RE: Shed Of The Week: Rover 820Si

RE: Shed Of The Week: Rover 820Si

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MadDog1962

890 posts

163 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Fastra said:
St John Smythe said:
daytona365 said:
0 to 60 in 7.3 ? That's as quick as a flippin Jensen interceptor !!
That was probably recorded off a cliff when it was new smile
12 seconds according to this:

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-fi...
Guys, I think if you read the article carefully, you'll find that the 7.3 second 0 - 60 time was with reference to the turbocharged vitesse coupe version, not the 820 hatch.

For the record I am not a pathological Rover hater, but just a quick check of what Rovers are for sale in Pistonheads classified reveals just 55 cars. Of those 55 vehicles most are pre BMW era Minis and the more modern 75s. Considering the number of cars originally sold that reflects a pretty low survival rate. No doubt Vauxhalls do even worse (I have not checked).

Iamnotkloot

1,430 posts

148 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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The Crack Fox said:
One of my favourite things on Pistonheads, that it. smile
Ditto, just read it and excellent effort!

ant leigh

714 posts

144 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Fastra said:
St John Smythe said:
daytona365 said:
0 to 60 in 7.3 ? That's as quick as a flippin Jensen interceptor !!
That was probably recorded off a cliff when it was new smile
12 seconds according to this:

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-fi...
I presume you mean the 820si?
The Vitesse Turbo was certainly capable of 7.3 secs

Reference the Vitesse Turbo.
Owned one for 3 years, perfectly reliable and pretty quick. It did tend to rattle a bit but that seemed to be a consequence of keeping down the insulation and fittings for a lower weight. I believe it was under 1400kg which is decent for a big car. I remember it came with some sticky rubber and combined with the relatively light weight and the LSD meant it was a pretty good steer as well.

I certainly had a few entertaining moments around the Dumfries and Galloway area smile

As for the shed, it does seems good value but then again I'm not well up on typical shed prices.

Jerry Can

4,461 posts

224 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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my old man had 2, as successive company cars. First was bought back after 12 months as it had spent more time in the garage than on the driveway.

My first solo drive was in a 820si about an hour after I passed my test. 100 leptons, left foot braking, and hand brake turns all achieved on that first drive. Think I managed, with ph'er Soxboy, to get up to 115 leptons down penny pot lane in mid 1991. Which is possibly the fastest I have ever gone on the public road

I loved Rovers, and I thrashed the knackers off my dad's car. happy days!

J4CKO

41,628 posts

201 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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MadDog1962 said:
Fastra said:
St John Smythe said:
daytona365 said:
0 to 60 in 7.3 ? That's as quick as a flippin Jensen interceptor !!
That was probably recorded off a cliff when it was new smile
12 seconds according to this:

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-fi...
Guys, I think if you read the article carefully, you'll find that the 7.3 second 0 - 60 time was with reference to the turbocharged vitesse coupe version, not the 820 hatch.

For the record I am not a pathological Rover hater, but just a quick check of what Rovers are for sale in Pistonheads classified reveals just 55 cars. Of those 55 vehicles most are pre BMW era Minis and the more modern 75s. Considering the number of cars originally sold that reflects a pretty low survival rate. No doubt Vauxhalls do even worse (I have not checked).
7.3 for the turbo

10 for the N/A 2 litre

12 secs for the automatic 2 litre


As for survival rate, Rover made their last car ten years ago, still a fair few about, I reckon in say four years we wont see any and not realise, happens with all cars, they just get to a point where they cost more to save than scrap.


It is sort of ironic, people used to put more effort to save old sheds at ten years old when they really were knackered, now the cars are fitter than ever at ten years, less rust, better mechanicals but people dont really put as much effort into keeping them going due to leasing and finance being more prevalent, keep an old st box going or £130 a month for a new supermini.



unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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"Some might query the presence of the word 'superb' within javelin-throwing distance of a Rover 800 and, like the javelin, they may have a point."

He's here all week, ladies and gentlemen. biggrin

Warpspeed1

19 posts

119 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Not sure what it is that so upsets people - it's £750 before haggling, looks smart, last owner 17 years so cared for and seats 5.
If it's not for you because you need a sports car, a German car or have no imagination then simply don't buy it - find something else for the money.
Incidentally all you German lovers have you not read this weeks report on the most reliable cars around, all your preferential makers are bottom of the pile and we are not talking just about cylinder head gaskets!

cwoodsie2

331 posts

210 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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My dad got through about 250k miles in two of these. First was a mere 820Si, the second the far superior 820SLi! When that "L" stood for quite a nice bodykit, alloys and nicer upholstery.

Always met approval from my mates who grabbed a lift as the standard stereo was quite good and the seats were very comfy to fall asleep in on the way back from the pub.

Only ever had electrical problems with ours and nothing serious. Wipers failing, windows getting stuck - but all were cheap fixes. Tis true there were quite a few "Friday afternoon" specials though - couple of his mates had horrendous problems with theirs but we were ok. He's had more issues with his MG ZT which followed these.

