Disabled bay abuser confronted.

[JQ]

thelawnet said:

Why the f*** should he?

Because he was parked in a disabled bay without a Blue Badge, that's the purpose of the blue badge. If you don't want to answer to people about where you park don't park in a restricted parking bay. It's not complicated.

[Zoobeef]

Its vigilantes like the video maker that make themselves look stupid like what happened here.


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[thelawnet]

JQ said:

Because he was parked in a disabled bay without a Blue Badge, that's the purpose of the blue badge. If you don't want to answer to people about where you park don't park in a restricted parking bay. It's not complicated.

That's not right, not right at all.

Page 1 of the Blue Badge Guide.

"A Blue Badge will help you to park close to your
destination, either as a passenger or driver.
However, the badge is intended for on-street
parking only. Off-street car parks, such as those
provided in local authority, hospital or supermarket
car parks are governed by separate rules. "

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

If you are going to appoint yourself as a vigilante, you need to make sure you know the rules first.

On the same land: http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthr...http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=7900...

Edited by thelawnet on Sunday 19th April 00:02

[funkyrobot]

JQ said:

Because he was parked in a disabled bay without a Blue Badge, that's the purpose of the blue badge. If you don't want to answer to people about where you park don't park in a restricted parking bay. It's not complicated.

I don't condone what the RR driver did and I think that both the people in the vid are idiots.

However, as this was on retail park (private) land, what can anyone do about it? I say this as someone who has a small child and regularly sees abuse of P & C spaces in car parks (not that anything can be done about that either).

[JQ]

thelawnet said:

If you are going to appoint yourself as a vigilante, you need to make sure you know the rules first.

I'm not a vigilante, I'm just not a tt. Are you able bodied and do you park in disabled spaces?

Edited by JQ on Sunday 19th April 00:03

[272BHP]

What kind of bloke has a go at someone when they have a sleeping kid in the car? a kid that is so tired that they do not even stir with all the commotion that is going on. Surely any well balanced individual would not involve themselves from that point on and given the guy the benefit of the doubt.

What kind of person would then escalate the situation by producing a camera phone and filming the incident?

[Seventy]

thelawnet said:

No that's not right. You can park in a disabled bay if carrying a disabled passenger, for example. There's no requirement that the disabled person be the driver.

Apologies, I agree on the second part. However the first part of my statement still holds true.
And yes, on private land there are no enforceable laws regarding abuse of disabled bays.
Suppose that adds me to the list for debating it!

[thelawnet]

JQ said:

I'm not a vigilante, I just not a tt.

I was referring to the bloke in the video. He has no basis for going off on the Range Rover driver, because a blue badge is not applicable here and he therefore has no way whatsoever of knowing if in fact they need a disabled space.

Moreover, he's picking a fight for the sake of it (there look to be lots of other spaces available), so he shouldn't be surprised when he gets one.

I don't go into a nightclub and look for arsey tts, and make believe I'm the bouncer, because I'm liable to get a punch in the face. So why is this guy playing at traffic warden?

[JQ]

thelawnet said:

I was referring to the bloke in the video. He has no basis for going off on the Range Rover driver, because a blue badge is not applicable here and he therefore has no way whatsoever of knowing if in fact they need a disabled space.

Moreover, he's picking a fight for the sake of it (there look to be lots of other spaces available), so he shouldn't be surprised when he gets one.

I don't go into a nightclub and look for arsey tts, and make believe I'm the bouncer, because I'm liable to get a punch in the face. So why is this guy playing at traffic warden?

It's weird, you're taking quite a confrontational approach to this topic, but you're you expressing an opinion that we should all be doormats. If someone does something we don't like or goes against the grain we should all just keep quiet and let them do what they like, after all anything other than that and we're just asking for a fight and deserve a punch in the face. Do you ever confront people other than on the internet?

Anyway I'm off to bed, you keep parking in disabled bays and justify it in your own mind, I'll keep parking in normal bays like the rest of the world who aren't tts, no matter what the "legal" requirements are.

[thelawnet]

JQ said:

It's weird, you're taking quite a confrontational approach to this topic, but you're you expressing an opinion that we should all be doormats. If someone does something we don't like or goes against the grain we should all just keep quiet and let them do what they like, after all anything other than that and we're just asking for a fight and deserve a punch in the face. Do you ever confront people other than on the internet?

No I'm just pointing out that there are confrontations to get into, and confrontations to not bother with. It isn't complicated really.

JQ said:

Anyway I'm off to bed, you keep parking in disabled bays and justify it in your own mind, I'll keep parking in normal bays like the rest of the world who aren't tts, no matter what the "legal" requirements are.

I'm not justifying anything in my mind, I'm pointing out that the filmer is a racist idiot stirring up trouble for no useful purpose. It's nothing more complicated than that.

[Sump]

JQ said:

thelawnet said:

I was referring to the bloke in the video. He has no basis for going off on the Range Rover driver, because a blue badge is not applicable here and he therefore has no way whatsoever of knowing if in fact they need a disabled space.

Moreover, he's picking a fight for the sake of it (there look to be lots of other spaces available), so he shouldn't be surprised when he gets one.

I don't go into a nightclub and look for arsey tts, and make believe I'm the bouncer, because I'm liable to get a punch in the face. So why is this guy playing at traffic warden?

