One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

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WD39

20,083 posts

117 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Hackney said:
Blown2CV said:
bmw535i said:
WD39 said:
This was in all the papers this week, so it must be true.

Briefly: 'Older drivers are not a danger to other road users. They have years of experience to draw on so are, on the whole, safer drivers. It is the younger drivers who cause the problems'.

(Of course there will be some poor senior drivers.)
As we've already established.

Slow does not translate to safe
clearly utter bks. Older people have a greater period of experience in many things than young people, but that isn't the point. Decline in senses and awareness, hand-eye-coordination, reaction times, dexterity and adeptness are the issues. These all trump "experience". As people age they get worse at many things. They also have a tendency to slow in their learning and adapting to changes going on around them i.e. they still drive like they did in 1962. Also many older drivers and driving slowly not because that's what they choose to do, but because they are panicking and stressed.
Do you have a source for that research?
I read that in the Daily Mail. They did quote the august body that performed the research, but sadly I can't recall.

But as usual in these things it was probably the 'university of Middle Wallop' or somesuch place.

But, as a 'senior' driver, I believe every word.

jogger1976

1,251 posts

127 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I've seen some knobs lately, but this week I really think the lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

On Monday, the obese woman in the c max who booted it through a 30 limiit near a local school.Ignoring the keep left sign. While on the phone.Said heffalump then double parked on zigzags outside the school where she dropped her equally fat offspring. To comfirm what absolute scum she was she chucked a load of rubbish out her window as she pulled off.

The gentleman who was casually cycling the wrong way up the A1southbound slip road on Thursday rushour while on the phone.

The driver of the stheap Focus who drove the wrong way down the slip road of the A414 near Hertford this lunchtime.

The stupid fking moron who decided to come to a complete stop at the off slip of the A1 at Borehamwood to look at her sat nav. The stupid bh then tried to perform a U turn and nearly collide with a recovery truck!!!

The absolute wker in the S Max mini cab who cut me up at a junction, then drove at15mph through a40 limit,then slammed on his anchors and performed an illegal u turn cutting up a school bus in the process. Stupid tt then parked on zigzags zags by a zebra crossing on the phone.FFS!!!

TwyRob

312 posts

112 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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The prize for lunatic of the day goes to the driver of the red Octavia VRS that behaved like a total lunatic today.

He was following me out of Nettlebed towards Reading and we came across a slow motorbike sitting on the centre line, going at about 35 in a 60. I did mirror, signal and then final mirror check to see him going for the overtake. Fair enough, I aborted.

He also aborted and flashed for me to go, however I was unable to then see far enough ahead because of low trees over a gentle dip and the moment was gone. So far so good, frustrating yes but opportunities come again after the next village. He proceeded to drive on the wrong side of the road behind me in the 30 limit, pushing us along in a weird kind of way, so I slowed to just below 30 while the bike headed off at 40 ish. He pulled in. Towards the end of the 30 there is a straight bit past houses before the NSL, he chose to pass here and then sit across the centre line behind the bike until the NSL, passing on a slight right hander past a junction. I may have given coffee beans TBH when he passed me.

Then, after I passed the bike myself and continued at my normal rapid pace to the next 30 I caught him a little before it. We were then behind a fiesta in the 30, doing 30. Fine you would think. Not for this idiot, he had to pass the Fiesta and then head off doing at least double the limit.

I am left thinking, did he get in a rage because of the overtake fail? Does he have an important drug deal to get to? I don't know but if you see a red Skoda VRS on a personalised plate driving near Henley-on-Thames just let him get on with it as he is nuts!

carlove

7,572 posts

168 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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A middle aged man wearing a baseball cap in a white Kia Sportage. Held the horn down at a Golf who didn't move 0.01 seconds after the light turned green, then overtook the golf (busy urban 30 limit, golf was going 25, Kia must have gone 40 plus after overtaking) again holding down the horn. The Golf then turned off and I was back behind the Kia, we reached some traffic lights and he didn't move straight away when the light turned green, so after a couple of seconds I thought it'd be rude not to give him a quick blast of the horn. Made him jump and he stalled. laugh

Not long after the Kia sat inches from the back of a Zafira who was going 35 in a different 30 road, Zafira turned off as road became 40 and the Kia went at least 50. Prick

Trabi601

4,865 posts

96 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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The 2 families on the Stena Britannica this morning who ignored 3 calls for car drivers to return to their cars for a 6.30am disembarkation, turning up 15-20 minutes later, having caused utter chaos on the car deck as they were near the front and therefore blocking 2 lanes of cars from exiting.

