a 45mph driver with a train of 2 or 3 plebs behind them too afraid to over-take.
Last week I was behind an old white Transit with a clear gap ahead. Saw my space, floored it and was pulling past when the tell-tale sign of black smoke came out his exhaust. He was bloody accelerating and at quite some pace. Got in front and carried on my way, but cannot understand the mentality of some of the people we share the roads with.
"Look at this maniac wanted to go faster then me, I must stop him post haste" Followed by furious light flashing once you've passed.Last week I was behind an old white Transit with a clear gap ahead. Saw my space, floored it and was pulling past when the tell-tale sign of black smoke came out his exhaust. He was bloody accelerating and at quite some pace. Got in front and carried on my way, but cannot understand the mentality of some of the people we share the roads with.
Cliftonite said:
carlove said:
A bus driver, a different bus had parked in his stop, a stop where he has a fag break, so he stops on the road, fair enough I think, he's just letting his passengers out, but no he has his break blocking the road (single lane so can't pass). Doesn't move for about 10 minutes, causes a massive queue, the buses in the stop now want to go but he just sits there. Surely he could have just had his break in the next stop?
Clearly an Audi-owning bus driver!Chances are that's a 'timing point' on his route. If he leaves it early he can get fired, so he has to wait & it's kind of hard to know the stop is full before you get there. Blame the bus company for using a congested stop as a timing point.
/Ex bus driver
zedx19 said:
"Look at this maniac wanted to go faster then me, I must stop him post haste" Followed by furious light flashing once you've passed.
Oh I've had that too. From talking to colleagues and friends, they're all fairly similar in the belief that over-taking is always reckless/dangerous. Head:DeskCliftonite said:
Triumph Man said:
No, there is a left, straight on, and right (and then back the way you came). Pretty much everybody uses the left hand lane to go straight on at this roundabout, however there are a few nobs who use the right hand lane.
You mean there are a few drivers who legitimately use either lane to go straight on?It is unfortunate that the English disease of not being able to merge when necessary comes into play when the exit is a single lane.
Edited by Cliftonite on Tuesday 12th May 13:30
Two lanes into one on a RBT exit? Using the RH lane is called pushing in. Nobody likes it. (APIS)
WD39 said:
Cliftonite said:
Triumph Man said:
No, there is a left, straight on, and right (and then back the way you came). Pretty much everybody uses the left hand lane to go straight on at this roundabout, however there are a few nobs who use the right hand lane.
You mean there are a few drivers who legitimately use either lane to go straight on?It is unfortunate that the English disease of not being able to merge when necessary comes into play when the exit is a single lane.
Edited by Cliftonite on Tuesday 12th May 13:30
Two lanes into one on a RBT exit? Using the RH lane is called pushing in. Nobody likes it. (APIS)
Hooli said:
Or wants to keep his job.
Chances are that's a 'timing point' on his route. If he leaves it early he can get fired, so he has to wait & it's kind of hard to know the stop is full before you get there. Blame the bus company for using a congested stop as a timing point.
/Ex bus driver
That's fair, didn't know that it was that serious. There was at least 5 buses in the subsequent queue, would they have got punished for being late? That's a genuine Question.Chances are that's a 'timing point' on his route. If he leaves it early he can get fired, so he has to wait & it's kind of hard to know the stop is full before you get there. Blame the bus company for using a congested stop as a timing point.
/Ex bus driver
I have no knowledge of the rules of being a bus driver, I was just a grumpy driver in the queue, I will say the driver is not a knob, the bus company sound like they must be First class knobs.
A couple of knobs today, first a dangerous knob, a woman in a 9-5, she was behind me, tailgating me while talking on the phone.
