Disabled bay abuser confronted.
Discussion
J4CKO said:
stuartmmcfc said:
If we (the disabled) all had one of these, it would soon stop all this trouble about who parks in disabled bays and petty jealousy.
...There may be a certain amount of nostalgia for an unlikely icon of a bygone era but damn, they cannot have done much for a disabled persons self respect, that said, being mobile is the main thing, I have had a go of a couple of mobility scooters as a couple of mates have them and they are quite pleasant to use, the freedom my mates have with them is amazing.
Before my grandparents passed away they did everything for her, (Cerebral palsy) difficulty walking etc., once she was alone she came out of her shell and did everything possible. The little blue car changed her enormously. J4CKO said:
If the driver had a disabled child or pregnant wife and explained that to the guy filming then I guess we would not have seen the video, I had a woman berate me for parking my Fiat Coupe Turbo in a disabled bay at work, I said to her "Just bear with me" and helped my mate with Cerebral Palsy out of the car, into his chair and into the office, I then moved the car to a normal space and spoke to her, she was mortified but I just said that she was right to challenge me. We do need to get the full picture, I think RR man was just parking there with no reason in this case, but it is easy to look a pillock in these situations even with the best intentions.
This.The only time I have ever been tempted to, and actually used a disabled bay was a number of years ago when dropping off a friend who had hurt their leg. Even then I felt guilty for the whole 60 seconds or so I was there.
As far as I am concerned Disabled bays are sacrosanct and not to be parked in unless you have the correct badges and so on. The only bye I would give is for the dropping off of temporarily disabled passengers, be fore finding an appropriate normal space to park in.
Parent and Child bays are something I am less in favour of. Not because I don't have a child, but because they are rampantly abused by people. Most of whom likely do have a child, just not with them... As such I would like to see an end to these and have them just labelled as extra wide spaces so we can all use them guilt free when free - never going to happen though!
I agree with Rude Boy on this.
I popped down to the shops at about 2145 last night to get some bits and bobs, there are three disabled spaces (all empty), at the rear of the shops, and a further fifty or so 'normal' spaces in a free car park about 20m further along.
It didn't cross my mind to park in the disabled bays at all, despite it being late at night and both car parks were empty, because I'm not disabled.
I popped down to the shops at about 2145 last night to get some bits and bobs, there are three disabled spaces (all empty), at the rear of the shops, and a further fifty or so 'normal' spaces in a free car park about 20m further along.
It didn't cross my mind to park in the disabled bays at all, despite it being late at night and both car parks were empty, because I'm not disabled.
Sad Ken said:
photosnob said:
I regularly park in parent and child spaces. I have no kids, and never have children with me. If that makes me selfish I don't care. I fail to see how having a child means you have to park closer to the supermarket, or need a bigger space. it's just a marketing gimmick for self entitled parents.
Nah, doesn't make you selfish.Makes you one of those ignorant self opinionated be11ends who take great pleasure in proving a point while rubbing others up the wrong way.
Issi said:
I agree with Rude Boy on this.
I popped down to the shops at about 2145 last night to get some bits and bobs, there are three disabled spaces (all empty), at the rear of the shops, and a further fifty or so 'normal' spaces in a free car park about 20m further along.
It didn't cross my mind to park in the disabled bays at all, despite it being late at night and both car parks were empty, because I'm not disabled.
Precisely!I popped down to the shops at about 2145 last night to get some bits and bobs, there are three disabled spaces (all empty), at the rear of the shops, and a further fifty or so 'normal' spaces in a free car park about 20m further along.
It didn't cross my mind to park in the disabled bays at all, despite it being late at night and both car parks were empty, because I'm not disabled.
In 29 years of driving I can quite honestly say I’ve never parked in a disabled space (as someone else mentioned earlier on) - I’ve the full use of 2 legs and 20 yards walk is never a problem.
As with many things it all boils down to education and upbringing.
I like to think I know right from wrong and demonstrate this not just in driving but in everyday life as well, in fact you’ll probably find that the people who ‘just’ park in these spaces are the same people who cause multitudes of other problems throughout their life, personifying the ‘f
k it’ attitude if you will.There is a link to it on Rate Driver: http://rate-driver.co.uk/SK62SGX
RichB said:
J4CKO said:
stuartmmcfc said:
If we (the disabled) all had one of these, it would soon stop all this trouble about who parks in disabled bays and petty jealousy.
...There may be a certain amount of nostalgia for an unlikely icon of a bygone era but damn, they cannot have done much for a disabled persons self respect, that said, being mobile is the main thing, I have had a go of a couple of mobility scooters as a couple of mates have them and they are quite pleasant to use, the freedom my mates have with them is amazing. Before my grandparents passed away they did everything for her, (Cerebral palsy) difficulty walking etc., once she was alone she came out of her shell and did everything possible. The little blue car changed her enormously. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-23061676
I find it odd how people will go out of their way to use these spaces, just to prove a point. You don't like the fact parents get extra wide spaces? So fking what? Is your life really that miserable that you need to stage a sad little protest at it? I don't like kids, I despise a lot of the Mummy culture around the spawn too, but fk me complaining about being 100 yards further away and spaces that are a few inches smaller? Get a grip.
king what? Is your life really that miserable that you need to stage a sad little protest at it? I don't like kids, I despise a lot of the Mummy culture around the spawn too, but fk me complaining about being 100 yards further away and spaces that are a few inches smaller? Get a grip.Rude-boy said:
Parent and Child bays are something I am less in favour of. Not because I don't have a child, but because they are rampantly abused by people. Most of whom likely do have a child, just not with them... As such I would like to see an end to these and have them just labelled as extra wide spaces so we can all use them guilt free when free - never going to happen though!
