Sensible options for car

[matty0194]

Welshbeef said:

Why is a Golf style boot not suitable for work?
Any comment re the insurance quotes?

Lastly you've elected the rarest option of the three and the 1.4ltr is a very rare model as it doesn't have the power to pull skin off custard.

£2'200 with Churchill no black box which is good i think at 17 and the 1.4 FSI is the 122BHP model just to add cant be that bad

[Matt UK]

Quite subtle and some pretty good bait. My best is a regular with a new log in.

But the OP is a troll.

[HustleRussell]

I called troll on this guy, it might have been in this thread or in one of the four others he has started in the first half of this week...

...However I've just remembered what I used to be like when I was a kid, getting fixated on the most boring metal imaginable.

I can remember being absolutely certain that the thing I wanted most of all for my first car, insurance etc considered, was a Yellow Mk1 Renault Megane

A little while later the car I coveted was a Skoda Felicia, purely because I could insure it and it was a 1.3 litre whereas the competing machinery was all 1.1 or 1.2

[Welshbeef]

matty0194 said:

Welshbeef said:

Why is a Golf style boot not suitable for work?
Any comment re the insurance quotes?

Lastly you've elected the rarest option of the three and the 1.4ltr is a very rare model as it doesn't have the power to pull skin off custard.

£2'200 with Churchill no black box which is good i think at 17 and the 1.4 FSI is the 122BHP model just to add cant be that bad

So is it £2.2k with or without the brakes modification?

Also how is a saloon more practical than a Hatchback?

[V8forweekends]

matty0194 said:

German reliabilty

I have owned quite a bit of VAG stuff inc Polo, and VR6 Passat - they aren't especially. HTH

[Welshbeef]

V8forweekends said:

matty0194 said:

German reliabilty

I have owned quite a bit of VAG stuff inc Polo, and VR6 Passat - they aren't especially. HTH

Coil packs useless.
Door seals rubbish
Rear washer pipe shocking
Rubber on the dash poor as it wears with age then peels and solution is new dash...
They eat CV gaiters
Heavy on bearings

[matty0194]

Welshbeef said:

So is it £2.2k with or without the brakes modification?

Also how is a saloon more practical than a Hatchback?

£2'200 with Churchill NO black box without any modifications at 17 with full UK licence + pass plus that's pretty good for a car with 122BHP and of that size so going with that

[HustleRussell]

You'd have thought that Brembo brakes would decrease your premiums considering they shorten your braking distances by 40%

[Jim AK]

HustleRussell said:

You'd have thought that Brembo brakes would decrease your premiums considering they shorten your braking distances by 40%

It would mitigate conversion costs too!!

[Welshbeef]

HustleRussell said:

You'd have thought that Brembo brakes would decrease your premiums considering they shorten your braking distances by 40%

Since the 40% reduction in stopping distance was brought up by OP I've been trawling through 911 GT3 RS forums

The feedback is as follows / this is from owners who actually have £16k ceramic discs v OEM steel.
When it comes to actual braking performance the one parameter that counts there is no objective data of a shorter stopping distance, subjective is "better initial bite".
They have advantages of less weight less dust great looks vastly less fade - only relevant on Track driving as you'd have crashed or been locked up driving on the road in that way way more durable.


So given ceramic brakes make zero reduction in stopping distance Yet Brembo steels reduce stopping distance by 40% I'm confused.

The Golf TDI stops from 60mph in 132foot. So fitting the wonder Brembos to this saving 40% on stopping distance would reduce it to 79.2 feet.

Super cars stopping distance at 60mph
2010 911 GT3 94 feet
2012 Lexus LFA 94 feet
2009 corvette ZR1 97 feet
McLaren P1 99 feet


I'd suggest OP recommends his wonder brake modification to the car manufacturing world

[Marc p]

matty0194 said:

German reliabilty is key for my first car plus either of the three have that luxury feel when you get inside

Hahahahahahahahaha

Trust me, if you want reliability, look for Japanese cars, if you want a luxury feel, go Italian or British.

Most German cars are white goods, don't get me wrong, I have an BMW E92 as a daily, it's not a bad car, but it does require more maintenance than any Japanese car I've ever had and I never feel that it's a luxury car, it looks nice and it eats up the miles in relative comfort, nothing more, nothing less.

[WinstonWolf]

Marc p said:

matty0194 said:

German reliabilty is key for my first car plus either of the three have that luxury feel when you get inside

Hahahahahahahahaha

Trust me, if you want reliability, look for Japanese cars, if you want a luxury feel, go Italian or British.

Most German cars are white goods, don't get me wrong, I have an BMW E92 as a daily, it's not a bad car, but it does require more maintenance than any Japanese car I've ever had and I never feel that it's a luxury car, it looks nice and it eats up the miles in relative comfort, nothing more, nothing less.

The E92 is fairly bottom of the range to be fair... Try an A8 if you want to feel German quality, or even an E39. Those things were hewn from solid granite

[TheJimi]

matty0194 said:

...And what i meant is that there made to the highest standards imaginable

No, that's Audi.

Made of the imagine

[TotalControl]

OP, take on board the decent advice being given here. They're all trying to help.

Also, make a note of the spelling, grammar and punctuation. Reading your responses requires a little effort and I can't help thing why you type 'wanna' when 'want to' is easy enough to type.

Also, my recommendation would be to purchase something boring and Japanese for a year for reliability and to gain NCB. What will your line of work be that requires a boot like the Jetta but not the Golf?

[Marc p]

WinstonWolf said:

Marc p said:

matty0194 said:

German reliabilty is key for my first car plus either of the three have that luxury feel when you get inside

Hahahahahahahahaha

Trust me, if you want reliability, look for Japanese cars, if you want a luxury feel, go Italian or British.

Most German cars are white goods, don't get me wrong, I have an BMW E92 as a daily, it's not a bad car, but it does require more maintenance than any Japanese car I've ever had and I never feel that it's a luxury car, it looks nice and it eats up the miles in relative comfort, nothing more, nothing less.

The E92 is fairly bottom of the range to be fair... Try an A8 if you want to feel German quality, or even an E39. Those things were hewn from solid granite

I've had an E39 530D and an E60 525D, the E39 was the most comfy, the E60 was the most 'tricked out', neither gave any 'luxury' feel at all though, well built and firm? yes, but luxury? not in the slightest, just A-B cars. However, looking back, I think the most comfy and solid car I have ever experianced is the first gen Volvo V70, my god that thing was fantastic, the 850 was aswell.

[WinstonWolf]

Marc p said:

WinstonWolf said:

Marc p said:

matty0194 said:

German reliabilty is key for my first car plus either of the three have that luxury feel when you get inside

Hahahahahahahahaha

Trust me, if you want reliability, look for Japanese cars, if you want a luxury feel, go Italian or British.

Most German cars are white goods, don't get me wrong, I have an BMW E92 as a daily, it's not a bad car, but it does require more maintenance than any Japanese car I've ever had and I never feel that it's a luxury car, it looks nice and it eats up the miles in relative comfort, nothing more, nothing less.

The E92 is fairly bottom of the range to be fair... Try an A8 if you want to feel German quality, or even an E39. Those things were hewn from solid granite

I've had an E39 530D and an E60 525D, the E39 was the most comfy, the E60 was the most 'tricked out', neither gave any 'luxury' feel at all though, well built and firm? yes, but luxury? not in the slightest, just A-B cars. However, looking back, I think the most comfy and solid car I have ever experianced is the first gen Volvo V70, my god that thing was fantastic, the 850 was aswell.

850s are great. Solid, comfy and boxy, but great...

[nipsips]

Ive had many cars over the years, VW included. I can quite honestly say unless I needed a car right there and then I wouldnt go out of my way to own another.

Unreliable isnt the word for them.

[crofty1984]

matty0194 said:

castex said:

Does it have to be a Volkswagen? I'd be looking at sporty French hatches.

German reliabilty is key for my first car plus either of the three have that luxury feel when you get inside and i kinda want a VR6 as my second car

Not being funny, but the "German reliability" was back in the 80's and early 90's, when they were built really, really well. When I was looking to buy a Mk3 Golf all the ones I was looking at were heaps of rust. More than once I was told that "well, it's an old car, mate" despit turning up in a MK2 golf 10 years older with a rock solid body! They've been trading on that ever since.

If reliability's your main goal, I'd be looking at something Japanese. Maybe a Civic or similar?
At the money/age you're talking about, maybe something Korean? A Kia with a couple of years left of it's 7 year warranty?

If you want a VAG group car (VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda, Bugatti, etc) by all means buy one and enjoy it, but if the only reason you're getting one is because someone told you "German cars - really reliable and everything else is terrible" then you might want to reconsider.

[matty0194]

crofty1984 said:

If you want a VAG group car (VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda, Bugatti, etc) by all means buy one and enjoy it, but if the only reason you're getting one is because someone told you "German cars - really reliable and everything else is terrible" then you might want to reconsider.

Going for either a 1.4 or a 1.6 Jetta now as i like the VW brand

[matty0194]

TotalControl said:

What will your line of work be that requires a boot like the Jetta but not the Golf?

Service technician is my line of work even though im 17 im happy and just feel the way the boot is it will be more practicle plus extra leg room in back over the Golf which will be better for long trips with family just gotta decide on the Manual or Auto and source a good used one either 1.4 or 1.6 definatley be a Jetta though