Second is an ignorant knob, ford Mondeo parked on double yellow lines in front of me(facing wrong way) and opposite a queue, I couldn't get past due to queue but he just sat the, put his blue badge on the dashboard and buggered off. I came the opposite way about 20 minutes later, Mondeo still there, cars still unable to get past, not helped by the drivers that don't think to stop early and leave space for cars to pass the Mondeo. I know disabled drivers can stop on double yellows under some circumstances but that can't have been legal.
trails said:
mr2j said:
Hello - how about cyclists that refuse to use a perfectly clear cycle-lane and sit out on the main carriageway of a 40mph stretch, having traffic backed up behind them at 15mph. Wait until no traffic from other direction, move out and overtake safely, [b]but give a little bip bip just in case, cyclist promptly explodes into gestures and shouting[\b]. No right turn to make, no buildings, no indication from cyclist that he wants to or can go anywhere but straight on. Come on people, let's just be a bit more aware of each other and not so quick to anger :\
I do get the feeling from some cyclists that what they see as enough room to for me to overtake is actually for me not enough to safely do so which is paradoxical because the usual complaint is drivers passing too close. Is it a spatial awareness thing? I'm happy to wait until it's safe but when there is an empty cycle lane and you don't use it, I just don't know what to think :S
Eerily similar ignorance on display to that fella with the Jaaaaag that posted (has he gone?!) on here I do get the feeling from some cyclists that what they see as enough room to for me to overtake is actually for me not enough to safely do so which is paradoxical because the usual complaint is drivers passing too close. Is it a spatial awareness thing? I'm happy to wait until it's safe but when there is an empty cycle lane and you don't use it, I just don't know what to think :S
But both accounts are older than a month or so.
Following 14 Reg RR Sport down A338 Wessex Way tonight, on a 50 MPH limited piece of dual carriageway. Ok we were all going a little over 50, but RR sport man was trying to climb into boot of Mazda 6 ahead. He was behind someone else and we were all overtaking a line of cars. Mazda man was rightly being cautious as the local "police camera saftety partnership" often use this bit of carriageway. I was behind from a reasonable distance and it went like this.."brake light.." (from RR Sport)....30 metres, "brake light". The bloke must have nudged his brakes at least 10 times during a half mile stretch of carriageway.
..I'm sorry but if you drive so close you need to brake every few seconds you are KN** - made all the more obvious by being in a RR Sport, a car everyone else apart from those who own them loves to hate! And people wonder why there is hostility towards these sorts of vehicles!
..I'm sorry but if you drive so close you need to brake every few seconds you are KN** - made all the more obvious by being in a RR Sport, a car everyone else apart from those who own them loves to hate! And people wonder why there is hostility towards these sorts of vehicles!
carlove said:
...Second is an ignorant knob, ford Mondeo parked on double yellow lines in front of me(facing wrong way) and opposite a queue, I couldn't get past due to queue but he just sat the, put his blue badge on the dashboard and buggered off. I came the opposite way about 20 minutes later, Mondeo still there, cars still unable to get past, not helped by the drivers that don't think to stop early and leave space for cars to pass the Mondeo. I know disabled drivers can stop on double yellows under some circumstances but that can't have been legal.
It isn't legal. It's "causing an obstruction" and disabled or not, it's an offence. An offence that, unlike many decriminalised parking 'offences', can still be dealt with by the police. Disabled or not, parking like a twunt means you ARE a twunt. End of story. I watched one park up in Salisbury recently, just where the road narrows around the corner from Burger King...https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Salisbury,+Wil...
...The vehicle behind him was a double decker bus, whose driver blasted the horn several times before the ignorant old fool quit making a big display out of unfolding his blue badge holder on the dash. Then the stupid old git make a huge show of folding it back up and putting it in the glovebox again, before slowly driving away. I'd left the camera in the car, or else I'd have taken a series of pictures for a thread such as this. The old duffer not only blocked the bus, but also a long queue of cars evidently trying to get out of the city just around closing time at shops and offices. I swear some of them park as badly as they can, to deliberately provoke a response. Just 'because disabled' isn't a valid excuse for behaving like a complete knob. In fact, now that I've added the Streetview link, I've noticed that there are 'No Loading At Any Time' bars in addition to the double yellow lines, which makes it even worse
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