Going to have to disagree here. Parent and child spaces are very important. I.M speaking as a Dad and a petrol head here too!When I go to the shops with my son, I have to open the door fairly wide to get him out. Usually on normal spaces the door either opens to the first notch which is too small, or will hit the parked car next to me. Either isn't acceptable really. So using the Parent and child spaces means I don't have to worry about damaging my car, not someone elses either. Of course if I can find a space that’s empty I will park there, but you cant stop someone parking next to you once you return.
So when someone without a child uses them, that means theres going to be a parent trying to squeeze their child out potentially near your car rather than using that very spot. So PandC spaces actually help petrolheads to avoid dents when they are used by the people they are meant for.
So in a way they are actually PH friendly.
spats said:
Going to have to disagree here. Parent and child spaces are very important. I.M speaking as a Dad and a petrol head here too!
When I go to the shops with my son, I have to open the door fairly wide to get him out. Usually on normal spaces the door either opens to the first notch which is too small, or will hit the parked car next to me. Either isn't acceptable really. So using the Parent and child spaces means I don't have to worry about damaging my car, not someone elses either. Of course if I can find a space that’s empty I will park there, but you cant stop someone parking next to you once you return.
The problem is that the stage in which you have to open the door wide is only age up to around 2 or 3 years, but people use them with children of any age.When I go to the shops with my son, I have to open the door fairly wide to get him out. Usually on normal spaces the door either opens to the first notch which is too small, or will hit the parked car next to me. Either isn't acceptable really. So using the Parent and child spaces means I don't have to worry about damaging my car, not someone elses either. Of course if I can find a space that’s empty I will park there, but you cant stop someone parking next to you once you return.
They are there because people with children spend more money in supermarkets, so it makes sense to offer preferential parking as a marketing ploy.
rscott said:
Surely it makes sense to put the P&C spaces further away from the entrance? Then those who use them 'because they're close' won't use them and those who actually need them will be able to ?
They don't care who needs them: it's just to get parents to spend money in the store.thelawnet said:
spats said:
Going to have to disagree here. Parent and child spaces are very important. I.M speaking as a Dad and a petrol head here too!
When I go to the shops with my son, I have to open the door fairly wide to get him out. Usually on normal spaces the door either opens to the first notch which is too small, or will hit the parked car next to me. Either isn't acceptable really. So using the Parent and child spaces means I don't have to worry about damaging my car, not someone elses either. Of course if I can find a space that’s empty I will park there, but you cant stop someone parking next to you once you return.
The problem is that the stage in which you have to open the door wide is only age up to around 2 or 3 years, but people use them with children of any age.When I go to the shops with my son, I have to open the door fairly wide to get him out. Usually on normal spaces the door either opens to the first notch which is too small, or will hit the parked car next to me. Either isn't acceptable really. So using the Parent and child spaces means I don't have to worry about damaging my car, not someone elses either. Of course if I can find a space that’s empty I will park there, but you cant stop someone parking next to you once you return.
They are there because people with children spend more money in supermarkets, so it makes sense to offer preferential parking as a marketing ploy.
rscott said:
Surely it makes sense to put the P&C spaces further away from the entrance? Then those who use them 'because they're close' won't use them and those who actually need them will be able to ?
I can just imagine the daily mail article now, when Waynetta gets run over by a car walking from the spaces to the shop (even though it touched her, and she never left her feet)evilandy said:
There is a link to it on Rate Driver: http://rate-driver.co.uk/SK62SGX
Interesting.Range Rover driver does appear to be in the wrong (I took his references to having his kids with him as a reason to object to filming, not as the reason for him being in the bay), but the guy filming did come over as an unbelievably sanctimonious prick who went out of his way to cause a scene.
RichB said:
y aunt (Mum's sister) had one of those, she lived alone in Barnes, we lived in Ealing. Once she passed her test she was delighted to be able to drive over to see my mum in Ealing for some company. It gave her complete independence and rather than as you say doing nothing for her self respect, the contrary was true because she was proud to have passed her driving test and be able to go anywhere. She was also proud to say she would drive it round Hammersmith Broadway! I drove the thing once, it was bloody lethal! Before my grandparents passed away they did everything for her, (Cerebral palsy) difficulty walking etc., once she was alone she came out of her shell and did everything possible. The little blue car changed her enormously.
I'll never forget the bloke who used to come to out Primary School every Wednesday in one of those. Dad mentioned that it wasn't enough that the poor bloke couldn't walk they then made him drive about in a death trap like those. Sadly the poor chap in question did meet his maker in one of them, with the aid of a 36 tonner.... Before my grandparents passed away they did everything for her, (Cerebral palsy) difficulty walking etc., once she was alone she came out of her shell and did everything possible. The little blue car changed her enormously. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff