RE: Renault Clio Williams: PH Heroes

RE: Renault Clio Williams: PH Heroes

Friday 24th April 2015

Renault Clio Williams: PH Heroes

How to celebrate a hot hatch classic? Driving the first one built seems a good start; handing it back intact would be great...



The #0001 on the plate attached to the dash rather stands out. Not just as a flash of gold amid a sea of grey plastic. But rather as reminder that this is a very precious car and about as close as you'll get to a time machine capable of taking you back to the Clio Williams' 1993 debut.

Must be up there as one of the prettiest hatches ever
Must be up there as one of the prettiest hatches ever
What a pretty little thing this is too. Sure, that hump and NACA duct on the bonnet are pretty unapologetic, the cooler for being offset and the one real visual clue of its potency compared with regular Clios. This is one classy looking machine though, the bling of the gold Speedlines offset by their diminutive size and extra 34mm of track over regular 16Vs contained within subtly engorged front wings. Like a 911, this is a car whose design informs you immediately about where the power is coming from and what it'll be like to drive - that muscular front end dominates, the rear balanced but more delicate and uncluttered by faux aero, fat exhausts and other addenda. The gorgeous Sport Blue paint is restrained, the smattering of Williams logos carried off tastefully and from any angle the proportions are just-so.

All of which makes the character of the thing once underway even more shocking. It may have looked more grown-up than its contemporaries but the Clio Williams is just as raw, potent and thrilling as any 90s hot hatch. Or it would be, were one not considering the realities of spanking a mechanically perfect, aesthetically untainted and irreplaceable, first off the line car with impeccable history.

Limited edition status rather stretched...
Limited edition status rather stretched...
Family three
If you've read our earlier story comparing the Williams against its successors you'll also know the tyres on this car are similarly artefacts from an earlier age. Michelin apparently developed a tyre specifically for the Williams but for some reason this one was fitted with Pirelli P4000s, now nicely age-hardened and even less grippy than they would have been back in 1993. Not a problem in its early life in the Williams collection. Rather more of a concern for a man about to drive it around Brands Hatch. All of which is laying down the excuses nice and early to explain an embarrassing spin very early on at a Renaultsport track day. What was that about being careful?

Suitably chastened I set about rebuilding my trust in the Williams, albeit at a more restrained pace.

There's lots to enjoy too. Enlarged from the 1.8 litres of the standard 'valver', the Williams' F7R motor was increased to a 2.0 and had its own crank, con-rods, pistons and cams. Along with that wider track the Williams got the Cup racer's front subframe plus revised and uprated springs, dampers and anti-roll bars.

Conceived as a Group N rally homologation special, the Williams branding and associations with the F1 partnership with Renault were exploited to the full ... and then a bit more ... and then a bit more again. Famously (or perhaps infamously) the original production run of 3,500 eventually extended to 5,417 cars. A further 5,065 Williams 2s were then built, followed by 1,618 3s, distinguished by their Monaco Blue paint, ABS and standard-fit sunroof. 1,180 were sold in the UK across all three models, the first batch seemingly the most coveted for their provenance but all offering an equally scintillating driving experience. Take your pick - purists can coo over the Williams 1s but if you want one to enjoy and drive there's no shame in picking one of the later examples. And if rarity matters the third batch are actually the least numerous of all!

Hey, look - a hot hatch without a silly exhaust
Hey, look - a hot hatch without a silly exhaust
On the edge
In the context of enjoying all this to the maximum the provenance of this car is actually more of a curse than a blessing. Now painfully aware that the tyres make it handle more like one of those trolley-mounted skid training cars than a true hot hatch hero it's a case of nibbling at the edges of what it can do. Rather than going all-in and enjoying the knife-edge balance that's clearly lurking within.

In a modern context it feels tiny too, the low waistline seemingly putting the dash and window sill at waist height. If there's a timeless quality about the exterior the cabin is rather more 90s French, grey plastic getting the odd flash of blue and a Williams logo here and there to liven things up. The soft velour seats have generous bolsters to hold you in place and there's a businesslike feel to all the controls. The gear lever has a long throw and isn't to be rushed but that's not so much of a problem because of the engine's reach - 150hp in a car weighing less than a tonne is a good start and although 129lb ft doesn't sound that much it's more than enough to keep things exciting. The latter's peak is a lofty sounding 4,500rpm but the fact 85 per cent of that is available from 2,500rpm gives you an on-paper sense of how broad the delivery is.

The engine sounds fab too, buzzy and guttural low-down and building to a really aggressive growl as the revs build. The aural feedback matches that streaming through the wheel and the seat of your pants too, meaning there's never a dull moment, even on the straights. By modern standards it's not that quick but from the driver's seat it always feels potent and spoiling for a fight. And then come the corners.

3K km, first registered in '06, LHD; careful now...
3K km, first registered in '06, LHD; careful now...
Backing it in
Maybe it's those tyres again but with a bit of speed the steering gets a lot lighter and trust in the front end is hard to find. Once it does turn in the transition to the trademark three-wheeled cornering stance - signalled by an initially disconcerting floatiness at the rear - is rapid and from there the balance gets rather more, er, exciting. Considering in this state the main thing keeping you pointing forwards is a single, 185-section tyre straining on its 22-year-old sidewalls the word 'adjustable' very quickly takes on a new meaning.

Front axle pushing on? Not a problem; a whiff of trailed brake snaps the front back into the apex as that rear tyre howls. Get a bit greedy? Best get ready with the corrective lock and throttle to pull you straight again - and look sharp about it.

Experience of a later 172 Cup tells me this is can be quite scary. But also hugely enjoyable, once you learn how to exploit it. It'll certainly come as a shock if you've never driven an old-school hot hatch and if you've just bought that dream Williams it's probably a good idea to learn its habits somewhere with plenty of run-off. Once that confidence comes though these things are proper weapons, dancing from tyre to tyre as you play with the weight distribution through throttle and brake.

Yeah, Renaultsport is quite good at this
Yeah, Renaultsport is quite good at this
On tyres you could put more faith in and a twisting B-road I have no doubt the combination would be utterly delightful, the Williams in truth probably better suited to this environment than the track. Snobs who think front-wheel drive cars can't entertain like a rear-driven one need to experience this effervescence, this feistiness and this playful sense of agility to be proven wrong. Those who already understand the thrill will appreciate how the Williams remains one of the true greats of the genre.

A PH Hero then? Deservedly so.



RENAULT CLIO WILLIAMS 1
Engine:
1,998cc 4-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 150@6,100rpm
Torque (lb ft): 129@4,500rpm
0-62mph: 7.7sec
Top speed: 134mph
Weight: 990kg
On sale: 1993-1995
Price new: £13,275
Price now: c. £5,000 upwards - very upwards in the case of this car

[Pics: Ben Lowden/Chris Teagles]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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550M

Original Poster:

1,104 posts

215 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Iconic.

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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I had a Valver and loved it. It was also 449 Sports blue.
Needless to say, I lusted for 200cc and wider track more than I did hot women.

I annoys the hell out of me that when journo's fawn over classic hot hatches they seem to mention the 205 GTi over this - the Williams was WAAAAY better in every aspect.
It looked better, went faster, handled better, was more technically advanced, had more luxuries etc etc.

I've had a 330bhp MR2 Turbo and a BMW 330 since the Valver and neither would get close on a public non motorway road to it, a Williams would be even further ahead.


GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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550M said:
Iconic.
+1 Looks the absolute business from every angle. Not many cars you can say that about these days.

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

148 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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I had a Megane Cab with this engine (well nearly still an F7R) and I wouldn't say it sounded that nice. Ok at best. After a few breathing mods through the dartford tunnel was good though.

