One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

[ManOpener]

BigLion said:

Your username alone tells me what I need to know about you...

...your beloved partner who I'm hoping he is more of a bloke than you and can explain...

Yep, you really are a fking moron.

[Alex_225]

Joining the M4 from the M25 on Saturday morning.

I'm joining from the right hand slip road as there's two. Just as I'm approaching the end of the slip road, brainiac in her VW Polo deems it the ideal time to merge left from the middle lane!! So just as I'm crossing the dotted lines she's making her way towards me, absolutely no need to merge at all and clearly can't see a big silver saloon just ahead of her.

Glad diesels have plenty of guts as I accelerated and carried on. Just don't understand why you'd choose to merge left as cars are joining. I'm aware that slip roads have give way lines so she had no obligation to move over but to move back just makes no sense to me at all!!

[Hackney]

BigLion said:

I am really, i just call it how it is - some people are sheep like and lack an internal thought process and hence can react negatively to it. Like the amber light, it's not dangerous to go through and no one is able to say why, but in sheep like monotony they all have to disagree and then get personal.

I guess being non-conventional and independent in my thoughts and subsequent conclusions has proved valuable to myself...I can post my car garage on here but what does that prove in terms of my point etc. etc.

You say "non-conventional and independent", I say committing an endorsable offence

"...the mere fact that the lights were not red, does not provide you with a defence. If you crossed on amber, you have still committed the offence, unless you can show that it was unsafe to stop. If the Police Officer can convince the Court that there was no reason why you should not have been able to stop on amber, you could be convicted."

[Hackney]

Two knobs from last night's journey up the M1

Knob 1 - Megane Estate, got pipped by 3 separate cars (the last being me) as he swerved from lane 1 to 4 in gaps that were too small. When he cut me up I pipped and he sarcastically waved a hand while simultaneously brake testing me. At the first opportunity I moved to lane 3. A mile or so up the road my lane was moving quicker than lane 4 and I passed him. Shortly after he swerved in behind me, then to lane 2 and 1 as lanes 3 and 4 made more progress. So, his lunatic antics had absolutely zero effect and (as proved time and time again in rush hour M1 traffic) staying in one lane would have been just as quick

Knob 2 - as I passed J11 and J12 I was aware of a Mercedes C class coupe (one of those that reps get when the company is too tight to get a proper C class) weaving in and out of traffic behind me. By the time we got to J12 the traffic had eased a bit and I could make progress. The Mercedes was behind me by some distance only catching me when I eased off for other traffic to clear. About a mile before the exit to J13 the hardshoulder / L1 becomes one lane of the junction, and about 3 hundred yards before the junction there's a "normal" slip road which I tend to take as I'm turning right at the roundabout at the top of the slip. I'd moved into L2 and was passed by the Merc who then cut inbetween a car and lorry ahead of me to take the same slip road. He may have gone over the hatching, I can't be sure.
At the roundabout I saw that he'd been making these idiot moves while holding a phone to his ear. While on the roundabout he (in the wrong lane) managed to pip me (in the right lane) too. With one hand on the phone I'm not sure how he managed that.

Is it worth a name and shame thread, with the long term aim of creating an app which would use the database to alert drivers when one of these idiots is in the vicinity?

[yellowjack]

Not one thing, but...

1. Stupid fat middle aged white women in Fiat Pandas so busy stuffing toasted sandwiches into their already overstuffed ugly puss that they *Fail to give way at a roundabout. *Fail to stop at a pedestrian traffic light that has been red for enough time that those pesky peds have started to cross *Fail to keep their car in lane on a roundabout, wandering into the lane to her left while attempting to turn right. *Fail to respond in a timely manner when tooted at at the next roundabout for being an obese munter who cannot properly control her car at said roundabout. (She took what seemed like ages to feebly return the long horn blast of the big BMW she nearly drove into the side of)

After the first two incidents, which happened directly ahead of me, I was in the mood to rip open her door and fling her fking toastie into the middle of next week. Fortunately for her (and probably for my criminal record) the next set of lights was at green, and traffic at the roundabout was flowing freely.

2. The gormless bespectacled middle aged Asian fella in some ghastly Nissan 'mini-MPV' thing who was behind me coming off the Farnborough Gate roundabout. Listen, fkstick. No matter how fking close to the rear of my car you drive, there isn't any way I can speed up beyond my current 22mph BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AHEAD YOU UTTER TARD. I'd dearly love to achieve at least the 30mph speed limit here, but unless you can 'beam me up' to a point on the road ahead of this traffic, then we're both just going to have to suck it up and deal with the (minuscule, in the grand scheme of things) delay to our journeys. If I'd have needed to stop, there's no way he could have, as he'd have been parked in my boot before his 'thinking time' was up. Aggravated by the fact that this aggressive tailgating ended abruptly half way along this stretch of road. Learned his lesson? Realised it was futile? Nope. He stopped to turn right into the new business park. Why the juddering fk would anyone riskily tailgate other traffic when they're within 500 yards of their destination? Beggars belief.

I'm heartily sick of being tailgated down this road, by the way. It's featured in this thread before. So I'd like to announce to any PHers who are too dim to notice the new road signs (and feel free to pass it on to friends and family, folks)...

HAWLEY LANE, FROM THE FARNBOROUGH GATE ROUNDABOUT TO WELL BEYOND 'ROPERS TYRES' AND THE 'NEW INN' IS A THIRTY MILES PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT. IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. I KNOW THAT IT USED TO BE FORTY MILES PER HOUR DOWN THERE, BUT I DON'T MAKE THE RULES AND I'M AS FRUSTRATED BY IT AS YOU ARE. BUT I'VE LAUNDERED THE POINTS OFF MY LICENSE, IT'S CLEAN NOW, AND I AIM TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. YOU WANT TO GO FASTER? SIMPLE - OVERTAKE, I WON'T STAND IN YOUR WAY. YOU CANNOT, OR DO NOT WANT TO OVERTAKE? THEN BACK THE FK OFF. EASY PEASY.

[BigLion]

Mave said:

BigLion said:

Mave said:

BigLion said:

Anyhow Mr Council Estate let me try to simplify things for you - IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH AN AMBER LIGHT THE OTHER SET OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS WILL BE ON RED.

And similarly if you drive through a red + amber, then the other lights will be red. Are you saying it's not dangerous to go through a red + amber either?

I never said I drive through a RED and AMBER Mavis - I said AMBER ffs?

It's perfectly sensible logic. If you believe that it's ok to go through an amber just before it turns red on the basis that the opposing lights are red, then why isn't it equally ok to go through a red+amber just before it turns green on the basis that the opposing lights are red?

Mavis, I stick to what I said and you continue to make up whatever fairly tale you want in your own mind to try to now back peddle on the debate you and countless on here lost. I would not go through red and amber for obvious reasons and hence why I never stated it.

[BigLion]

Hackney said:

BigLion said:

I am really, i just call it how it is - some people are sheep like and lack an internal thought process and hence can react negatively to it. Like the amber light, it's not dangerous to go through and no one is able to say why, but in sheep like monotony they all have to disagree and then get personal.

I guess being non-conventional and independent in my thoughts and subsequent conclusions has proved valuable to myself...I can post my car garage on here but what does that prove in terms of my point etc. etc.

You say "non-conventional and independent", I say committing an endorsable offence

"...the mere fact that the lights were not red, does not provide you with a defence. If you crossed on amber, you have still committed the offence, unless you can show that it was unsafe to stop. If the Police Officer can convince the Court that there was no reason why you should not have been able to stop on amber, you could be convicted."

What, you mean like going over the speed limit a tad? I don't think you're on the right website?

[BigLion]

Anyhow, now we've ascertained I'm right, I will post no further to allow this thread to get back on topic. Cue the losers who will try to come back with a smart arse comment to try to save a bit of face!!!

[mandos_01]

Tailgater said:

Arab. Us asians dont hire cars. We usually use our relatives car' and it is parked right in front of the hall, and not touched until well past the end of the wedding.

Weddings are parties in Asian culture, but not much alcohol but rather a lot of Pepsi and 7up.

Ever been to a Punjabi wedding ?

[Mave]

BigLion said:

Mavis, I stick to what I said and you continue to make up whatever fairly tale you want in your own mind to try to now back peddle on the debate you and countless on here lost. I would not go through red and amber for obvious reasons and hence why I never stated it.

Sounds like you're the one back pedalling by avoiding and ignoring the point. The reasons for not going through a red+ amber before it turns green are identical to the reasons for not going through an amber before it turns red. One is as dangerous as the other, so there is no obvious reason why you would do one but not the other. Hopefully you work that before you charge through a junction just as someone is chancing it the other way.

[AW111]

BigLion said:

Anyhow, now we've ascertained I'm right, I will post no further to allow this thread to get back on topic. Cue the losers who will try to come back with a smart arse comment to try to save a bit of face!!!

Why thank you for the invite, kind sir.

Angry aggressive self-important poster is angry aggressive self-important driver.
Who would have guessed?

[Mandalore]

Anyone who thinks that collectively bleating on (and on, and on) about amber lights in the vain attempt to convince us through repetition that running a Red light is equitable.

Yes, they are both dumb, yes they both involve a failure of the highway code.
But driving through a red light, when you know that the opposing lane is already green, is so very much worse, and totally inexcusable.


Sorry to burst your bubble, but we weren't born yesterday and can easily recognise a deliberate smokescreen when we see one.