LouD86

3,279 posts

154 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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I learnt to drive in two generations of these, at age circa 10. H404DBK was the first, and 820i Auto in light blue, Saloon. Second one was a J reg 820si, which I learnt to tow the caravan with at age 12? 820si Fastback in Black, awesome thing!

bakerstreet

4,766 posts

166 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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My step dad had one of these for five years. It was the V6 model and went quite well. Interior was really cramped from memory. Seats were good smile

It was actually quite reliable. It had normal servicing and several rear exhaust boxes. This was because it used to bottom out going over the speed bumps. Sounded quite sweet too.

My Step Dad wanted a hatchback to carry his bike and it did that really well. At the time, it was the only hatchback you could get in that class smile

soxboy

6,271 posts

220 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Jerry Can said:
my old man had 2, as successive company cars. First was bought back after 12 months as it had spent more time in the garage than on the driveway.

My first solo drive was in a 820si about an hour after I passed my test. 100 leptons, left foot braking, and hand brake turns all achieved on that first drive. Think I managed, with ph'er Soxboy, to get up to 115 leptons down penny pot lane in mid 1991. Which is possibly the fastest I have ever gone on the public road

I loved Rovers, and I thrashed the knackers off my dad's car. happy days!
In the unlikely event that car is still around you will probably find the imprint of my fingernails on the grab handle where I held on for dear life.

Plenty of fkstfkstfkst moments in that.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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It seems pretty crap, but a good, endearing crap, and of course it's something just a bit different - if I were in the market for this sort of thing I'd give this a check over for sure.

GurneyFlap

19 posts

137 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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A badly built Honda? Aaaaahm ooot!

_Deano

7,406 posts

254 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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My dad had the 820 sport, with the Recaro seats and the part-leather interior, and it was the first car that i learnt to drive/control. Learning how to balance the clutch, and moving from standstill. A bit too much car, for someone that has never driven before.

But once i had passed my test and probably after about 5 years of ownership, i killed it on the way to Oxford.
The car would drop out of 5th gear when travelling along the m/way and in the end you had to makedo with 4th. Me knowing best (or so i thought), held the gear stick in 5th and didn't let it pop out; this ended up with the propshaft dislodging itself and the car was left on the side of the road. Otherwise it was a lovely spacious car, that served us well.


BL Fanboy

339 posts

143 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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_Deano said:
My dad had the 820 sport, with the Recaro seats and the part-leather interior, and it was the first car that i learnt to drive/control. Learning how to balance the clutch, and moving from standstill. A bit too much car, for someone that has never driven before.

But once i had passed my test and probably after about 5 years of ownership, i killed it on the way to Oxford.
The car would drop out of 5th gear when travelling along the m/way and in the end you had to makedo with 4th. Me knowing best (or so i thought), held the gear stick in 5th and didn't let it pop out; this ended up with the propshaft dislodging itself and the car was left on the side of the road. Otherwise it was a lovely spacious car, that served us well.
Ah, that'll be the Honda PG1 gearbox diff bearings giving up the ghost.

canucklehead

416 posts

147 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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admirable shed. like all machinery, it can be reliable if you know what to watch out for.

as for BMW - I was there in Longbridge in powertrain (EA-22 in post-merger Munchen-speak) as BMW sank the good ship Rover Group. the degree to which BMW either wilfully or incompetently (I'll never know which) mismanaged Rover was shocking. i could bore for weeks on this topic, but one example will illustrate: the replacement for the 200/400 (a platform which by 1998 was so old it had received its telegram from the Queen) was actually shelved, while all kind of resources were poured into readying the 75 ( a vehicle which would never ever have shifted miore than about 75k units/yr), as the core product 200/400 was dying on the vine. of course,even then, the 75 was denied various bits and bobs that could have made it a true challenger to the German competition.

of course Rover had its share of management faux pas too, but it were Bimmer that killed the Brummie.

Ex Boy Racer

1,151 posts

193 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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_Deano said:
My dad had the 820 sport, with the Recaro seats and the part-leather interior, and it was the first car that i learnt to drive/control. Learning how to balance the clutch, and moving from standstill. A bit too much car, for someone that has never driven before.

But once i had passed my test and probably after about 5 years of ownership, i killed it on the way to Oxford.
The car would drop out of 5th gear when travelling along the m/way and in the end you had to makedo with 4th. Me knowing best (or so i thought), held the gear stick in 5th and didn't let it pop out; this ended up with the propshaft dislodging itself and the car was left on the side of the road. Otherwise it was a lovely spacious car, that served us well.
Ermmm.. what propshaft?

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

219 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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[quote=Cotic]As far as I can remember, the KV6 never had any head gasket issues; that was an issue with the four-pot only.

"Head gasket failure is very rare on the V6" quickly borrowed of the forum.

The reference to hgf failure on the KV6 needs taking out of the article, its more Mirror than PH and is propagating yet another internet myth.

Fartgalen

6,640 posts

208 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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I have fond memories of borrowing my boss' 827 back in the day. It felt pretty rapid. A colleague and I would compare (lowest) mpg figures from the OBC wink Another manager had an 820 which in comparison felt sluggish. Anyway - I'd shed that car at 750 quid.

UK345

441 posts

159 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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They are actually okay these. A rare sight on the roads plus in its day it was a nice executive saloon. I do however think that 75 was a massive improvement