Sensible options for car

[Welshbeef]

matty0194 said:

Welshbeef said:

Ok can you confirm your fitting new Michelin Pilot sport and brand new shocks and springs as these will be worn and increase your stopping distance.

Also what's the difference in stopping distance like for like? OEM v this "Kit". ?

Brembo claim/quote 40% overall in stopping distance which will be alot safer for a first time driver like me and im gonna go veiw a few Passats/Jettas/Golfs before i make my mind up tbh

Sorry? lets just say for arguement sake that stopping distance on OEM from xmhp is 100feet changing them to Brembo you'd stop 40 feet shorter......


This is simply not true at best it might be a couple of feet. You've been sold the idea which is tosh.

[Crafty_]

you're pissing money away if you think upgrading the brakes is in any way required. There is no need at all.

[matty0194]

Welshbeef said:

This is simply not true at best it might be a couple of feet. You've been sold the idea which is tosh.

stock brakes use a single piston in the caliper opposed to three with the Brembo caliper and numerous test prove this reduction plus grooves in the disc repel heat so less chance to lock up which is what a first time driver (Me for example) doesnt want

[Welshbeef]

Crafty_ said:

you're pissing money away if you think upgrading the brakes is in any way required. There is no need at all.

And 40% reduction in stopping distance too all for £800.... Why bother with £16k ceramic brakes on the Porsche when £800 is all you need.


OP you should change the springs and shocks and tyres before you think about a full brake system change they will have the biggest safety improvement simply fitting new OEM discs and pads over the worm out items will transform the braking performance & changig the brake fluid annually too.

[Ali_T]

matty0194 said:

Most of the car gonna stay stock hate messing with things and the Germans build cars to a very high standard, i dont wanna mess with something the Germans have perfected which is why a VW gonna be my first car and my last

Man, you are hilarious. Stick around, this is comedy gold.

[matty0194]

Welshbeef said:

And 40% reduction in stopping distance too all for £800.... Why bother with £16k ceramic brakes on the Porsche when £800 is all you need.


OP you should change the springs and shocks and tyres before you think about a full brake system change they will have the biggest safety improvement simply fitting new OEM discs and pads over the worm out items will transform the braking performance & changig the brake fluid annually too.

Thanks for the input im just a first time driver looking for a Passat/Jetta or a Golf and wanna make sure im safer when out on the road

[matty0194]

Ali_T said:

Man, you are hilarious. Stick around, this is comedy gold.

Your mocking that Germans make bad cars! They are good engineers when it comes to cars they know alot more than me and you

[castex]

And yet you want Italian brakes?

[matty0194]

castex said:

And yet you want Italian brakes?

The Italians have strong connections with the Germans when it comes to engineering

[Welshbeef]

matty0194 said:

Welshbeef said:

This is simply not true at best it might be a couple of feet. You've been sold the idea which is tosh.

stock brakes use a single piston in the caliper opposed to three with the Brembo caliper and numerous test prove this reduction plus grooves in the disc repel heat so less chance to lock up which is what a first time driver (Me for example) doesnt want

If you honestly think Brembo brakes can reduce stopping distance from 100foot to 60foot your deluded

[feef]

matty0194 said:

Welshbeef said:

And 40% reduction in stopping distance too all for £800.... Why bother with £16k ceramic brakes on the Porsche when £800 is all you need.


OP you should change the springs and shocks and tyres before you think about a full brake system change they will have the biggest safety improvement simply fitting new OEM discs and pads over the worm out items will transform the braking performance & changig the brake fluid annually too.

Thanks for the input im just a first time driver looking for a Passat/Jetta or a Golf and wanna make sure im safer when out on the road

Driver training will gain you FAR more safety than upgraded brakes. Stick to the stock or OE kit, keep it in good nick, and spend the money on trackday tuition and car-control training.

[matty0194]

I wanted to know what i should get for my first car now im 17 and this is turned into an argument about Germany and how they work

[castex]

matty0194 said:

castex said:

And yet you want Italian brakes?

The Italians have strong connections with the Germans when it comes to engineering

This does not mean anything.

[Willy Nilly]

matty0194 said:

Ali_T said:

Man, you are hilarious. Stick around, this is comedy gold.

Your mocking that Germans make bad cars! They are good engineers when it comes to cars they know alot more than me and you

Parents have a 2 year old Skoda Fabia with the 1.6 TDi. It's just had a new water pump. You'd think VW would know how to build a water pump by now, particularly as the 1.6 petrol they had in their Last Felica had a water pump. And a thermostat. And a Head gasket.

If you want a reliable car, buy a Japanese one. It'll blow you mind.

[brman]

matty0194 said:

I wanted to know what i should get for my first car now im 17 and this is turned into an argument about Germany and how they work

forget german vs anyone else.They are all pretty good nowadays. even the italians

Personally I'd go for a focus. Cheap, reliable, great fun to drive. Cheaper insurance too probably.

[northwest monkey]

matty0194 said:

Welshbeef said:

This is simply not true at best it might be a couple of feet. You've been sold the idea which is tosh.

stock brakes use a single piston in the caliper opposed to three with the Brembo caliper and numerous test prove this reduction plus grooves in the disc repel heat so less chance to lock up which is what a first time driver (Me for example) doesnt want

If you seem to know so much, why so many questions?

eta - the insurance company will see the brakes as a performance mod, not a safety mod & will adjust the premiums accordingly.

[matty0194]

castex said:

This does not mean anything.

Basically in a nut shell i wanted ypu guys to suggest what i should go for out of Passat/Jetta/Golf 06/07 Model and i was gonna add to brakes to improve safety thats all. And what i meant is that there made to the highest standards imaginable

[northwest monkey]

matty0194 said:

And what i meant is that there made to the highest standards imaginable

They're made to the lowest cost imaginable - certainly not the highest standards.

[Welshbeef]

northwest monkey said:

If you seem to know so much, why so many questions?

eta - the insurance company will see the brakes as a performance mod, not a safety mod & will adjust the premiums accordingly.

And he cannot justify /afford the premium on an A3 audi yet will spunk ££ on an entire brake system upgrade.

[iva cosworth]

No.

Whatever you buy just make sure the OEM brakes are up to scratch.