Why not do everyone with a modicum of road sense a favour and stop defending the red light morons.

[Hackney]

BigLion said:

Mave said:

BigLion said:

Mave said:

BigLion said:

Anyhow Mr Council Estate let me try to simplify things for you - IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH AN AMBER LIGHT THE OTHER SET OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS WILL BE ON RED.

And similarly if you drive through a red + amber, then the other lights will be red. Are you saying it's not dangerous to go through a red + amber either?

I never said I drive through a RED and AMBER Mavis - I said AMBER ffs?

It's perfectly sensible logic. If you believe that it's ok to go through an amber just before it turns red on the basis that the opposing lights are red, then why isn't it equally ok to go through a red+amber just before it turns green on the basis that the opposing lights are red?

Mavis, I stick to what I said and you continue to make up whatever fairly tale you want in your own mind to try to now back peddle on the debate you and countless on here lost. I would not go through red and amber for obvious reasons and hence why I never stated it.

OK, you wanted to know why it was dangerous to do what you do. Here's why.....
Imagine someone like you is approaching the same junction, at the same time, using the same logic...

[spookly]

Mave said:

Sounds like you're the one back pedalling by avoiding and ignoring the point. The reasons for not going through a red+ amber before it turns green are identical to the reasons for not going through an amber before it turns red. One is as dangerous as the other, so there is no obvious reason why you would do one but not the other. Hopefully you work that before you charge through a junction just as someone is chancing it the other way.

Kind of.
But I'd say red+amber is probably more dangerous as there is more often lingering traffic from the other lights changing to red.... whereas with an amber the other lights have been red for some time and aren't as likely to have traffic lingering in the junction. Might be marginal, but one is a bit less risky than the other.

[Jim AK]

Hackney said:

BigLion said:

Mave said:

BigLion said:

Mave said:

BigLion said:

Anyhow Mr Council Estate let me try to simplify things for you - IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH AN AMBER LIGHT THE OTHER SET OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS WILL BE ON RED.

And similarly if you drive through a red + amber, then the other lights will be red. Are you saying it's not dangerous to go through a red + amber either?

I never said I drive through a RED and AMBER Mavis - I said AMBER ffs?

It's perfectly sensible logic. If you believe that it's ok to go through an amber just before it turns red on the basis that the opposing lights are red, then why isn't it equally ok to go through a red+amber just before it turns green on the basis that the opposing lights are red?

Mavis, I stick to what I said and you continue to make up whatever fairly tale you want in your own mind to try to now back peddle on the debate you and countless on here lost. I would not go through red and amber for obvious reasons and hence why I never stated it.

OK, you wanted to know why it was dangerous to do what you do. Here's why.....
Imagine someone like you is approaching the same junction, at the same time, using the same logic...

Oh ffs!

I went on holiday 10 days ago & some Cock socket was defending running lights......... & still, despite a plethora of reasons why it's wrong, said Cock socket is still trying to defend it.

Arguing it's not wrong is like having to explain the joke once told!

[Hugo a Gogo]

lights aren't both amber from different angles at the same time though...

[Phon_E87]

Um...
...What's wrong with running lights?

[Monkeylegend]

Phon_E87 said:

Um...
...What's wrong with running lights?

Daytime.. nothing, I love them.

[AJXX1]

Two this morning;

The utter tard in the miserable grey coloured Qashqai so fixated with being in L2 that he left it to the last possible second to get into L1 to take the slip road, nearly wiping me out in the process. Instead of fighting your way over, how about you just... dare it say it... drive in L1 *gasp* for a mere few minutes to ensure you're in the correct lane for the road your taking? I notice as soon as we're on the slip road he's back in his default position once again of L2. Utter gimp, don't these people realise that it's completely legal to drive in L1!

The second was some daft bint in some sort of bright red Honda/Citroen 1 litre tin can coming around a large roundabout at speed without indicating. Yes I pulled out because A) It was clear when I looked and B) When you did appear out of nowhere at the speed of a rocket launch, I was already on the roundabout and you weren't even indicating so I just assumed you where heading straight on! C) The excessive (and rather pathetic sounding high pitched) horn beeping wasn't really necessary as I'd already cleared the roundabout before you where anywhere near me.

May I suggest you check your privilege? Perhaps next time you'll avoid racing around roundabouts at speed without indicating else I suspect that tin can will become your coffin, I'd imagine it wouldn't take much and would crumble like a cardboard box.

Edited by AJXX1 on Tuesday 23 August 23:58

[Phon_E87]

Monkeylegend said:

Daytime.. nothing, I love them.

Mine came with an option to have the lights on all the time, so clearly I had to tick that menu setting. Why would they provide if you can't use it?
My mates call them "bully lights" lol.