I'll give a special mention to the family in a Kia estate, who not only turned up 15 minutes late, but then proceeded to rearrange their entire boot to get their vastly oversized overnight bags in the car... I know young kids bring extra hassle when travelling, but you really should arrange your time so that you don't hold up dozens of others.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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Ten o'clock last night, heading south on the A5, the young lad in front of me is driving his 66 plate new toy with no lights whatsoever, the only glimmer of light I can see is his iPhone in his left hand, resting on the top of the steering wheel, while he swipes the screen with his right hand. I flash him several times to alert him to his nefarious driving habit but it makes not a jot of difference, neither do the numerous vehicles attempts at doing the same thing, coming towards him. At the bottom of the A5 he peels off to go up the tightly curving slip road onto the M1 southbound as I pass him on the right to head towards St.Albans, I have a brief look across as I do so and he still has his eyes glued to facebook, how the hell he managed to get that far without taking someone out I'll never know. Twunt of the first water!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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My colleague is a knob.

Spent the last month moaning at work that he 'will never get on the property ladder' as he supposedly can't afford a deposit - he currently earns circa £30k a year.

Said colleague happens to own a personalised number plate bought by a relative, which at a look on dvla, was sold for £5k at auction back in 2004 and, at a guess, is now worth....? £15k-20k ?? It's a very desirable dateless plate, few digits, popular letters and number... Maybe £30k+ If on newreg.

But of course keeping the plate and not owning that house is the best thing to do and moaning about the lack of deposit

Alex_225

6,264 posts

202 months

Saturday 24th September 2016
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carlove said:
A middle aged man wearing a baseball cap in a white Kia Sportage. Held the horn down at a Golf who didn't move 0.01 seconds after the light turned green, then overtook the golf (busy urban 30 limit, golf was going 25, Kia must have gone 40 plus after overtaking) again holding down the horn. The Golf then turned off and I was back behind the Kia, we reached some traffic lights and he didn't move straight away when the light turned green, so after a couple of seconds I thought it'd be rude not to give him a quick blast of the horn. Made him jump and he stalled. laugh

Not long after the Kia sat inches from the back of a Zafira who was going 35 in a different 30 road, Zafira turned off as road became 40 and the Kia went at least 50. Prick
How immature, I meant really.........i'd have totally done the dame thing!! hahaha That did make me smile.

sticks090460

1,079 posts

159 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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The Addison Lee driver in the outside lane of the M25 between the M11 and A13 at around 1pm today doing 75-ish, then anchoring up to 65 every time they went under a gantry, thus causing carnage for those following. I was to your left so it didn't affect me, but you are a fking menace who should not be allowed on the road.

SlimJim16v

5,679 posts

144 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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People who approach the mini roundabout outside my house, from the right, which means you can only go straight ahead or turn left, but indicate right and go straight on. Retards.

silverfoxcc

7,690 posts

146 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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SlimJim16v said:
People who approach the mini roundabout outside my house, from the right, which means you can only go straight ahead or turn left, but indicate right and go straight on. Retards.
Agreed
I oinly indicate on those when the road i wish to go down is on the right, otherwise its a T junction with a bump in the middle and the 'straight bit was the main road before they changed it.
However it all goes tits up when there is on mini one near me that has roads approaching at 12, 4 and 8 in this case i indicate whatever road i am approaching on

Te other one has roads at 11,1 and 6. so coming along the 11 approach you have ROW on those on the 1 appraoch, only yhey think it is theor ROW and not always stop, this is compounded by a very short angle of view from both roads. I do go very gently on that one


WD39

20,083 posts

117 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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SlimJim16v said:
People who approach the mini roundabout outside my house, from the right, which means you can only go straight ahead or turn left, but indicate right and go straight on. Retards.
I do believe that we must treat a 'mini' the same as a regular RAB, so indicating is required. If you are proceding 'straight on' then a left indication would be nice to let all around you, pedestrians, cyclists etc, what your intentions are.

But yes, the example you give would be incorrect.

Then again, who indicates at RAB these days?

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Kierkegaard said:
My colleague is a knob.

Spent the last month moaning at work that he 'will never get on the property ladder' as he supposedly can't afford a deposit - he currently earns circa £30k a year.

Said colleague happens to own a personalised number plate bought by a relative, which at a look on dvla, was sold for £5k at auction back in 2004 and, at a guess, is now worth....? £15k-20k ?? It's a very desirable dateless plate, few digits, popular letters and number... Maybe £30k+ If on newreg.

But of course keeping the plate and not owning that house is the best thing to do and moaning about the lack of deposit
i think maybe you're a bit naive about the economics of cherished registrations if you think they actually increase in value at all, let alone 600%

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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SlimJim16v said:
People who approach the mini roundabout outside my house, from the right, which means you can only go straight ahead or turn left, but indicate right and go straight on. Retards.
Surely that leaves no ambiguity as to their intentions? No indication; no idea which way they're going so I'll pull out regardless. Indicating right; must be going straight over.

There are retards out there that will assume as they see no indicator that that car will take the first exit rather than go straight ahead and therefore just pull out.

I'll indicate in those circumstances just to make sure e.g. there's a sharp bend in my area with a road that joins from the outside which has the give way markings. You can never tell if the driver waiting at that line is either just checking the other way is clear and is about to pull out in front of you or actually realises you have priority when travelling round the corner and is going to stay put. Indicating, even though you're not turning through a junction, is sometimes prudent there.

Always assume every other driver is fking idiot and you won't go far wrong.

SlimJim16v

5,679 posts

144 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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WD39 said:
I do believe that we must treat a 'mini' the same as a regular RAB, so indicating is required. If you are proceding 'straight on' then a left indication would be nice to let all around you, pedestrians, cyclists etc, what your intentions are.

But yes, the example you give would be incorrect.

Then again, who indicates at RAB these days?
If going on an obvious straight on on a mini, then I don't indicate. If a car isn't indicating in most situations, it's going (should be) straight on.

If I'm either right or left, I'll indicate.

But yes, most people are too lazy/stupid/ignorant to indicate correctly.

WD39

20,083 posts

117 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Centurion07 said:
SlimJim16v said:
People who approach the mini roundabout outside my house, from the right, which means you can only go straight ahead or turn left, but indicate right and go straight on. Retards.
Surely that leaves no ambiguity as to their intentions? No indication; no idea which way they're going so I'll pull out regardless. Indicating right; must be going straight over.

There are retards out there that will assume as they see no indicator that that car will take the first exit rather than go straight ahead and therefore just pull out.

I'll indicate in those circumstances just to make sure e.g. there's a sharp bend in my area with a road that joins from the outside which has the give way markings. You can never tell if the driver waiting at that line is either just checking the other way is clear and is about to pull out in front of you or actually realises you have priority when travelling round the corner and is going to stay put. Indicating, even though you're not turning through a junction, is sometimes prudent there.

Always assume every other driver is fking idiot and you won't go far wrong.
Centurion please. That attitude is so last century, maybe even further back. Treating all others as idiots does yourself no favours at all. In fact it says a lot about your driving perspective.

You say you indicate 'just to make sure'. No wonder indicating has now become, sadly, an optional extra in our modern motoring world.


Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Centurion07 said:
SlimJim16v said:
People who approach the mini roundabout outside my house, from the right, which means you can only go straight ahead or turn left, but indicate right and go straight on. Retards.
Surely that leaves no ambiguity as to their intentions? No indication; no idea which way they're going so I'll pull out regardless. Indicating right; must be going straight over.

There are retards out there that will assume as they see no indicator that that car will take the first exit rather than go straight ahead and therefore just pull out.

I'll indicate in those circumstances just to make sure e.g. there's a sharp bend in my area with a road that joins from the outside which has the give way markings. You can never tell if the driver waiting at that line is either just checking the other way is clear and is about to pull out in front of you or actually realises you have priority when travelling round the corner and is going to stay put. Indicating, even though you're not turning through a junction, is sometimes prudent there.

Always assume every other driver is fking idiot and you won't go far wrong.
you're clearly insane. If I saw someone doing that I'd assume they'd dun fukt up and were going to do a u-turn around the mini roundabout. Also I don't believe the right indicator is advised for use in straight-on moves.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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actually you should absolutely consider that everyone else on the road has no fking clue what they are doing and/or haven't seen you. That is the task of defensive driving. WD39 i am really confused and alarmed by your posts sometimes.

WD39

20,083 posts

117 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Blown2CV said:
actually you should absolutely consider that everyone else on the road has no fking clue what they are doing and/or haven't seen you. That is the task of defensive driving. WD39 i am really confused and alarmed by your posts sometimes.
YOU'RE confused and alarmed!confused

InitialDave

11,927 posts

120 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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I agree with Centurion. If a roundabout has no turn to one side (so your only options are straight on/left, or straight on/right), I'll often indicate the other way to make it clear I'm not going the "not straight on" way, even if I don't need to.

And yes, I'm firmly in the "assume everyone else on the road is an idiot, and they're out to get you" club for defensive driving.
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