Disabled bay abuser confronted.

[Mave]

photosnob said:

I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space.

As well as making you selfish, it makes you ignorant. Have you actually bothered trying to work out why you need more space to manhandle a small child out of a car seat without damaging adjacent cars; or why you might need more space to keep one child safe in a pram out of the road whilst you strap the other one in? Or did you just decide that because you had no experience of children and the practical issues asociated with getting them in and out of cars in a confined space, that those issues don't exist?

[Hackney]

Mave said:

photosnob said:

I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space.

As well as making you selfish, it makes you ignorant. Have you actually bothered trying to work out why you need more space to manhandle a small child out of a car seat without damaging adjacent cars; or why you might need more space to keep one child safe in a pram out of the road whilst you strap the other one in? Or did you just decide that because you had no experience of children and the practical issues asociated with getting them in and out of cars in a confined space, that those issues don't exist?

And they tend to be near the store so that you don't have to push a buggy around a car park (notorious for not having pavements/ footways) but also filled with nobs like photosnob driving the wrong way around the car park ("I fail to see how having road markings means you have to follow them around a supermarket car park") and reversing out of spaces without looking.

[mp3manager]

Mr10secs said:

So what if you are temporarily disabled, ie you really hurt your ankle at work and can barely walk, should you not be able to use the disabled bays?

No. The rules are pretty simple, no blue badge on display...no parking in a disabled bay. What part do you not understand?


I think it's high-time we had a Janet And John book on where you can and cannot park, for those that are thicker than a whale omelette, because parking in a legal and responsible manner seems to be beyond them.

[stuartmmcfc]

mp3manager said:

Mr10secs said:

So what if you are temporarily disabled, ie you really hurt your ankle at work and can barely walk, should you not be able to use the disabled bays?

No. The rules are pretty simple, no blue badge on display...no parking in a disabled bay. What part do you not understand?


I think it's high-time we had a Janet And John book on where you can and cannot park, for those that are thicker than a whale omelette, because parking in a legal and responsible manner seems to be beyond them.

The rules are clear but this is where I'd show a bit of common sense and compassion.
If you can barely walk ( and aren't at home with your foot up, feeling sorry for ŷourself) I'd have no problem with someone like this parking as close to the store as possible. It'd have to be pretty bad though, not just a sore toe, where my opinion would be MTFU.

[jkh112]

mp3manager said:

Mr10secs said:

So what if you are temporarily disabled, ie you really hurt your ankle at work and can barely walk, should you not be able to use the disabled bays?

No. The rules are pretty simple, no blue badge on display...no parking in a disabled bay. What part do you not understand?


I think it's high-time we had a Janet And John book on where you can and cannot park, for those that are thicker than a whale omelette, because parking in a legal and responsible manner seems to be beyond them.

This is not correct. See my earlier post.My local supermarket do not have a problem with temporarily disabled people using their private disabled spaces. They confirmed that a blue badge is not a requirement to park there. Do not confuse privately owned spaces with council spaces.

[gingerbeard]

I think that the problem is not quite that black and white. My 11yr old has severe crohns disease but apart from an NG in his nose you would think he was just a 6yr old looking at him.

The problem is that when he is unwell he cannot walk far at all, just about manages around a supermarket. When he is well he can walk much further.

We have been told we cannot have a blue badge by our council as his disability is not permanent and varies from week to week.

If he is ill then we park in the disabled bay as even that short distance makes a difference. Before he had the NG tube in his nose we had several comments from people.

Its a difficult subject really as you cannot see everyones illnesses and also councils are getting tighter and tighter with blue badges

[KFC]

mp3manager said:

Mr10secs said:

So what if you are temporarily disabled, ie you really hurt your ankle at work and can barely walk, should you not be able to use the disabled bays?

No. The rules are pretty simple, no blue badge on display...no parking in a disabled bay. What part do you not understand?

Something with a cast on his leg and 2 crutches or a chair is quite clearly in need of using the spaces. Perhaps moreso if its just a new or temporary issue, as they won't be used to hobbling around on crutches or using the wheelchair will they?

I think it would be extremely idiotic if someone was to have a go at a person like that using the spaces with no badges.

