RE: Williams vs 182 Trophy vs 200 Cup vs 200 Turbo
Discussion
LordHaveMurci said:
Love my 172 Cup, for me the Williams is too old now, the new ones leave me cold.
The 1*2's are the tipping point between old & new for me, especially the 172 Cup with no AC, ABS etc.
Good to hear they're slowly increasing in value, maybe I'll treat mine to a wash then!
Are you bringing your clio to the cheddar meet on sunday?The 1*2's are the tipping point between old & new for me, especially the 172 Cup with no AC, ABS etc.
Good to hear they're slowly increasing in value, maybe I'll treat mine to a wash then!
clarki said:
They were on, the ride was awful.
All a bit over hyped the Trophy IMO.
I owned a 172 cup at the same time as my 182 Trophy and the damping / compliance on the Trophy was in a different league to the cup. Perhaps you were unlucky and had a duff set of dampers? Equally, the dampers were adjustable for tool-free compression damping if the small pin had been removed from the adjuster... maybe yours were incorrectly set at the factory to a firmer setting or had been adjusted at some point before you bought the car?All a bit over hyped the Trophy IMO.
Just a thought!
JD
Never liked Renaults....too iffy on build quality and reliability. Seen many Clio's in the pits at various track days broken!
Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
Msportman said:
Never liked Renaults....too iffy on build quality and reliability. Seen many Clio's in the pits at various track days broken!
Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
Special? Resolved? sounds more like opinion than fact. Have you ever driven any of the cars mentioned in the story on track?Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
p.s never seen a Clio or Renault of any kind broken down at any track event over the last 4 or so years, plenty of dodgy ones with 'iffy' modifications but the same can be said for most brands/cars. Even seen one black flagged because it was basically running on engine oil but that was a supercharged mk1 but it was still running!
Edited by GrumpyTwig on Saturday 18th April 01:01
Msportman said:
Never liked Renaults....too iffy on build quality and reliability. Seen many Clio's in the pits at various track days broken!
Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
Oh here we go, another troll :P Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
Yeah Inegra's are super reliable, never seen one at a trackday drinking excessive amounts of oil because the engine's oil seals are f
ked and its smoking its tits off.Motorsport development ? Yep, Renault have none of that, never competed in Formula 1 or Rallying. The Clio Sport's share components with the Factory Cup cars.
melvster said:
Msportman said:
Never liked Renaults....too iffy on build quality and reliability. Seen many Clio's in the pits at various track days broken!
Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
Oh here we go, another troll :P Would have to say Integra is far more special especially on track! A far more resolved chassis with proper Motorsport development thought put into its conception.
Yeah Inegra's are super reliable, never seen one at a trackday drinking excessive amounts of oil because the engine's oil seals are f
ked and its smoking its tits off.Motorsport development ? Yep, Renault have none of that, never competed in Formula 1 or Rallying. The Clio Sport's share components with the Factory Cup cars.
I had a Clio 16V, Williams (no.123), 172 (ph2) and then a 197 - with some others in between and since.
This reads like a reliable assessment of the four on test. All mine were memorable, although I haven't even been close to a new Clio 200 yet.
Now that I'm older, wiser, have kids etc; I think the idea of a flappy-paddle / 5-door only Clio Renaultsport really isn't so bad. I could probably even get away with one as our family car, given that my 2 kids are now past the stage where we need to carry a boat load of stuff everywhere and our Golf R32's boot is actually no bigger anyway!
This reads like a reliable assessment of the four on test. All mine were memorable, although I haven't even been close to a new Clio 200 yet.
Now that I'm older, wiser, have kids etc; I think the idea of a flappy-paddle / 5-door only Clio Renaultsport really isn't so bad. I could probably even get away with one as our family car, given that my 2 kids are now past the stage where we need to carry a boat load of stuff everywhere and our Golf R32's boot is actually no bigger anyway!
egor110 said:
Wasn't the clio sport a totally separate factory to the normal cars?
All the RenaultSport models excluding the Phase 1 V6 and Williams (not 100% on the latter) are all built at the old Alpine Factory in Dieppe; Renault also build their Rally cars and factory spec Cup race cars here along with the Single seaters. melvster said:
egor110 said:
Wasn't the clio sport a totally separate factory to the normal cars?
All the RenaultSport models excluding the Phase 1 V6 and Williams (not 100% on the latter) are all built at the old Alpine Factory in Dieppe; Renault also build their Rally cars and factory spec Cup race cars here along with the Single seaters. It's why the Meganes didn't have the LY paint to start with when the 250 came out.
scarecrow said:
Shame there wasn't modern rubber on the Williams.
Would love to see how it compares with modern stuff.
I drove one in the nineties and it may be rose tinted specs but I thought it was brilliant with fantastic grip and traction.
What kind of fWould love to see how it compares with modern stuff.
I drove one in the nineties and it may be rose tinted specs but I thought it was brilliant with fantastic grip and traction.
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