One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
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WaferThinHam said:
To the knob jocket in the Qashqai. I overtook a lorry in an NSL on the R1. Got back over to my own side of the road to realise the Quashiqai coming the the other way was flashing me. I had enough time on my own side of the road to choose between my usual how many flashes can I get back, or a cheery wave. I went with the cheery wave, which they saw and gave me the wker back. People are weird.
Also another knob jockey in his Golf R (or other "fast" Golf). Coming off of a roundabout under the A5 in MK, it feeds from 2 lanes down to 1. He clearly didn't like me carrying more speed off of the roundabout meaning I could slot in between him and the car in front. More horn and lights. Shouldn't have left a gap if you didn't want me to fill it.
What is it about Milton Keynes that means it's a by word for crap driving.
Yeah. Also another knob jockey in his Golf R (or other "fast" Golf). Coming off of a roundabout under the A5 in MK, it feeds from 2 lanes down to 1. He clearly didn't like me carrying more speed off of the roundabout meaning I could slot in between him and the car in front. More horn and lights. Shouldn't have left a gap if you didn't want me to fill it.
What is it about Milton Keynes that means it's a by word for crap driving.
Anyone leaving a deliberate safe breaking distance between themselves and the car in front, and daring to get upset when a motorcyclist decides to pull in an brake hard making two or more vehicles brake in avoidance.
Alex_225 said:
People that don't grasp that you give way to people who are already on a roundabout.
Number of people you see steaming up to a roundabout with no intention to stop and then have a flap when there's a car already on it.
People seem to assume right of way is black and white. Like people coming up hills when the obstruction is on their side of the road etc.
Read the highway code. you give way to the right. If you enter the roundabout when a car is approaching from the right and cause a collision, its your fault.Number of people you see steaming up to a roundabout with no intention to stop and then have a flap when there's a car already on it.
People seem to assume right of way is black and white. Like people coming up hills when the obstruction is on their side of the road etc.
Edit - That came out a bit sharper than meant. A car recently pulled out on me at a mini roundabout as I was approaching it I emergency braked and sounded the horn. He wound his window down and shouted that he was already on the roundabout as if it excused him not giving way.
Edited by grayze on Sunday 3rd July 19:36
Not car related...
Family members Mrs that nobody likes but are forced to interact with to keep the peace. Fired out a sprog 2+ years ago and was given a council house and a range of benefits.
Does my nut in every time I see her scrounging face - constantly complaining about the house, whinging at having to pay rent for "her" house with "her money". Barking orders at the family member who's too blind to realise she's an utter waste of space and he could do 100x better.
Nobody dare tell her how it is for fear of causing WW3. I have to bite my tongue constantly when all I want to do is say "look love, if you don't like it get off your fat lazy arse and find a job instead of sitting around on your throne barking orders at him like Jabba the Hutt all day. This isn't your fooking house either, it's more mine then it'll ever be yours since I'm the one paying tax. Sort your fooking life out".
Family members Mrs that nobody likes but are forced to interact with to keep the peace. Fired out a sprog 2+ years ago and was given a council house and a range of benefits.
Does my nut in every time I see her scrounging face - constantly complaining about the house, whinging at having to pay rent for "her" house with "her money". Barking orders at the family member who's too blind to realise she's an utter waste of space and he could do 100x better.
Nobody dare tell her how it is for fear of causing WW3. I have to bite my tongue constantly when all I want to do is say "look love, if you don't like it get off your fat lazy arse and find a job instead of sitting around on your throne barking orders at him like Jabba the Hutt all day. This isn't your fooking house either, it's more mine then it'll ever be yours since I'm the one paying tax. Sort your fooking life out".
Going onto a motorway, there's a brown Honda Jazz in lane one with plenty of room to move over but he doesn't, I relise he's going about 55, so I decide to move straight into the middle lane to pass him, as I go into the middle lane he also moves over for no obvious reason, unfortunately there was traffic in lane 3 so I had to brake behind him, flashed a few times but he wouldn't move back over, once I'd passed for about 5 miles he was still causing chaos in the middle lane.
grayze said:
Alex_225 said:
People that don't grasp that you give way to people who are already on a roundabout.
Number of people you see steaming up to a roundabout with no intention to stop and then have a flap when there's a car already on it.
People seem to assume right of way is black and white. Like people coming up hills when the obstruction is on their side of the road etc.
Read the highway code. you give way to the right. If you enter the roundabout when a car is approaching from the right and cause a collision, its your fault.Number of people you see steaming up to a roundabout with no intention to stop and then have a flap when there's a car already on it.
People seem to assume right of way is black and white. Like people coming up hills when the obstruction is on their side of the road etc.
Edit - That came out a bit sharper than meant. A car recently pulled out on me at a mini roundabout as I was approaching it I emergency braked and sounded the horn. He wound his window down and shouted that he was already on the roundabout as if it excused him not giving way.
Edited by grayze on Sunday 3rd July 19:36
Highway Code said:
When reaching the roundabout you should
give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
matchmaker said:
grayze said:
Alex_225 said:
People that don't grasp that you give way to people who are already on a roundabout.
Number of people you see steaming up to a roundabout with no intention to stop and then have a flap when there's a car already on it.
People seem to assume right of way is black and white. Like people coming up hills when the obstruction is on their side of the road etc.
Read the highway code. you give way to the right. If you enter the roundabout when a car is approaching from the right and cause a collision, its your fault.Number of people you see steaming up to a roundabout with no intention to stop and then have a flap when there's a car already on it.
People seem to assume right of way is black and white. Like people coming up hills when the obstruction is on their side of the road etc.
Edit - That came out a bit sharper than meant. A car recently pulled out on me at a mini roundabout as I was approaching it I emergency braked and sounded the horn. He wound his window down and shouted that he was already on the roundabout as if it excused him not giving way.
Edited by grayze on Sunday 3rd July 19:36
Highway Code said:
When reaching the roundabout you should
give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware they may not be signalling correctly or at all
grayze said:
So, where does it say I give way? It's common sense to "watch out for other traffic" and behave accordingly . Please read the original post.
You give way to people on the roundabout to your right. That's not the same as giving way to people to your right who are not yet on the roundabout.It's the same as turning left onto a major road from a side road. You are essentially giving way to people coming from your right, ie people "upstream" of you. That doesn't mean that people entering the same major road from a side road to your right have any priority over you before they have joined the main road.
Mave said:
grayze said:
So, where does it say I give way? It's common sense to "watch out for other traffic" and behave accordingly . Please read the original post.
You give way to people on the roundabout to your right. That's not the same as giving way to people to your right who are not yet on the roundabout.It's the same as turning left onto a major road from a side road. You are essentially giving way to people coming from your right, ie people "upstream" of you. That doesn't mean that people entering the same major road from a side road to your right have any priority over you before they have joined the main road.
There's a mini roundabout near where I live where a local road and a main road meet. When joining from the local road in one direction you give way to the main road, and it's also hampered vision. This is made fifty times worse by the drivers on the main road not even braking when they hit the roundabout. V dangerous. Yes you need to give way to them, but they need to make it a lot safer an interaction.
grayze said:
Mave said:
grayze said:
So, where does it say I give way? It's common sense to "watch out for other traffic" and behave accordingly . Please read the original post.
You give way to people on the roundabout to your right. That's not the same as giving way to people to your right who are not yet on the roundabout.It's the same as turning left onto a major road from a side road. You are essentially giving way to people coming from your right, ie people "upstream" of you. That doesn't mean that people entering the same major road from a side road to your right have any priority over you before they have joined the main road.
It's a rule about roundabout traffic, not a rule about traffic not yet on the roundabout.
Having said that... most of us will still give way to car on the right, if we both arrive at the same time, as being IN the right, is NOT always the most sensible approach. Sometimes its still better to wait and slot in behind.
Yesterday morning on A406, having to undertake three separate cars in a 15 min period because they were glued to the outside lane at speeds between 40-50 mph refusing to move into a clear L1.
And last night on A12 being passed on both sides by two BMWs racing at speeds probably 30-40mph over the limit. The one undertaking shot between a car in L1, me in L2 and a car ahead of me in L2 while flying into L3 behind its mate.
They then went 30 secs up the road and sat in a queue on the slip road.
I really wish I had a dash cam so I could send that to the old bill.
And last night on A12 being passed on both sides by two BMWs racing at speeds probably 30-40mph over the limit. The one undertaking shot between a car in L1, me in L2 and a car ahead of me in L2 while flying into L3 behind its mate.
They then went 30 secs up the road and sat in a queue on the slip road.
I really wish I had a dash cam so I could send that to the old bill.
Hol said:
grayze said:
Mave said:
grayze said:
So, where does it say I give way? It's common sense to "watch out for other traffic" and behave accordingly . Please read the original post.
You give way to people on the roundabout to your right. That's not the same as giving way to people to your right who are not yet on the roundabout.It's the same as turning left onto a major road from a side road. You are essentially giving way to people coming from your right, ie people "upstream" of you. That doesn't mean that people entering the same major road from a side road to your right have any priority over you before they have joined the main road.
It's a rule about roundabout traffic, not a rule about traffic not yet on the roundabout.
Having said that... most of us will still give way to car on the right, if we both arrive at the same time, as being IN the right, is NOT always the most sensible approach. Sometimes its still better to wait and slot in behind.
So the rule is simple give way to the right.
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