HGV vs caravan smash on the M6
Discussion
RogerVulva said:
I don't think the truck driver was at fault at all. Certainly a lack of courtesy but I'd probably be the same to be honest.
Then you're ridiculous. The HGV should have eased off to let him in. Most people have been here; probably realised late they've missed their exit so need to recover. There's no need for a crash over it. Stupid posturing from the HGV driver.
It follows (in my logic) that if you purchase a caravan, you should immediately surrender your driving license. Keeps idiots off the road for good but still lets them 'holiday' on their drive.
Videos like this reinforce my view.
Both drivers were pigheaded and in the wrong, but the car driver took action that was stubborn beyond belief. Didn't help that he was trying to filter into a turn only a few hundred yards before the exit.
Videos like this reinforce my view.
Both drivers were pigheaded and in the wrong, but the car driver took action that was stubborn beyond belief. Didn't help that he was trying to filter into a turn only a few hundred yards before the exit.
Facts of the matter from the video evidence : Trucker in correct lane for exit, held his line and course, didn't traverse any lanes etc = 0 fault. CRV all over the road, not in correct lane, not got a clue how to drive, crossing lane markings without checking it's clear to make the manoeuvre, trying to use size of vehicle to intimidate and force other road users to yield to him = 100% at fault.
I'd have done exactly the same thing. Nobheads like the CRV driver need to be taught such lessons the hard way. Well done to the trucker.
I'd have done exactly the same thing. Nobheads like the CRV driver need to be taught such lessons the hard way. Well done to the trucker.
wibblebrain said:
The HGV driver could clearly see what was going to happen, but chose to be bloody minded and not let him in. If he'd eased off he could have let the guy in and there would have been no accident.
I'm not saying the CRV driver was in the right - no way: but the HGV driver was clear partially to blame because he could have taken avoiding action, but instead deliberately chose not to let him in.
IMO the CRV driver was in the wrong, but the HGV driver is clearly the bigger t
t of the two.
Absolutely, a little consideration would have gone a long way , the CRV driver was having to almost stop in a live lane of the motorway I'm not saying the CRV driver was in the right - no way: but the HGV driver was clear partially to blame because he could have taken avoiding action, but instead deliberately chose not to let him in.
IMO the CRV driver was in the wrong, but the HGV driver is clearly the bigger t
t of the two. Edited by wibblebrain on Monday 20th April 00:08
Totally avoidable , having a camera fitted seems to mean you can drive like a dick as long as you are in the right
Its a very tricky one, I place the blame solely on the CRV for attempting to carry out such am move. However the HGV could have prevented an accident by braking.
I have a HGV license and used to drive professionally, you would not believe how many idiots are incapable of seeing a big white truck on a daily basis - honestly its beyond belief, so when some idiot tries to do that to you I understand why he didn't let him in.
If I'm honest I learnt pretty quickly to just shake my head and carry on, otherwise my blood would be boiling all day long. I always found the slow sarcastic clap worked well when congratulating someone on a spectacular move.
I have a HGV license and used to drive professionally, you would not believe how many idiots are incapable of seeing a big white truck on a daily basis - honestly its beyond belief, so when some idiot tries to do that to you I understand why he didn't let him in.
If I'm honest I learnt pretty quickly to just shake my head and carry on, otherwise my blood would be boiling all day long. I always found the slow sarcastic clap worked well when congratulating someone on a spectacular move.
liner33 said:
wibblebrain said:
The HGV driver could clearly see what was going to happen, but chose to be bloody minded and not let him in. If he'd eased off he could have let the guy in and there would have been no accident.
I'm not saying the CRV driver was in the right - no way: but the HGV driver was clear partially to blame because he could have taken avoiding action, but instead deliberately chose not to let him in.
IMO the CRV driver was in the wrong, but the HGV driver is clearly the bigger tt of the two.
Absolutely, a little consideration would have gone a long way , the CRV driver was having to almost stop in a live lane of the motorway I'm not saying the CRV driver was in the right - no way: but the HGV driver was clear partially to blame because he could have taken avoiding action, but instead deliberately chose not to let him in.
IMO the CRV driver was in the wrong, but the HGV driver is clearly the bigger t
t of the two. Edited by wibblebrain on Monday 20th April 00:08
Totally avoidable , having a camera fitted seems to mean you can drive like a dick as long as you are in the right
So the CRV driver can drive like a dick (-1), be in the wrong (-1) but get more sympathy. (Driving score = -2
)How can you change lanes if the space is not clear and not expect to cause an accident.
Yes, the HGV is bloody minded but that isn't the point.
Edited by so called on Monday 20th April 07:49
mp3manager said:
Judging by the camera height and the height of the CRV in relation to the bottom of the windscreen, it's not a proper truck and more probably a 7.5 tonner, which are usually driven by steering wheel attendants or car-drivers pretending to be proper truckers.
And the point of your post is, what, precisely?The truck driver could have avoided the incident, how ever it was the crv that was changing lanes, so entriley his fault. The is plenty on signage for that junction, so I don't buy he "just missed it" he could also have gone down to the next junction and doubled back.
Truck driver was bloody minded.
CRV driver is dangerous and shouldn't be on the road.
Truck driver was bloody minded.
CRV driver is dangerous and shouldn't be on the road.
Once the truck had hit the crvfor the first time (sliding along him) I would have thought crv would have got the general idea that he wasn't getting in (over the give way line and into lane already occupied by truck) - so why then drive around the front of truck.... Prize tit, and his fault entirely.
Willy Nilly said:
CRV had to yield to the HGV, it didn't and got hit. Tough. Yes, the lorry perhaps could have let it in, but didn't. No sympathy from me.
This ^Car tried to push in, lorry driver made it clear that he wasn't having any of it, car driver insists on carrying on pushing in.
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