Disabled bay abuser confronted.
Discussion
photosnob said:
I think the bloke was well within his right to give the idiot a crack. He was clearly being aggressive - I'd say the bloke got out of his car to speak to the irrational man and then had to take action to defend himself! He was in fear of violence from the man. That would be my defence if I was charged - and it would work.
No, it would not. I suggest you understand UK criminal law before you end up in jail with that kind of attitude.photosnob said:
I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space. it's just a marketing gimmick for self entitled parents.
It doesn't matter whether you "fail to see" it or not.Supermarket car parks are private land, they can set whatever parking criteria they want and one day one might open up a row of "selfish people who think the rules don't apply to them" spaces, but for the moment they've decided that certain groups of people such as parents with small children, and disabled people, should have special treatment - it doesn't seem such a hardship to just live with that, or shop somewhere else.
It pretty much sums up what's wrong with a lot of people today IMO - the "f
k you it's all about me" attitude.Jasandjules said:
No, it would not. I suggest you understand UK criminal law before you end up in jail with that kind of attitude.
Yes it would. The law allows me to take action if I have a real fear of violence. The bloke was being aggressive. His own video shows that... If I were to fear him attacking me I could take a preemptive strike. I've done it a few times - and been arrested twice in similar situations (not in car parks). Both times I was not charged. photosnob said:
I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space. it's just a marketing gimmick for self entitled parents.
I have had a comment once from a women with a toddler - "oh it's the man with the invisible child". Her husband apologised to me. And they started having a row when I walked into the shop.
If someone started speaking to me like the bloke with the camera, I wouldn't be so nice. I think the bloke was well within his right to give the idiot a crack. He was clearly being aggressive - I'd say the bloke got out of his car to speak to the irrational man and then had to take action to defend himself! He was in fear of violence from the man. That would be my defence if I was charged - and it would work.
Edit - just realised the bloke is disabled. So I wouldn't hit him. If he was just an able bodied gob ste I would have no qualms though.
I was going to recommend that maybe you should have kids as it might make you a bit less selfish but you don't sound mature enough for it yet TBH.I have had a comment once from a women with a toddler - "oh it's the man with the invisible child". Her husband apologised to me. And they started having a row when I walked into the shop.
If someone started speaking to me like the bloke with the camera, I wouldn't be so nice. I think the bloke was well within his right to give the idiot a crack. He was clearly being aggressive - I'd say the bloke got out of his car to speak to the irrational man and then had to take action to defend himself! He was in fear of violence from the man. That would be my defence if I was charged - and it would work.
Edit - just realised the bloke is disabled. So I wouldn't hit him. If he was just an able bodied gob s
te I would have no qualms though. Edited by photosnob on Sunday 19th April 18:05
BrownBottle said:
I was going to recommend that maybe you should have kids as it might make you a bit less selfish but you don't sound mature enough for it yet TBH.
As a parent - how would you feel if someone came up to your car and started using expletives? He parked in a disabled bay - and the bloke responded by acting like that... photosnob said:
As a parent - how would you feel if someone came up to your car and started using expletives? He parked in a disabled bay - and the bloke responded by acting like that...
It wouldn't happen as I wouldn't be in the space in the first place.That's how society works, keep acting like a selfish knob and at some point someone's going to call you out, a bit like that woman did by making you look foolish at the supermarket.
Also, in the disabled guys description he says RR guy had given him a torrent of abuse before he got his phone out, no way to tell if that's true but it would explain the disabled guys language a bit.
photosnob said:
I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space. it's just a marketing gimmick for self entitled parents.
I have had a comment once from a women with a toddler - "oh it's the man with the invisible child". Her husband apologised to me. And they started having a row when I walked into the shop.
If someone started speaking to me like the bloke with the camera, I wouldn't be so nice. I think the bloke was well within his right to give the idiot a crack. He was clearly being aggressive - I'd say the bloke got out of his car to speak to the irrational man and then had to take action to defend himself! He was in fear of violence from the man. That would be my defence if I was charged - and it would work.
Edit - just realised the bloke is disabled. So I wouldn't hit him. If he was just an able bodied gob ste I would have no qualms though.
Your arrogance is astonishing. I bet you're the type of person who overtakes on double whites just because there's no one else around. I have had a comment once from a women with a toddler - "oh it's the man with the invisible child". Her husband apologised to me. And they started having a row when I walked into the shop.
If someone started speaking to me like the bloke with the camera, I wouldn't be so nice. I think the bloke was well within his right to give the idiot a crack. He was clearly being aggressive - I'd say the bloke got out of his car to speak to the irrational man and then had to take action to defend himself! He was in fear of violence from the man. That would be my defence if I was charged - and it would work.
Edit - just realised the bloke is disabled. So I wouldn't hit him. If he was just an able bodied gob s
te I would have no qualms though. Edited by photosnob on Sunday 19th April 18:05
What a sad and lonely little man you must be.
photosnob said:
Yes it would. The law allows me to take action if I have a real fear of violence. The bloke was being aggressive. His own video shows that... If I were to fear him attacking me I could take a preemptive strike. I've done it a few times - and been arrested twice in similar situations (not in car parks). Both times I was not charged.
No, if you exit a vehicle to remonstrate and the attack someone you will not have such a defence open to you, unless the prosecution is a moron (don't get me wrong, I've seen some in action who might let you get away with it). You must take steps to avoid confrontation however, such conduct was heading towards it.Gaz. said:
photosnob said:
Yes it would. The law allows me to take action if I have a real fear of violence. The bloke was being aggressive. His own video shows that... If I were to fear him attacking me I could take a preemptive strike. I've done it a few times - and been arrested twice in similar situations (not in car parks). Both times I was not charged.
It isn't normal to be arrested, perhaps you are doing something wrong...You are a classic example of what is wrong with society today.
photosnob said:
I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space. it's just a marketing gimmick for self entitled parents.
I have had a comment once from a women with a toddler - "oh it's the man with the invisible child". Her husband apologised to me. And they started having a row when I walked into the shop.
If someone started speaking to me like the bloke with the camera, I wouldn't be so nice. I think the bloke was well within his right to give the idiot a crack. He was clearly being aggressive - I'd say the bloke got out of his car to speak to the irrational man and then had to take action to defend himself! He was in fear of violence from the man. That would be my defence if I was charged - and it would work.
Edit - just realised the bloke is disabled. So I wouldn't hit him. If he was just an able bodied gob ste I would have no qualms though.
You admit you're selfish and violent, and you don't care, you're proud. And a lawyer, who wouldn't beat up obviously disabled people. Because you're worth it. I have had a comment once from a women with a toddler - "oh it's the man with the invisible child". Her husband apologised to me. And they started having a row when I walked into the shop.
If someone started speaking to me like the bloke with the camera, I wouldn't be so nice. I think the bloke was well within his right to give the idiot a crack. He was clearly being aggressive - I'd say the bloke got out of his car to speak to the irrational man and then had to take action to defend himself! He was in fear of violence from the man. That would be my defence if I was charged - and it would work.
Edit - just realised the bloke is disabled. So I wouldn't hit him. If he was just an able bodied gob s
te I would have no qualms though. Edited by photosnob on Sunday 19th April 18:05
Can't believe this debate is still going!
By coincidence, I visited my local Tesco with my wife today and thought I'd have a look at the disabled bays to see how many there were and how many were being used. As it turned out, 2 out of perhaps 8 or so that I could see were being used - both vehicles displaying disabled badges.
Sitting in a disabled bay further down was a lovely Porsche Cayenne - no badge on display and a young guy sitting in the driver's seat. Plenty of non-disabled spaces in the vicinity but as others have suggested, perhaps the driver had a valid reason. Fast forward 20 minutes and as we left the store, an elderly woman who had parked next to him (walking with sticks), was in the process of giving him a right telling off, with his response being to laugh and turn his music up. His young wife then appeared, completely ignoring the elderly woman in question and he accelerated rather quickly out of the bay. As tempting as it was, given this thread, I didn't video it or take a pic as that's not really my style.
Nothing more than an observation on my part.
By coincidence, I visited my local Tesco with my wife today and thought I'd have a look at the disabled bays to see how many there were and how many were being used. As it turned out, 2 out of perhaps 8 or so that I could see were being used - both vehicles displaying disabled badges.
Sitting in a disabled bay further down was a lovely Porsche Cayenne - no badge on display and a young guy sitting in the driver's seat. Plenty of non-disabled spaces in the vicinity but as others have suggested, perhaps the driver had a valid reason. Fast forward 20 minutes and as we left the store, an elderly woman who had parked next to him (walking with sticks), was in the process of giving him a right telling off, with his response being to laugh and turn his music up. His young wife then appeared, completely ignoring the elderly woman in question and he accelerated rather quickly out of the bay. As tempting as it was, given this thread, I didn't video it or take a pic as that's not really my style.
Nothing more than an observation on my part.
Jasandjules said:
Martin_M said:
Sitting in a disabled bay further down was a lovely Porsche Cayenne
Why does that not surprise me......Seventy said:
The biggest idiots are those who have debated this for six pages.
It's a moral thing. If you're not disabled you shouldn't park in a disabled bay,ever. End of.
Lots of people have no morals, so...............
So what if you are temporarily disabled, ie you really hurt your ankle at work and can barely walk, should you not be able to use the disabled bays? I did for months after my bike crash!! Why? because I could hardly walk from the bays to the shop never less the other side of the car park! Why didnt I get a blue badge? Bones heal up and im not disabled !!! It's a moral thing. If you're not disabled you shouldn't park in a disabled bay,ever. End of.
Lots of people have no morals, so...............
Jasandjules said:
blueg33 said:
You can't suggest that someone isn't entitled to use the space just because they drive a certain type of car.
More that they would be an arrogant t**t who thinks they can park in a disabled spot without a badge. I am not a fan of stereotyping
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