Disabled bay abuser confronted.
Discussion
Martin_M said:
Piersman2 said:
BrownBottle said:
Piersman2 said:
I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.
Another vote for you being a tosser from me as well I'm afraid. You shouldn't have used the space, hopefully the feedback in this thread will make you think twice in the future.Piersman2 said:
Martin_M said:
Piersman2 said:
BrownBottle said:
Piersman2 said:
I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.
Another vote for you being a tosser from me as well I'm afraid. You shouldn't have used the space, hopefully the feedback in this thread will make you think twice in the future.Piersman2 said:
Martin_M said:
Piersman2 said:
BrownBottle said:
Piersman2 said:
I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.
Another vote for you being a tosser from me as well I'm afraid. You shouldn't have used the space, hopefully the feedback in this thread will make you think twice in the future.Piersman2 said:
Did you actually expect me to offer some kind of apology and beg your forgiveness after you've made you opinion of me so obvious? You think I'm an arrogant tosser, what I think of you based on your comments I'll keep to myself.
No I didn't expect anything of the sort, I just thought it might be a positive move from yourself to take on board the feedback you have had from both able bodied and disabled people in this thread.Although I doubt you would admit to having a think about it whilst on the defensive, fair enough.
Piersman2 said:
Martin_M said:
Piersman2 said:
BrownBottle said:
Piersman2 said:
I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.
Another vote for you being a tosser from me as well I'm afraid. You shouldn't have used the space, hopefully the feedback in this thread will make you think twice in the future.Piersman2 said:
Martin_M said:
Piersman2 said:
BrownBottle said:
Piersman2 said:
I have a Range Rover. I also parked in a disabled space earlier this afternoon.
Another vote for you being a tosser from me as well I'm afraid. You shouldn't have used the space, hopefully the feedback in this thread will make you think twice in the future.
My mum had a blue badge from may 2011 until may 2014. Barn door stuff. Issued without any query
On trying to renew in 2014, the council had given the contract for assessment of applications to a private company. Mum became far more disabled and worthy of a blue badge between 2011 and 2014. The idiot assessment bint refused the application
Long story short, I appealed on behalf of mum. Consultants who should be caring for patients got involved. And the badge was granted approximately 4 months after the first had expired. During this time, I parked in disabled bays in car parks without a blue badge but only when I had mum and her walking four wheeler aid.
Camera man is a knob. RR guy is too
On trying to renew in 2014, the council had given the contract for assessment of applications to a private company. Mum became far more disabled and worthy of a blue badge between 2011 and 2014. The idiot assessment bint refused the application
Long story short, I appealed on behalf of mum. Consultants who should be caring for patients got involved. And the badge was granted approximately 4 months after the first had expired. During this time, I parked in disabled bays in car parks without a blue badge but only when I had mum and her walking four wheeler aid.
Camera man is a knob. RR guy is too
There's three things about disabled bays that to me is taking the p1ss.
1) non disabled folks using a disabled bay in stores.
2) mothers with kids using a disabled bay in stores
3) disabled folks ,using the bays to drop off a non disabled person ,and not exiting the car.
Lets take one of the simplest cases of disability in UK today -- hip/knee problems, where walking and getting out of car in a tight space is a problem .You need to be able to open the door fully. Then there's the pain of lifting the foot over the sill . Imagine you have a hip /knee problem that makes bending the leg painful ,and ( in the case of the right leg) try getting into the driving seat. I get it every time. The easiest way is to have the seat fully retracted and sit at right angles to the car, using the seatbelt as a support. You lower yourself into car ,and then turn in the seat, to get the left leg in . This places strain ( and pain on the hip joint). Next the right leg has to be lifted over the sill . Again painful.
Then there's case 3 - possibly the disabled folks most likely to agitate over misuse of disabled spaces - sort of like the biblical saying of casting the mote out of your eye.
And in the case of 2- reverse the situation, as the disabled spaces are taken by mothers with kids and you'll be verbally abused buy a group of feral mothers . Personally, I blame the tea and food in our local maternity which upsets their eyesight into mistaking a wheelchair sign for a pushchair
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1) non disabled folks using a disabled bay in stores.
2) mothers with kids using a disabled bay in stores
3) disabled folks ,using the bays to drop off a non disabled person ,and not exiting the car.
Lets take one of the simplest cases of disability in UK today -- hip/knee problems, where walking and getting out of car in a tight space is a problem .You need to be able to open the door fully. Then there's the pain of lifting the foot over the sill . Imagine you have a hip /knee problem that makes bending the leg painful ,and ( in the case of the right leg) try getting into the driving seat. I get it every time. The easiest way is to have the seat fully retracted and sit at right angles to the car, using the seatbelt as a support. You lower yourself into car ,and then turn in the seat, to get the left leg in . This places strain ( and pain on the hip joint). Next the right leg has to be lifted over the sill . Again painful.
Then there's case 3 - possibly the disabled folks most likely to agitate over misuse of disabled spaces - sort of like the biblical saying of casting the mote out of your eye.
And in the case of 2- reverse the situation, as the disabled spaces are taken by mothers with kids and you'll be verbally abused buy a group of feral mothers . Personally, I blame the tea and food in our local maternity which upsets their eyesight into mistaking a wheelchair sign for a pushchair
.johnxjsc1985 said:
I would have blocked the little f
ker in and gone for about two or three hours.
Ignorance is not suposed to be a defense. What sort of sick fk self indulgent moron would take the spot of a person who really needs it because they are diabled.
+1ker in and gone for about two or three hours.Ignorance is not suposed to be a defense. What sort of sick f
k self indulgent moron would take the spot of a person who really needs it because they are diabled.Fed up of non disabled people parking in disabled spots. Each space should be filmed & offenders fined.
johnxjsc1985 said:
I would have blocked the little fker in and gone for about two or three hours.
Ignorance is not suposed to be a defense. What sort of sick fk self indulgent moron would take the spot of a person who really needs it because they are diabled.
Even if he was in the car and perfectly willing to move if asked? ker in and gone for about two or three hours.Ignorance is not suposed to be a defense. What sort of sick f
k self indulgent moron would take the spot of a person who really needs it because they are diabled.If you'd block him in like that it seems like you'd just be looking to cause a scene and/or unnecessarily risking getting your own head kicked in or your car vandalised.
KFC said:
Even if he was in the car and perfectly willing to move if asked?
If you'd block him in like that it seems like you'd just be looking to cause a scene and/or unnecessarily risking getting your own head kicked in or your car vandalised.
yes he was a real hardcase having a go at a bloke with sticks.If you'd block him in like that it seems like you'd just be looking to cause a scene and/or unnecessarily risking getting your own head kicked in or your car vandalised.
Why is it these people think the rules do not apply to them what makes them so special.
KFC said:
stuartmmcfc said:
Beeping and gesticulating is easily misunderstood as an aggressive act by some and the results can be seen in the clip.
Personally I try to avoid these situations as I no longer have the confidence to deal with these situations.
I have on occasion left the car park as there's no free disabled spots,ar great inconvience, rather than risk a confrontation.
You seem to want to make an issue out of something when there isn't one.Personally I try to avoid these situations as I no longer have the confidence to deal with these situations.
I have on occasion left the car park as there's no free disabled spots,ar great inconvience, rather than risk a confrontation.
You wouldn't have had to signal to him - there was another disabled space available. And even if someone took that one and he didn't move, if someone needed his they can presumably manage to beep their horn, roll down their window and speak to him, or signal with your hands that you need in the space. Its not rocket science is it?
Why should I have to pip my horn and risk a confrontation?
How does anyone predict the arrival of disabled people? At my local Tescos there can be 5 empty spaces, 5 minutes later they're all full.
How would I even know if the car is carrying a displaying a disabled person? The badge is displayed at the front and if I can't see that, am I meant to assume that if it's a nice car/RR/van/Audi then they can't be disabled and are abusing the system?
By the way, I only have the use of one arm, so pipping the horn and waving my hand isn't possible in my case.
