Disabled bay abuser confronted.

[Gandahar]

thelawnet said:

Gandahar said:

Problem is how does the Range Rover know two disabled drivers turn up? they won't put their badge up until they stop and they certainly won't get out of the car, perhaps make their wheelchair, roll around to the Range Rover driver and ask if he could move will they. No they will simply park in a non disabled spot and then struggle.

I posted the Streetview earlier, there are dozens of disabled bays.

I#m talking about Piersman2 comment, sorry I should have quoted !

[Issi]

thelawnet said:

Gandahar said:

Problem is how does the Range Rover know two disabled drivers turn up? they won't put their badge up until they stop and they certainly won't get out of the car, perhaps make their wheelchair, roll around to the Range Rover driver and ask if he could move will they. No they will simply park in a non disabled spot and then struggle.

I posted the Streetview earlier, there are dozens of disabled bays.

Well, in that case he's perfectly justified to use a space that he's not entitled to.

[Redgate]

Wow, just wow. 17 pages of people trying to justify the unjustifiable, choosing deliberately to ignore common sense and courtesy, and trying to derail the topic when they run out of arguments.

Why is it so hard to understand that disable bays are reserved for people who are disabled?

Unless, of course, selfishness is a congenital defect. In which case some of the posters are entitled to use said bays without a badge.

[T5XARV]

Pulled halfway onto the pavement (its plenty wide) to unload a large piece of furniture. Hazards on. Opened the door paying attention/courtesy to passing traffic then this nutter and wife, each on mobility scooters appear from nowhere going at a fair lick....I wait behind my car for them to pass and receive a volley of abuse from the (enormous) guy along the lines of 'Nice parking ! Not !' etc....I yell after him that its MY shop and I'm unloading. To my amazement he hits the brakes and is yelling so I wander up and ask him just what is the problem. 'We had to go single file ! We NEVER go single file !' then they were off, and I watched in astonishment as pedestrians politely stepped into the road in order to avoid this rude pair.

[stuartmmcfc]

T5XARV said:

Pulled halfway onto the pavement (its plenty wide) to unload a large piece of furniture. Hazards on. Opened the door paying attention/courtesy to passing traffic then this nutter and wife, each on mobility scooters appear from nowhere going at a fair lick....I wait behind my car for them to pass and receive a volley of abuse from the (enormous) guy along the lines of 'Nice parking ! Not !' etc....I yell after him that its MY shop and I'm unloading. To my amazement he hits the brakes and is yelling so I wander up and ask him just what is the problem. 'We had to go single file ! We NEVER go single file !' then they were off, and I watched in astonishment as pedestrians politely stepped into the road in order to avoid this rude pair.

Should have punched him.

[Hackney]

thelawnet said:

Gandahar said:

Problem is how does the Range Rover know two disabled drivers turn up? they won't put their badge up until they stop and they certainly won't get out of the car, perhaps make their wheelchair, roll around to the Range Rover driver and ask if he could move will they. No they will simply park in a non disabled spot and then struggle.

I posted the Streetview earlier, there are dozens of disabled bays.

And many, many dozens of ignorant pricks. Your point?

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T5XARV said:

Pulled halfway onto the pavement (its plenty wide) to unload a large piece of furniture. Hazards on. Opened the door paying attention/courtesy to passing traffic then this nutter and wife, each on mobility scooters appear from nowhere going at a fair lick....I wait behind my car for them to pass and receive a volley of abuse from the (enormous) guy along the lines of 'Nice parking ! Not !' etc....I yell after him that its MY shop and I'm unloading. To my amazement he hits the brakes and is yelling so I wander up and ask him just what is the problem. 'We had to go single file ! We NEVER go single file !' then they were off, and I watched in astonishment as pedestrians politely stepped into the road in order to avoid this rude pair.

Parking only halfway on the footpath seems quite considerate. Locally quite a few people park entirely on the footpath. It's not their fault as the lefty council has put Double Yellow Lines on the road. And a large number of the paving slabs are cracked because they weren't designed to take the weight of Transits and 4x4s (again, a lack of forward thinking by the Council!). This could cause problems / trip hazards for people pushing prams or the elderly but it's easier for them to walk in the road rather than try to squeeze past the parked cars.

[thelawnet]

Issi said:

Well, in that case he's perfectly justified to use a space that he's not entitled to.

As has already been explained, there are no specific rules governing disabled bays in private car parks. We don't know this man's circumstances, beyond the fact that the filming bloke thinks he's a paedophile, and a goat fker, because he looks Pakistani, and he's got a Range Rover, which is bound to wind people up too. So there is no way of saying whether he was entitled to use the space.

The retail park has chosen to provide ample disabled parking, presumably partly because some people use it who do not necessarily need it (it is clear from this thread and elsewhere that most people do not), and this should reduce the incidence of people trying to stir up st by confronting people and waving cameras in their faces, and confronting people based on their car ('You can't be disabled in a nice car'), age or other factors, though obviously not to zero.

[VX Foxy]

There don't need to be specific rules about disabled or PnC spaces, as decent people will apply their own rules of decency.
Unfortunately, s will not.

[thelawnet]

VX Foxy said:

There don't need to be specific rules about disabled or PnC spaces, as decent people will apply their own rules of decency.
Unfortunately, s will not.

There are specific rules on public roads. Because you can do things like parking on double yellow lines, and not pay for parking and so on, so potentially a blue badge is a valuable (in money terms) asset.

On a retail park it's obviously not so critical, because there is typically ample free parking.

[Issi]

I can't understand why you are so insistent on defending people who act like inconsiderate tossers.

This puts me in mind of the defence arguments you often read in the news - ' My client is sorry for mugging those people, but you must understand that his father passed away 10 years ago and his local pool team had folded and this should be taken into consideration'

It's perfectly obvious why the chap parked where he did, and that's because he couldn't be arsed to park further away, and not because he, his children or his wife were disabled and he'd mislaid his badge.

[Seventy]

Piersman2 said:

I don't care too much what other people think of me, particularly not random strangers.

And here is the problem with modern society in a short but succinct statement.
I really do despair sometimes.

[Mave]

thelawnet said:

There are specific rules on public roads. Because you can do things like parking on double yellow lines, and not pay for parking and so on, so potentially a blue badge is a valuable (in money terms) asset.

On a retail park it's obviously not so critical, because there is typically ample free parking.

And yet despite all that ample free parking, there are still tossers who use the spaces specifically set aside for someone else.

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Issi said:

I can't understand why you are so insistent on defending people who act like inconsiderate tossers.

I'd hazard a guess that the "defenders" do so because they are happy to do the same themselves.

[Slaav]

From my understanding (which may well be flawed as usual) there is a planning requirement on Disabled spaces ratio?

If you have a car park that is tiny, there still need to be Hoye badge spaces. Huge? There need to GE more.

This may well explain list of threads on parking?



OTOH just don't be a cock? The fault here lies with the prick in the RR! Park like a and on occasion you will be called out on it......

[Zoobeef]

I really don't understand the current trend of facing up too people (usually on camera)
Just do the right (british) thing and scowl quietly to yourself while shaking your head and if you really want to escalate it then shake your fist when they aren't looking.

[J4CKO]

2013BRM said:

J4CKO said:

Piersman2 said:

J4CKO said:

Piersman2 said:

Oh my god!!! Moral outrages at full bore.

I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.

It was a busy small local carpark. There were two empty disabled spaces. I parked in one whilst my OH went into the shop to get a couple of bits.

I sat in the car with the engine running quite happy to move at a moments notice if it so happened that 2 disabled drivers arrived in the 5 minutes my OH was in the shop.

I'm also quite happy to use disabled toilets. Send me straight to hell.

There was only 1 prick in that video, only 1 passive-aggressive, abusive, dhead out to create some grief and confrontation. And he wasn't sat in the car.

They aren't there for you regardless of whether you are prepared to move, whilst you are sat in readiness people are going past thinking what a you are.

I don't care too much what other people think of me, particularly not random strangers.

Good job...

oh ffs, find something worthwhile to get insulting about, the man said there were other spaces available, he was sat in the car engine running. People do it all the time at our Tescos to nip to the cashpoint, no one gets upset, no one dies, everyone acts like rational adults

Where was the insult ?

I was pointing out that if you park in disabled spots if not displaying a badge, or some obvious mobility issue then people will be thinking less than positive things, whatever the reason, a lot won't care, a tiny percentage will have something to say, I just think it isn't worth the potential agro.

[VX Foxy]

Zoobeef said:

I really don't understand the current trend of facing up too people (usually on camera)
Just do the right (british) thing and scowl quietly to yourself while shaking your head and if you really want to escalate it then shake your fist when they aren't looking.

Haha! Or cut out the middleman and shout about it on the Internet

[thelawnet]

Issi said:

I can't understand why you are so insistent on defending people who act like inconsiderate tossers.

Because the bloke filming is also a tosser.

Issi said:

It's perfectly obvious why the chap parked where he did, and that's because he couldn't be arsed to park further away, and not because he, his children or his wife were disabled and he'd mislaid his badge.

It's quite likely, but plenty of people have already pointed out that they have been subject to abuse for 'not looking disabled'/driving a posh car/etc., and it just doesn't seem like this sort of thing needs encouraging.

[blueg33]

Slaav said:

From my understanding (which may well be flawed as usual) there is a planning requirement on Disabled spaces ratio?

If you have a car park that is tiny, there still need to be Hoye badge spaces. Huge? There need to GE more.

This may well explain list of threads on parking?



OTOH just don't be a cock? The fault here lies with the prick in the RR! Park like a and on occasion you will be called out on it......

You are correct on the planning point.

IMO you are also correct about RR knob