've never understood why temporary badges couldn't be issued for people like this, its bizarre. The injury not being permanent is irrelevant - we don't care how he's going to get into the shop 9 months from now, the only issue is how he's going to manage it today surely. I

[9mm]

Burwood said:

stuartmmcfc said:

ORD said:

Anyway, shouldn't a TVR driver envy anyone who's car made it to the car park without disintegrating / exploding?

Sorry but...

As a tvr owner myself I concur with the explosion comment. My take is simple. If people would mind their own business everyone would be much better off. There are so many reasons why people do things so keep your nose out and everyone is happy. I don't park in disabled bays but I would never rule it out depending on the situation.

Your approach is far too sensible for PH.

[Burwood]

9mm said:

Burwood said:

stuartmmcfc said:

ORD said:

Anyway, shouldn't a TVR driver envy anyone who's car made it to the car park without disintegrating / exploding?

Sorry but...

As a tvr owner myself I concur with the explosion comment. My take is simple. If people would mind their own business everyone would be much better off. There are so many reasons why people do things so keep your nose out and everyone is happy. I don't park in disabled bays but I would never rule it out depending on the situation.

Your approach is far too sensible for PH.

At my local waitrose the lanes up and down the carpark have arrows which denote the intended flow of traffic. But as there is only one exit it is a right faff to drive all the way around. If parked at the end I will sneak out the wrong way (it's 2 metres against the arrow). Plenty of visibility so not a big deal. I dont really welcome someone stopping and shaking their head at me. Same type at the 'baskets only' checkout. I don't like carrying a basket. The point of this checkout is for customers with a small number of purchases, say 5 or 6 which is what is in my trolley. It is common to get told by a customer behind me, 'err this is for baskets'. I was polite last time 'thanks for pointing that out' but when he tried to push in front of me I blocked his progress. I then told him to mind his own business to which he said 'im only trying to help' yeah, himself.

[gingerbeard]

I think that the problem is not quite that black and white. My 11yr old has severe crohns disease but apart from an NG in his nose you would think he was just a 6yr old looking at him.

The problem is that when he is unwell he cannot walk far at all, just about manages around a supermarket. When he is well he can walk much further.

We have been told we cannot have a blue badge by our council as his disability is not permanent and varies from week to week.

If he is ill then we park in the disabled bay as even that short distance makes a difference. Before he had the NG tube in his nose we had several comments from people.

Its a difficult subject really as you cannot see everyones illnesses and also councils are getting tighter and tighter with blue badges

[Studio117]

poo at Paul's said:

Wellard!

don't bring your dog into this Paul!

[VX Foxy]

brianb said:

Am I the only one who thinks the guy with the camera is the bigger here?

Yes

[9mm]

Burwood said:

9mm said:

Burwood said:

stuartmmcfc said:

ORD said:

Anyway, shouldn't a TVR driver envy anyone who's car made it to the car park without disintegrating / exploding?

Sorry but...

As a tvr owner myself I concur with the explosion comment. My take is simple. If people would mind their own business everyone would be much better off. There are so many reasons why people do things so keep your nose out and everyone is happy. I don't park in disabled bays but I would never rule it out depending on the situation.

Your approach is far too sensible for PH.

At my local waitrose the lanes up and down the carpark have arrows which denote the intended flow of traffic. But as there is only one exit it is a right faff to drive all the way around. If parked at the end I will sneak out the wrong way (it's 2 metres against the arrow). Plenty of visibility so not a big deal. I dont really welcome someone stopping and shaking their head at me. Same type at the 'baskets only' checkout. I don't like carrying a basket. The point of this checkout is for customers with a small number of purchases, say 5 or 6 which is what is in my trolley. It is common to get told by a customer behind me, 'err this is for baskets'. I was polite last time 'thanks for pointing that out' but when he tried to push in front of me I blocked his progress. I then told him to mind his own business to which he said 'im only trying to help' yeah, himself.

You'd get on well with me. I find blind adherence to the letter of the rule in every situation really disturbing.

[J4CKO]

jkh112 said:

mp3manager said:

Mr10secs said:

So what if you are temporarily disabled, ie you really hurt your ankle at work and can barely walk, should you not be able to use the disabled bays?

No. The rules are pretty simple, no blue badge on display...no parking in a disabled bay. What part do you not understand?


I think it's high-time we had a Janet And John book on where you can and cannot park, for those that are thicker than a whale omelette, because parking in a legal and responsible manner seems to be beyond them.

This is not correct. See my earlier post.My local supermarket do not have a problem with temporarily disabled people using their private disabled spaces. They confirmed that a blue badge is not a requirement to park there. Do not confuse privately owned spaces with council spaces.

I had tendinitis quite badly last year and it was bloody excrutiating, never considered using a disabled space as wasn't sure whether limping and wincing would convince anyone.

To be honest, based on that I would feel, at that point I would have been justified and completely within my rights to do so.

[Devil2575]

Mave said:

photosnob said:

I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space.

As well as making you selfish, it makes you ignorant. Have you actually bothered trying to work out why you need more space to manhandle a small child out of a car seat without damaging adjacent cars; or why you might need more space to keep one child safe in a pram out of the road whilst you strap the other one in? Or did you just decide that because you had no experience of children and the practical issues asociated with getting them in and out of cars in a confined space, that those issues don't exist?

Please don't start this one again. It's really not worth engaging with people like this on the subject of P&C spaces.

[TA14]

9mm said:

Burwood said:

9mm said:

Burwood said:

stuartmmcfc said:

ORD said:

Anyway, shouldn't a TVR driver envy anyone who's car made it to the car park without disintegrating / exploding?

Sorry but...

As a tvr owner myself I concur with the explosion comment. My take is simple. If people would mind their own business everyone would be much better off. There are so many reasons why people do things so keep your nose out and everyone is happy. I don't park in disabled bays but I would never rule it out depending on the situation.

Your approach is far too sensible for PH.

At my local waitrose the lanes up and down the carpark have arrows which denote the intended flow of traffic. But as there is only one exit it is a right faff to drive all the way around. If parked at the end I will sneak out the wrong way (it's 2 metres against the arrow). Plenty of visibility so not a big deal. I dont really welcome someone stopping and shaking their head at me. Same type at the 'baskets only' checkout. I don't like carrying a basket. The point of this checkout is for customers with a small number of purchases, say 5 or 6 which is what is in my trolley. It is common to get told by a customer behind me, 'err this is for baskets'. I was polite last time 'thanks for pointing that out' but when he tried to push in front of me I blocked his progress. I then told him to mind his own business to which he said 'im only trying to help' yeah, himself.

You'd get on well with me. I find blind adherence to the letter of the rule in every situation really disturbing.

OTOH OCD people get really upset seeing people with 8 or 9 items in a queue for the '10 items only' till.

[VX Foxy]

photosnob said:

Edited by photosnob on Sunday 19th April 18:05

You are an utter mouth breathing socket.

[9mm]

TA14 said:

9mm said:

Burwood said:

9mm said:

Burwood said:

stuartmmcfc said:

ORD said:

Anyway, shouldn't a TVR driver envy anyone who's car made it to the car park without disintegrating / exploding?

Sorry but...

As a tvr owner myself I concur with the explosion comment. My take is simple. If people would mind their own business everyone would be much better off. There are so many reasons why people do things so keep your nose out and everyone is happy. I don't park in disabled bays but I would never rule it out depending on the situation.

Your approach is far too sensible for PH.

At my local waitrose the lanes up and down the carpark have arrows which denote the intended flow of traffic. But as there is only one exit it is a right faff to drive all the way around. If parked at the end I will sneak out the wrong way (it's 2 metres against the arrow). Plenty of visibility so not a big deal. I dont really welcome someone stopping and shaking their head at me. Same type at the 'baskets only' checkout. I don't like carrying a basket. The point of this checkout is for customers with a small number of purchases, say 5 or 6 which is what is in my trolley. It is common to get told by a customer behind me, 'err this is for baskets'. I was polite last time 'thanks for pointing that out' but when he tried to push in front of me I blocked his progress. I then told him to mind his own business to which he said 'im only trying to help' yeah, himself.

You'd get on well with me. I find blind adherence to the letter of the rule in every situation really disturbing.

OTOH OCD people get really upset seeing people with 8 or 9 items in a queue for the '10 items only' till.

[Europa1]

VX Foxy said:

You are an utter mouth breathing socket.

Don't sugarcoat it, VXFoxy!

[Sad Ken]

photosnob said:

I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space. it's just a marketing gimmick for self entitled parents.

Nah, doesn't make you selfish.

Makes you one of those ignorant self opinionated be11ends who take great pleasure in proving a point while rubbing others up the wrong way.