One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 3
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Cambridgeshire County Council, for apparently thinking they need to close a 700-800 foot stretch of road on the approaches to Addenbrookes hospital to build 2 cycle lanes and 2 floating bus stops...for 5 months. I can only assume it will be 1 workman doing the work, with a trowel.
Edited by Europa1 on Wednesday 18th January 17:49
Alex_225 said:
I do wonder if it's modern cars that have a lit lit up speedo by default which don't hint that their lights aren't on.
The dashboard of my other half's old 2013 Focus used to be lit up the entire time. Now as much as you'd hope people would realise there's no light emanating from the front of their car, in a well lit up area they may be forgiven (just!) for not noticing. In older cars you'd notice if the dashboard was in darkness but modern cars don't give yo that clue.
It's still bloody stupid so I'm not making excuses but I've seen more than one relatively new car bumbling along without their lights on, being flashed and gestured to and being none the wiser. Yet passing them on the motorway, you can see the dashboard is lit up!
Not modern cars, just some marques do it and some don't. My current and previous cars are 63 and 16 plate respectively and both only lit the dashboard at night when you had the lights on.The dashboard of my other half's old 2013 Focus used to be lit up the entire time. Now as much as you'd hope people would realise there's no light emanating from the front of their car, in a well lit up area they may be forgiven (just!) for not noticing. In older cars you'd notice if the dashboard was in darkness but modern cars don't give yo that clue.
It's still bloody stupid so I'm not making excuses but I've seen more than one relatively new car bumbling along without their lights on, being flashed and gestured to and being none the wiser. Yet passing them on the motorway, you can see the dashboard is lit up!
It's not helped by the fact that the sidelight telltale seems to have vanished from cars.
Flibble said:
Not modern cars, just some marques do it and some don't. My current and previous cars are 63 and 16 plate respectively and both only lit the dashboard at night when you had the lights on.
It's not helped by the fact that the sidelight telltale seems to have vanished from cars.
I think the car I saw was some kind of SUV but can't recall the brand. I recall going past it on the motorway and no lights on at all but could see glow of the dashboard as I glanced over. It's not helped by the fact that the sidelight telltale seems to have vanished from cars.
Recall my Mrs Focus dashboard looking the same whether the lights were on or not.
Bizarre though as I've driven cars with auto lights since about 2003 but I've never struggled to make sure I put them on at the appropriate times. People are just a bit dim haha
Alex_225 said:
Bizarre though as I've driven cars with auto lights since about 2003 but I've never struggled to make sure I put them on at the appropriate times. People are just a bit dim haha
Careful some old timer will bring "lighting up time" into the discussion. Most people don't know this but legislation was in place for all vehicles in the UK to have their headlights on at all times. This was because some people are too thick to realise that low visibility due to rain, spray and so on warranted the use of lights. Sadly in 2010 the EU passed the DRL law and they blocked the headlights at all times in the UK legislation because manufacturers had spend money developing new headlights and DRL's. If the UK law was passed it would have made DRL's pointless.
So now we have a bunch of plebs with newer cars driving with just the DRL's on until it's completely dark and they get fed up of people flashing their headlights at them.
A bunch of twunts who can't afford a newer car with DRL's so they have cheap nasty eBay made in China blue LED lights aimed wherever.
Yet we still have a bunch of hazards on the road in all conditions with no lights on at all because the one in front only has DRL's on.
Thanks Europe.
Sorry chaps. Bit of a pithy mood today. One car I was looking forward to driving is too small for me to get in. Gutted.
Liquid Knight said:
Sadly in 2010 the EU passed the DRL law and they blocked the headlights at all times in the UK legislation because manufacturers had spend money developing new headlights and DRL's. If the UK law was passed it would have made DRL's pointless.
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).
I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.
Trabi601 said:
bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).
I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.
2. You believe.
I get it!
Trabi601 said:
bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).
I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.
So people shouldn't use headlights on their cars during the day because of some vague recollection about a "study" in a different country which may or may not have resulted in some legislation.
You know the rules - source please.
Also your assertion the motorcycles used to be the only road users who used lights during the day is just stupid.
Some history here:
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safety/daytim...
The thing I don't get is why they don't illuminate the tail lights. I can fully understand that a person with no interest in cars can be baffled by the fact that they have bright lights on the front, their dashboard is lit up, but yet there's nothing on the back of the car. Why?
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safety/daytim...
The thing I don't get is why they don't illuminate the tail lights. I can fully understand that a person with no interest in cars can be baffled by the fact that they have bright lights on the front, their dashboard is lit up, but yet there's nothing on the back of the car. Why?
bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
bmw535i said:
Trabi601 said:
I've always been against the headlights permanently on as it detracts attention from 2-wheeled road users, who used to be the only road users with lighting during daylight hours.
What?When they legislated that cars should run with headlights on during daylight hours, the number of motorcycle accidents involving cars went up. (Although car to car accidents went down).
I believe this is why Sweden went for the dim-dip / sidelight solution, allowing motorcycles to maintain some kind of extra visibility over and above cars.
So people shouldn't use headlights on their cars during the day because of some vague recollection about a "study" in a different country which may or may not have resulted in some legislation.
You know the rules - source please.
Also your assertion the motorcycles used to be the only road users who used lights during the day is just stupid.
Centurion07 said:
A light is a light. It's very purpose is to be brighter than it's surroundings.
If a bike's light is lost in amongst other lights then it means you've seen those lights ergo you are aware of another vehicle.
True but its dangerous to assume that you have seen all of the oncoming traffic especially if you decide to pull out into traffic taking advantage of a small gap, not realising that there is a bike in the mix that cant stop as quickly as a car. We all know that bikes often travel quicker than cars and pulling out into traffic when a bike is making its way past can have disastrous consequences. A single headlight approaching was often the first thing you saw whereas now all you see are lights.If a bike's light is lost in amongst other lights then it means you've seen those lights ergo you are aware of another vehicle.
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