It's weird, you're taking quite a confrontational approach to this topic, but you're you expressing an opinion that we should all be doormats. If someone does something we don't like or goes against the grain we should all just keep quiet and let them do what they like, after all anything other than that and we're just asking for a fight and deserve a punch in the face. Do you ever confront people other than on the internet?

Anyway I'm off to bed, you keep parking in disabled bays and justify it in your own mind, I'll keep parking in normal bays like the rest of the world who aren't tts, no matter what the "legal" requirements are.

Well, let me tell you something - this is exactly how Nazi Germany started! A lot of layabouts with nothing better to do than to cause trouble!

[Pesty]

berlintaxi said:

Assault, I would have passed it straight to plod, serve the scummy tt right.

That.

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JQ said:

thelawnet said:

I was referring to the bloke in the video. He has no basis for going off on the Range Rover driver, because a blue badge is not applicable here and he therefore has no way whatsoever of knowing if in fact they need a disabled space.

Moreover, he's picking a fight for the sake of it (there look to be lots of other spaces available), so he shouldn't be surprised when he gets one.

I don't go into a nightclub and look for arsey tts, and make believe I'm the bouncer, because I'm liable to get a punch in the face. So why is this guy playing at traffic warden?

It's weird, you're taking quite a confrontational approach to this topic, but you're you expressing an opinion that we should all be doormats. If someone does something we don't like or goes against the grain we should all just keep quiet and let them do what they like, after all anything other than that and we're just asking for a fight and deserve a punch in the face. Do you ever confront people other than on the internet?

Anyway I'm off to bed, you keep parking in disabled bays and justify it in your own mind, I'll keep parking in normal bays like the rest of the world who aren't tts, no matter what the "legal" requirements are.

The chap with the camera came across as an aggressive bully. That was simply the day he met another bully. These people feel they can go around talking to people like that without consequences, I'm sure some feel their "disability" gives them a layer of protection, perhaps a good kicking is exactly what he needs to realise he has an attitude problem.

We don't know the guy in the RR's situation, the tool with the camera made his own judgement and approached the situation in a manner most would find unacceptable.

I often drive a friend who is a blue badge holder, her disability isn't obvious. As she doesn't have her own car she often carries the badge in her hand bag. Sometimes she forgets to bring it, sometimes she forgets to put it in the screen, sometimes I don't always feel it necessary to place it in windscreen if I'm waiting in the car for short periods of time.

As she is young and her disability isn't obvious she has suffered abuse from mouth breathers even with her badge displayed.

Edited by 1 on Sunday 19th April 03:39

[Hasbeen]

I have a disability permit, but as I drive a number of different cars, I carry it in my medication bag, to use in which ever car I'm in.

My cars are also apparently not what people expect/accept as cars for those with a disability. I have been accosted on 4 occasions by people who have not seen my permit, or before I have got it out & displayed, who obviously did not think my S2000 or TR7 were suitable transport for the disabled. As none of these have been too aggressive, I welcome people looking after those who need these bays, & thank them.

When people query my choice of cars, & they can be difficult to get into some days, I point out that they do not cause me a problem when driving. I'll put up with some difficulty getting in, to have the pleasure of driving something fun, rather than one of the myriad horrible hatches filling our car parks today.

[The Mad Monk]

Sump said:

Well, let me tell you something - this is exactly how Nazi Germany started! A lot of layabouts with nothing better to do than to cause trouble!

Crikey!!

Well, that's something I have learnt already today, and it's only, what, five minutes past seven!

[V8 Fettler]

Supermarkets, the modern bear pit.

[robemcdonald]

Piersman2 said:

stuartmmcfc said:

Beeping and gesticulating is easily misunderstood as an aggressive act by some and the results can be seen in the clip.
Personally I try to avoid these situations as I no longer have the confidence to deal with these situations.
I have on occasion left the car park as there's no free disabled spots,ar great inconvience, rather than risk a confrontation.

You wouldn't have needed to , there was other free disabled parking.

So you wouldn't have moved after all?

What if another VIP parked in the other disabled bay. Who would have moved then?

My father has MS and frequently can't find a space because of people like you. I hope you never have to experience what it's like living with a real disability, but if you did i doubt you would be so arrogant and self entitled.

[Leptons]

I parked in a disabled bay the other day when I bobbed into Halfrauds. 10 normal spaces all full, 2 empty disabled spaces and 1 "We Fit" bay. What do you do?


Also have a new COOP in the village with the worlds Smallest car park. 4 normal (Tiny) spaces and one Huge Disabled space which is more often than not empty.

And then there's the town centre near the banks. Spend 15 minutes doing laps looking for a normal space whilst staring at 5 or 6 empty Disabled spaces.

Very PC. Not very practical though.

[Willy Nilly]

thelawnet said:

I was referring to the bloke in the video. He has no basis for going off on the Range Rover driver, because a blue badge is not applicable here and he therefore has no way whatsoever of knowing if in fact they need a disabled space.

The guy doing the videoing was himself disabled, which most would agree is a basis for having a go at someone parking in a disabled space when they don't need to. Being able bodied myself, I take great delight in parking as far away from the door as possible because it has the advantages of me getting even more exercise and keeping away from the fat wasters that can't park properly and ding my little car.

[robemcdonald]

Leptons said:

I parked in a disabled bay the other day when I bobbed into Halfrauds. 10 normal spaces all full, 2 empty disabled spaces and 1 "We Fit" bay. What do you do?

Park nearby and walk.