HGV vs caravan smash on the M6

[vonhosen]

untakenname said:

Imo the caravan driver is 100% at fault, he probably does it day in day out to other road users and finally got his comeuppance.

One thing to bear in mind is that the HGV driver may have had a blackbox recorder in the vehicle as well as the dashcam if stipulated by the insurers so if he takes evasive action to let the caravan force it's way in he will be reprimanded by work and put his livelihood on the line as the blackbox will register the sudden deceleration.

Yet failing to avoid a completely avoidable collision resulting in a longer delay to the journey, a truck off the road & cost of repairs, will presumably result in a bonus payment at the end of the month?

[surveyor]

jagracer said:

Mave said:

You honestly think someone will be "reprimanded and had his livelihood put on the line" if his employer finds evidence that he braked hard to avoid a collision?

Yup, I've seen it happen in our company although we don't yet have the video evidence to bail us out.

How is that video evidence going to bail the driver out? It show's him closing a gap, driving fairly aggressively and ultimately stuffing his truck into a car, closing a motorway, creating paperwork, and delaying the delivery.

Caravan should not have been there, but that lorry driver had every opportunity to avoid the whole collision.

[poo at Paul's]

I reckon his livelihood may well be on the line now.....

[FraMac]

When idiots meet on the roads, literally. A bit less willy waving /chest beating from either of them (better still, both of them) and it would have been a non-incident.

Life is too short.

[Matt UK]

What a couple of helmets...

[nickofh]

Caravan Driver - Idiot

Lorry Driver - Idiot

This could have so easily been avoided. Its 50/50 for me as the lorry driver could have easily avoided that collision , but he chose to keep going.

[Vipers]

Also noted white van man zipping down the next lane and pulling over at the last minute.

My take, caravan man dick head, lorry driver could have avoided it and bit his lip, oh well.

Edited by Vipers on Monday 20th April 20:26

[Vipers]

RogerVulva said:

I don't think the truck driver was at fault at all. Certainly a lack of courtesy but I'd probably be the same to be honest.

If you had been in the truckers position in your own vehicle, what would you have done?

[Vipers]

Having watched it a few times now, looks even after the initial point of contact, the caravan man tried again to overtake pulling in just short of the end of the lane.

[anonymous-user]

Vipers said:

RogerVulva said:

I don't think the truck driver was at fault at all. Certainly a lack of courtesy but I'd probably be the same to be honest.

If you had been in the truckers position in your own vehicle, what would you have done?

Exactly.

Would you have carried on/accelerated and rammed him with your car?

No, of course you wouldn't. You would have done what any sane person would do and realise you were dealing with a crackpot and get on the brakes and let him in before he collided with you.

[Snozzwangler]

Come on Roger....

[vikingaero]

Two people who deserve each other...

[Marvib]

Not sure if anyone replied to the couple of posts asking about the date of the incident. It was yesterday's man city match on the radio so the camera date is incorrect.

[ChocolateFrog]

Obviously more blame lies with the CRV driver but the HGV driver deserves to get home late, have the heartache of dealing with a claim and the increased motoring costs that go along with it.

He was 100% in a position to avoid the accident, you could see the situation developing a mile off. His bloody mindedness resulted in the accident.

OAP + Honda + Caravan. Can't say he wasn't warned.

[ATG]

Calza said:

Why did that woman decide to go for a jog down the slip road?!

Saw Captain Pringle's jumper and panicked. Who wouldn't?

[Vipers]

Couldn't quite figure how it was 12 seconds between what looks like the initial impact to the car arriving in front of the HGV, looks to me he just kept on accelerating and pulling over to the point he pulled over to miss the junction.

Wonder how long the traffic was held up for that.

[Sargeant Orange]

Yep the lorry driver woke up this morning facing at the very least increased premiums for the next 5 years & an awkward chat with his employer. Probably thinking why the hell did I do that.

Or maybe I'm giving the knuckle dragger too much credit, he does seem to be bragging about it almost on facebook

[speedking31]

Another take, would you rather collide with a car towing a caravan or a couple of cones?

[eldar]

Vipers said:

RogerVulva said:

I don't think the truck driver was at fault at all. Certainly a lack of courtesy but I'd probably be the same to be honest.

If you had been in the truckers position in your own vehicle, what would you have done?

If you'd been driving the caravan dragger, what would you have done?

[greygoose]

Can't really see how this is 50/50, car driver is aiming for a gap that doesn't exist for a car let alone a car and caravan, lorry driver doesn't give way but perhaps there was another HGV right behind him? Car driver deserves at least 75% blame and a retest before he tows again.