One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

[WD39]

Flibble said:

Cliftonite said:

Exhaust. What a TRD !

Not sure what the knobbish bit is here? Doesn't look like a particularly oversized exhaust.

You could pipe North Sea oil through there.

[Wombat3]

Back to something vaguely car related....

For the tt that rifled my car on my drive last night:

The old TomTom Sat Nav you stole has 2 or 3 year old maps in it & the battery lasts 5 minutes - nonetheless I hope it guides you off a cliff....

.....which hopefully you won't be able to see in time to avoid it because your eyes will have been completely fked from wearing my prescription sunglasses.

wkers

[WD39]

Pan Pan Pan said:

PoleDriver said:

ORD said:

I'm not picking on you here - a genuine question. Why drive below the speed limit if the conditions are safe for 70mph?

Why not?
As the saying goes, "It's a limit, not a target!"

Seriously, not everybody is in a hurry, only those who are self-important!
I don't hang about personally but once I learned the above simple fact my blood pressure dropped to normal levels!

Quite like to see you maintain that attitude if you have four or five hundred miles to cover to reach any appointment at a certain time (even after building in extra time to cover inevitable `legitimate' hold ups that can and usually do arise)
There are enough hold ups on the roads, without someone artificially creating one, because they cannot be a*rsed to drive properly, and either do not see, or worse do not care about the huge queue of drivers built up behind them.
Or how about getting a phone call from a hospital saying your Dad/Mum/ other relative is close to dying, and you want to get there before they do, whilst staying within the posted limits? You may not be in a hurry, but you should realize that there are others on the roads who may have any number of legitimate reasons for wanting to travel at the posted limits, where the vehicle type, road and weather conditions, drivers health and skill level allow.

I drive all over the country to watch football. I know I will not be driving fast so plan for 60/65 most of the way. Other roads it's keeping to the speed limit.

Calculated by the SAT NAV estimate plus added time. Always works.

One of your points is relevant to me though. When my daughter had a riding accident I drove like a lunatic to the hospital. I would suggest that is what most parents would do. But that was a one off.

[ORD]

You've still not answered WHY you would choose to drive at below the posted limit and so become a rolling road block.

[WD39]

ORD said:

You've still not answered WHY you would choose to drive at below the posted limit and so become a rolling road block.

Simple. I choose to drive slower, and have done for many years.

There is always a long gap in front of me to allow OT.

Anyway, 60 / 65 on a MW/DC is not slow, and keeping to the speed limit? Well that really is a no brainer isn't it?

I have never been a rolling road block. If there are cars behind me then I would suggest that are patient, responsible drivers who have no wish to OT me and are happy not to arrive at their destination five minutes early.

Hey, let's all ease off a bit.

[carlove]

I don't see it being a problem WD39 going 60-65 on a motorway, there's three lanes, it's not tricky to pass, if he was going 50 there'd be an issue, but not 65, he's going quicker than the lorries so not making them overtake. I'm more on a long journey the type to set cruise to about 75-80 and just power through.

[Flibble]

WD39 said:

You could pipe North Sea oil through there.

Blimey, you wouldn't like mine then. 4.5" tips.

[ukaskew]

ORD said:

You've still not answered WHY you would choose to drive at below the posted limit and so become a rolling road block.

Why would you be a rolling road block on a DC or MWay?

Anyhow, if you're doing say, 30 miles, 70mph gets you there in 25:42, 65mph gets you there in 27:41. Driving at 65mph is significantly more relaxing than 70mph as already mentioned. I'd take that for the sake of 1 minute 59 seconds, a time which can often be all but wiped out if you then head onto a busy single carriageway.

I only use motorways at weekends heading to Motorsport events, so a few minutes here or there are irrelevant. I know it's not very PH, but recorded MPG is also significantly improved when cruising at 65mph rather than the inevitable back and forth overtaking you can find yourself doing at 70mph ish.

[Tyre Smoke]

WD39 said:

ORD said:

You've still not answered WHY you would choose to drive at below the posted limit and so become a rolling road block.

Simple. I choose to drive slower, and have done for many years.

There is always a long gap in front of me to allow OT.

Anyway, 60 / 65 on a MW/DC is not slow, and keeping to the speed limit? Well that really is a no brainer isn't it?

I have never been a rolling road block. If there are cars behind me then I would suggest that are patient, responsible drivers who have no wish to OT me and are happy not to arrive at their destination five minutes early.

Hey, let's all ease off a bit.

So, I am rushing to the hospital because of some family accident/tragedy, you are on the motorway sailing along at 60 mph and overtaking an artic doing 56mph. On a busy motorway, how long do you think it would be before you have cause a tailback? Less than a minute. I arrive at the hospital too late. All because of you, you self centred smug bell end.

If I choose to drive at the speed limit, I am entitled to. Providing I am not endangering others, etc, etc. You are entitled to drive at whatever speed you deem appropriate, as long as you are not inconveniencing others who wish to go faster. You have no right, moral or legal to forcibly impose your driving style on others.


Do you, perchance drive a) A Citroen Xsara Picasso b) A Honda Jazz c) A Nissan Micra d) An old Rover?

[Europa1]

WD39 said:

Simple. I choose to drive slower, and have done for many years.

There is always a long gap in front of me to allow OT.

Anyway, 60 / 65 on a MW/DC is not slow, and keeping to the speed limit? Well that really is a no brainer isn't it?

I have never been a rolling road block. If there are cars behind me then I would suggest that are patient, responsible drivers who have no wish to OT me and are happy not to arrive at their destination five minutes early.

Hey, let's all ease off a bit.

You'll be suggesting we all join APIS next...

[Byker28i]

Wombat3 said:

Back to something vaguely car related....

For the tt that rifled my car on my drive last night:

The old TomTom Sat Nav you stole has 2 or 3 year old maps in it & the battery lasts 5 minutes - nonetheless I hope it guides you off a cliff....

.....which hopefully you won't be able to see in time to avoid it because your eyes will have been completely fked from wearing my prescription sunglasses.

wkers

My Comiserations. We had ours nicked from the glovebox after they broke in, did 20 cars in the neighbourhood on the same night. Coppers nicked them when the following weekend they broke into a hotel room all the bridal gifts were in whilst the reception continued downstairs. CCTV picked them out, coppers recognised them and went around their houses to a full Aladdin's cave of nicked stuff from all over town.

[Blanchimont]

WD39 said:

Flibble said:

Cliftonite said:

Exhaust. What a TRD !

Not sure what the knobbish bit is here? Doesn't look like a particularly oversized exhaust.

You could pipe North Sea oil through there.

What could you do with mine then?

Linky

[mattyn1]

Apologies but I read this in the tone of Harry Enfield/Paul Whitehouse (slightly edited for fun).

Tyre Smoke said:

Ok, WD39, No!!!!!

So, I am rushing to the hospital because of some family accident/tragedy, you are on the motorway sailing along at 60 mph and overtaking an artic doing 56mph. On a busy motorway, how long do you think it would be before you have cause a tailback? Less than a minute. I arrive at the hospital too late. All because of you, you self centred smug bell end.

If I choose to drive at the speed limit, I am entitled to. Providing I am not endangering others, etc, etc. You are entitled to drive at whatever speed you deem appropriate, as long as you are not inconveniencing others who wish to go faster. You have no right, moral or legal to forcibly impose your driving style on others.


Do you, perchance drive a) A Citroen Xsara Picasso b) A Honda Jazz c) A Nissan Micra d) An old Rover?

In all seriousness as long as he completes overtakes as quickly as legally possible, using the delta from his normal speed to the limit to quickly pass, what's the problem?

Edited by mattyn1 on Tuesday 26th April 08:09

[ukaskew]

Tyre Smoke said:

So, I am rushing to the hospital because of some family accident/tragedy, you are on the motorway sailing along at 60 mph and overtaking an artic doing 56mph. On a busy motorway, how long do you think it would be before you have cause a tailback? Less than a minute. I arrive at the hospital too late. All because of you, you self centred smug bell end.

If I choose to drive at the speed limit, I am entitled to. Providing I am not endangering others, etc, etc. You are entitled to drive at whatever speed you deem appropriate, as long as you are not inconveniencing others who wish to go faster. You have no right, moral or legal to forcibly impose your driving style on others.


Do you, perchance drive a) A Citroen Xsara Picasso b) A Honda Jazz c) A Nissan Micra d) An old Rover?

What the hell? Where did he suggest his moral or legal right over others? As you've said yourself, he is as entitled to drive at 60 as you are at 70, that includes using overtaking lanes when appropriate. By your logic should HGVs never overtake each other?

Passing another vehicle whilst driving 5mph quicker takes no time at all, it's hardly going to appreciably 'inconvenience' others. If anything a driver happy doing 60 is going to be spending a significant amount of time in the left hand lane, a lane massively underused in terms of spreading the load on the motorway network.

Edited by ukaskew on Tuesday 26th April 08:19

[veccy208]

Tyre Smoke said:

So, I am rushing to the hospital because of some family accident/tragedy, you are on the motorway sailing along at 60 mph and overtaking an artic doing 56mph. On a busy motorway, how long do you think it would be before you have cause a tailback? Less than a minute. I arrive at the hospital too late. All because of you, you self centred smug bell end.

If I choose to drive at the speed limit, I am entitled to. Providing I am not endangering others, etc, etc. You are entitled to drive at whatever speed you deem appropriate, as long as you are not inconveniencing others who wish to go faster. You have no right, moral or legal to forcibly impose your driving style on others.


Do you, perchance drive a) A Citroen Xsara Picasso b) A Honda Jazz c) A Nissan Micra d) An old Rover?

Can't believe what I'm reading! The speed limit is a limit as someone has said. It doesn't say you must drive at 60/70. Slow drivers are sometimes annoying when your in a rush but, whether you like it or not, they have every right to do whatever speed they feel comfortable at. Provided they aren't doing 30/40 on a motorway.

[Hol]

veccy208 said:

AH33 said:

You people = The ban crowd.

If you walk past someone outside who's smoking, what are you going to get other than briefly smell a smell you dont like?

I could cope with that but its everywhere I go! I'm constantly getting a face full of sickly smelling vapour or smoke. If its someone's right to smoke surely its my right to walk from work to the train without involuntarily smoking the whole way if you want to look at it that way?

Just Imagine if Jonny Fart Pants was real!





Actually, having a box of matches might come in handy.

[Cliftonite]

The Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP:

• the requirement to place repeat speed limit signs has been removed - now councils can make their own decisions on how many speed limit signs are needed so that drivers know what limits apply

• only 1 sign now needs be installed to show the start of a traffic restriction such as no entry, or no left-turn if it’s safe

Kerrching!

[yellowjack]

Tyre Smoke said:

So, I am rushing to the hospital because of some family accident/tragedy, you are on the motorway sailing along at 60 mph and overtaking an artic doing 56mph. On a busy motorway, how long do you think it would be before you have cause a tailback? Less than a minute. I arrive at the hospital too late. All because of you, you self centred smug bell end.

If I choose to drive at the speed limit, I am entitled to. Providing I am not endangering others, etc, etc. You are entitled to drive at whatever speed you deem appropriate, as long as you are not inconveniencing others who wish to go faster. You have no right, moral or legal to forcibly impose your driving style on others.


Do you, perchance drive a) A Citroen Xsara Picasso b) A Honda Jazz c) A Nissan Micra d) An old Rover?

Absolute bks. Sorry, but you're not "entitled" to drive at the speed limit. It is the legally enforceable maximum speed which you are not permitted to exceed. There are bajillions of variable factors which may preclude you from travelling at the prescribed limit. You don't get to ignore all the other st that's going on in the world and just focus on the limit, and to suggest that 1 person travelling at less than the limit could be a cause of significant delay is pretty silly.

Case in point? This morning I drove a road that I drive 4 or 5 times a week. It has a speed limit of 30 miles per hour. Recently reduced from 40 miles per hour. I value my license, and it's lack of penalty points, so I obey the speed limit - often by using my electronic speed limiter. This morning, even with the limiter set, I was driving below it because I detest having to drive directly behind anyone, at ANY speed. I like to make my own driving decisions, not have someone else decide when I ought to brake, or how late I should apply the throttle exiting a bend. So there was a wee convoy up ahead, doing that 'concertina' thing that drivers do when they leave insufficient clear space between cars. My speed was about 25mph, the distance between me and the convoy? About 300 metres. So I was tailgated aggressively by some oaf in a mid-sized white van. Each time the 'convoy' reached a roundabout or one of it's number wanted to turn left or right, the convoy slowed and I began to close up. But here's the thing - each time the gap closed, I kept driving, kept moving forward, sometimes at the same constant, predictable, lower-than-the-limit speed as I was, sometimes with just a throttle lift to briefly slow. Then the gap would increase again. Van man was getting visibly irate, leaning to his right to look down the road. But he was too close to my rear end to take advantage of the large number of overtakes that were available. His problem, not mine. Anyway, we get to the end of the stretch, and the point of the tale. I turned left (1st exit) at the 'big' roundabout, which doesn't really involve entering the roundabout at all, as it has it's own lane onto the adjoining DC. Him in the van? Joins the bulk of the traffic queuing to go right at the roundabout, the traffic that formed the wee convoy I'd avoided joining. So even if I'd closed up tight and caused myself needless stress by not having that safe, relaxing gap, he would not have been a single millimetre further forward on the road after I turned off. But I'll bet he'll regale his workmates with tales of the "self-centered, smug bell-end" in the Mondeo who made him late for work this morning...

[Tyre Smoke]

veccy208 said:

Tyre Smoke said:

So, I am rushing to the hospital because of some family accident/tragedy, you are on the motorway sailing along at 60 mph and overtaking an artic doing 56mph. On a busy motorway, how long do you think it would be before you have cause a tailback? Less than a minute. I arrive at the hospital too late. All because of you, you self centred smug bell end.

If I choose to drive at the speed limit, I am entitled to. Providing I am not endangering others, etc, etc. You are entitled to drive at whatever speed you deem appropriate, as long as you are not inconveniencing others who wish to go faster. You have no right, moral or legal to forcibly impose your driving style on others.


Do you, perchance drive a) A Citroen Xsara Picasso b) A Honda Jazz c) A Nissan Micra d) An old Rover?

Can't believe what I'm reading! The speed limit is a limit as someone has said. It doesn't say you must drive at 60/70. Slow drivers are sometimes annoying when your in a rush but, whether you like it or not, they have every right to do whatever speed they feel comfortable at. Provided they aren't doing 30/40 on a motorway.

Which is what I said. But he/she also said what if there is a long tailback behind me? I leave enough room in front for people to overtake.

Two points here, it's not always possible to safely overtake some one doing 50 in a nsl. And secondly, if there is a long tailback it would suggest he/she is causing inconvenience to other road users and is a mobile chicane.

[anonymous-user]

Cliftonite said:

The Rt Hon Patrick McLoughlin MP:

• the requirement to place repeat speed limit signs has been removed - now councils can make their own decisions on how many speed limit signs are needed so that drivers know what limits apply

• only 1 sign now needs be installed to show the start of a traffic restriction such as no entry, or no left-turn if it’s safe

Kerrching!

He didn't develop the plan. He signed it off following a large, well-publicised request for input on the previous TSRGD from those who know it and use it every day, other relevant interested parties, road "enthusiast" groups etc. It's been going on for the last couple of years.