Simple really, if you're not disabled, don't use disabled parking spaces,
It's not brain surgery.
stuartmmcfc said:
Beeping and gesticulating is easily misunderstood as an aggressive act by some and the results can be seen in the clip.
Personally I try to avoid these situations as I no longer have the confidence to deal with these situations.
I have on occasion left the car park as there's no free disabled spots,ar great inconvience, rather than risk a confrontation.
I do that also.Personally I try to avoid these situations as I no longer have the confidence to deal with these situations.
I have on occasion left the car park as there's no free disabled spots,ar great inconvience, rather than risk a confrontation.
There's an ever increasing number of 'ables', who think nothing of abusing a disabled space or even a blue-badge. Victimless crime apparently.
I spotted this tosser in a disabled bay with the old-style badge, which has also had the details bleached by the sun, but I still reported them for blue-badge fraud.
EDIT: And because the 'able' was abusing the space, I had to park on the double yellows opposite....that really annoys some 'ables'.
Edited by mp3manager on Saturday 18th April 23:10
stuartmmcfc said:
KFC said:
stuartmmcfc said:
Beeping and gesticulating is easily misunderstood as an aggressive act by some and the results can be seen in the clip.
Personally I try to avoid these situations as I no longer have the confidence to deal with these situations.
I have on occasion left the car park as there's no free disabled spots,ar great inconvience, rather than risk a confrontation.
You seem to want to make an issue out of something when there isn't one.Personally I try to avoid these situations as I no longer have the confidence to deal with these situations.
I have on occasion left the car park as there's no free disabled spots,ar great inconvience, rather than risk a confrontation.
You wouldn't have had to signal to him - there was another disabled space available. And even if someone took that one and he didn't move, if someone needed his they can presumably manage to beep their horn, roll down their window and speak to him, or signal with your hands that you need in the space. Its not rocket science is it?
Why should I have to pip my horn and risk a confrontation?
How does anyone predict the arrival of disabled people? At my local Tescos there can be 5 empty spaces, 5 minutes later they're all full.
How would I even know if the car is carrying a displaying a disabled person? The badge is displayed at the front and if I can't see that, am I meant to assume that if it's a nice car/RR/van/Audi then they can't be disabled and are abusing the system?
By the way, I only have the use of one arm, so pipping the horn and waving my hand isn't possible in my case.
Simple really, if you're not disabled, don't use disabled parking spaces,
It's not brain surgery.
Its a completely different ballgame to just abandoning a car in a disabled spot and leaving it there for 8 hours.
its like speeding... nobody here is going to think you're a dick for doing 94mph on the motorway at 3am. But do 50mph past a school at 3pm and they will. Both technically wrong... but different levels of wrong.
Surely the rule is clear though?,,,no parking in a disabled bay without a permit?...not "no parking if a disable person needs it.". For me its a bright line, as it is for the vast majority of people. Of course there are people abusing the system, as they do in many countries. The solution is not to think"there is a lot of fraud, so I'll be flexible in interpretation too".
They were both unpleasant people, no question. However, the parker should not have been there. Can't see any part of the regulation that permits it.
Its like people taking double spaces in carparks 'because there is lots of space and its empty". Prime candidates to keying, unfortunately.
They were both unpleasant people, no question. However, the parker should not have been there. Can't see any part of the regulation that permits it.
Its like people taking double spaces in carparks 'because there is lots of space and its empty". Prime candidates to keying, unfortunately.
It is that simple and it is black and white.
If you don't have a disability, think for a second andshow some compassion and understanding and park somewhere else.
To use your example and run with it (I wish
), if it's 3am then I don't really think it's a problem to park in a disabled bay regardless of your health. Just use some common.
If you don't have a disability, think for a second andshow some compassion and understanding and park somewhere else.
To use your example and run with it (I wish
), if it's 3am then I don't really think it's a problem to park in a disabled bay regardless of your health. Just use some common.RDMcG said:
Surely the rule is clear though?,,,no parking in a disabled bay without a permit?...not "no parking if a disable person needs it.".
So would you extend that line of thinking to "the motorway speed limit is 70mph. Just because you can't see another car in sight and its 3am it doesn't mean you should go a bit faster" ?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff