One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3

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Europa1

10,923 posts

187 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Cambridgeshire County Council, for apparently thinking they need to close a 700-800 foot stretch of road on the approaches to Addenbrookes hospital to build 2 cycle lanes and 2 floating bus stops...for 5 months. I can only assume it will be 1 workman doing the work, with a trowel.

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Flibble

6,470 posts

180 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Alex_225 said:
I do wonder if it's modern cars that have a lit lit up speedo by default which don't hint that their lights aren't on.

The dashboard of my other half's old 2013 Focus used to be lit up the entire time. Now as much as you'd hope people would realise there's no light emanating from the front of their car, in a well lit up area they may be forgiven (just!) for not noticing. In older cars you'd notice if the dashboard was in darkness but modern cars don't give yo that clue.

It's still bloody stupid so I'm not making excuses but I've seen more than one relatively new car bumbling along without their lights on, being flashed and gestured to and being none the wiser. Yet passing them on the motorway, you can see the dashboard is lit up!
Not modern cars, just some marques do it and some don't. My current and previous cars are 63 and 16 plate respectively and both only lit the dashboard at night when you had the lights on.
It's not helped by the fact that the sidelight telltale seems to have vanished from cars.

Alex_225

6,234 posts

200 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Flibble said:
Not modern cars, just some marques do it and some don't. My current and previous cars are 63 and 16 plate respectively and both only lit the dashboard at night when you had the lights on.
It's not helped by the fact that the sidelight telltale seems to have vanished from cars.
I think the car I saw was some kind of SUV but can't recall the brand. I recall going past it on the motorway and no lights on at all but could see glow of the dashboard as I glanced over.

Recall my Mrs Focus dashboard looking the same whether the lights were on or not.

Bizarre though as I've driven cars with auto lights since about 2003 but I've never struggled to make sure I put them on at the appropriate times. People are just a bit dim haha

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

182 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Alex_225 said:
Bizarre though as I've driven cars with auto lights since about 2003 but I've never struggled to make sure I put them on at the appropriate times. People are just a bit dim haha
Careful some old timer will bring "lighting up time" into the discussion.

Most people don't know this but legislation was in place for all vehicles in the UK to have their headlights on at all times. This was because some people are too thick to realise that low visibility due to rain, spray and so on warranted the use of lights. Sadly in 2010 the EU passed the DRL law and they blocked the headlights at all times in the UK legislation because manufacturers had spend money developing new headlights and DRL's. If the UK law was passed it would have made DRL's pointless.

So now we have a bunch of plebs with newer cars driving with just the DRL's on until it's completely dark and they get fed up of people flashing their headlights at them.
A bunch of twunts who can't afford a newer car with DRL's so they have cheap nasty eBay made in China blue LED lights aimed wherever.
Yet we still have a bunch of hazards on the road in all conditions with no lights on at all because the one in front only has DRL's on.

Thanks Europe. rolleyes

Sorry chaps. Bit of a pithy mood today. One car I was looking forward to driving is too small for me to get in. Gutted.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

217 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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My Megane is one of these cars with a permanently lit dashboard but has a simple solution to the problem - with lights off the dashboard is locked at maximum brightness and dazzles you when it's dark out, even under street lights, so you're forced to put your lights on biggrin

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

166 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Range Rover Sport of the L320 variety in Essix, parked across 2 spaces, driver gets in while on the phone and drives off while on the phone. Rarely have so many stereotypes been ticked off by one person.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

94 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Liquid Knight said:
Sadly in 2010 the EU passed the DRL law and they blocked the headlights at all times in the UK legislation because manufacturers had spend money developing new headlights and DRL's. If the UK law was passed it would have made DRL's pointless.
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?

Trabi601

4,865 posts

94 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?
There was a study done in, I recall, Sweden regarding cars using headlights during the day.

When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).

I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.

Hol

8,360 posts

199 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?
There was a study done in, I recall, Sweden regarding cars using headlights during the day.

When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).

I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.
1. Sweden
2. You believe.


I get it! coffee

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?
There was a study done in, I recall, Sweden regarding cars using headlights during the day.

When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).

I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.
Thanks for clearing that up rolleyes

So people shouldn't use headlights on their cars during the day because of some vague recollection about a "study" in a different country which may or may not have resulted in some legislation.

You know the rules - source please.

Also your assertion the motorcycles used to be the only road users who used lights during the day is just stupid.

RicksAlfas

13,355 posts

243 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Some history here:
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safety/daytim...

The thing I don't get is why they don't illuminate the tail lights. I can fully understand that a person with no interest in cars can be baffled by the fact that they have bright lights on the front, their dashboard is lit up, but yet there's nothing on the back of the car. Why?

24lemons

2,629 posts

184 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?
There was a study done in, I recall, Sweden regarding cars using headlights during the day.

When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).

I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.
Thanks for clearing that up rolleyes

So people shouldn't use headlights on their cars during the day because of some vague recollection about a "study" in a different country which may or may not have resulted in some legislation.

You know the rules - source please.

Also your assertion the motorcycles used to be the only road users who used lights during the day is just stupid.
I think its a very valid point. Up until a few years ago, if you saw lights approaching during the day then chances were that it was either a motorbike or a Volvo. Today every other vehicle has bright lights during the day which effectively removes the one main advantage that bike riders had available to them.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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A light is a light. It's very purpose is to be brighter than it's surroundings.

If a bike's light is lost in amongst other lights then it means you've seen those lights ergo you are aware of another vehicle.

24lemons

2,629 posts

184 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Centurion07 said:
A light is a light. It's very purpose is to be brighter than it's surroundings.

If a bike's light is lost in amongst other lights then it means you've seen those lights ergo you are aware of another vehicle.
True but its dangerous to assume that you have seen all of the oncoming traffic especially if you decide to pull out into traffic taking advantage of a small gap, not realising that there is a bike in the mix that cant stop as quickly as a car. We all know that bikes often travel quicker than cars and pulling out into traffic when a bike is making its way past can have disastrous consequences. A single headlight approaching was often the first thing you saw whereas now all you see are lights.

Bluedot

3,574 posts

106 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Anybody sitting one metre behind an ambulance as it scythes through queuing motorway traffic.
You can almost feel their smugness and sense of superiority as they go past, determined not to let anyone back in.
s.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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stupid BMW driver who pulls out on me on the road then stops still waiting for me to crash into them, instead of just speeding up..

I get the hazard light flash thou, like that solves everything.

Angrybiker

557 posts

89 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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any cyclist in London. just pick one. doesn't matter. Can make whatever hairbrained manoeuvre as dramatically and suddenly as they like, with no prior planning or notification to anyone else on the road - but of course everyone else is accountable for their safety.

Angrybiker

557 posts

89 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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idiots on scooters - especially with L plates - who feel compelled to imagine that the commute is not a commute but in fact a race with Valentino Rossi

Angrybiker

557 posts

89 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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lousy scooters or cyclists or bikes with unfeasibly wide handlebars who block the overtaking position when there's more than enough room for the queue of 10 bikes behind them
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