Even in the heavier cab (1140kg) it went pretty well and spun up quite nicely. Ended up with a crazy revving problem where it would hunt over a range of about 3,000 rpm, redline itself or just cut out. 3 supposedly French specialists couldn't fix it so got rid.


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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PHMatt said:
I annoys the hell out of me that when journo's fawn over classic hot hatches they seem to mention the 205 GTi over this - the Williams was WAAAAY better in every aspect.
It looked better, went faster, handled better, was more technically advanced, had more luxuries etc etc.
Sorry, have to disagree with you here. Having owned a 205 Gti, and driven a friends Williams on many occasions I have to say that for UK roads, the Peugeot felt better. Sure the Williams may be marginally faster on paper (or on a track) than the 205, but where it mattered, on a bumpy twisting B road the 205 felt to me the slightly more exploitable and more enjoyable car to drive. It was lighter than the Williams too (by about the weight of a large man), the possible downside to those luxuries you speak of. The Williams (whilst a great car) looks quite dated now, whereas the 205 still feels fresh to look at and has aged far better. That's just my opinion though.

marcgti6

1,340 posts

213 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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They just look so right, even now.

I used to lust after them back in the day when I had a 1.4 RT.

Basil Hume

1,267 posts

252 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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I had No.123 of the original lot - a lovely car. I searched for one for ages, before finding this one just by chance.

It was already 10 years old at that stage, but in great nick. I even replaced its aftermarket exhaust with a standard one and put the original tape deck and speakers back in!




I had a 16V before that. A rapid little car, with sunroof, leather and a re-built engine:



Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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A superb little car - I really want one of these but justifying in the days of mortgage repayments and new kitchens is sadly not easy frown

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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I had a Valver and loved it. It was also 449 Sports blue.
Needless to say, I lusted for 200cc and wider track more than I did hot women.

I annoys the hell out of me that when journo's fawn over classic hot hatches they seem to mention the 205 GTi over this - the Williams was WAAAAY better in every aspect.
It looked better, went faster, handled better, was more technically advanced, had more luxuries etc etc.

I've had a 330bhp MR2 Turbo and a BMW 330 since the Valver and neither would get close on a public non motorway road to it, a Williams would be even further ahead.


TAM747

270 posts

249 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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this was mine, fully prepared, 200ps, 2seater because complete rollovercage, 16" speedline







together with this, also fully prepared:








Edited by TAM747 on Friday 24th April 14:41

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Andy20vt said:
PHMatt said:
I annoys the hell out of me that when journo's fawn over classic hot hatches they seem to mention the 205 GTi over this - the Williams was WAAAAY better in every aspect.
It looked better, went faster, handled better, was more technically advanced, had more luxuries etc etc.
Sorry, have to disagree with you here. Having owned a 205 Gti, and driven a friends Williams on many occasions I have to say that for UK roads, the Peugeot felt better. Sure the Williams may be marginally faster on paper (or on a track) than the 205, but where it mattered, on a bumpy twisting B road the 205 felt to me the slightly more exploitable and more enjoyable car to drive. It was lighter than the Williams too (by about the weight of a large man), the possible downside to those luxuries you speak of. The Williams (whilst a great car) looks quite dated now, whereas the 205 still feels fresh to look at and has aged far better. That's just my opinion though.
I guess we all have an opinion. I've not driven a 205 in anger, just in a passenger seat, but I felt like I was in the stone age compared to the Clio. The engine felt nasty and tinny and torqueless. The interior was old when it was new.
The looks are 100% objective to be fair, I still think the Williams looks remarkable even today. The Clio's never looked so neat and tidy and subtly muscular since. It's morphed in to a psychedelic mess.



dom9

8,078 posts

209 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Absolutely brilliant cars and love mine to pieces!

After a 'difficult time' (well documented on PH) with a Williams 3, I recently picked up a beautiful, 43,000 mile Williams 2.

I enjoy every minute in that car biggrin

Sadly, it is probably going to have to go up for sale again as a Clio V6 (with very low miles on the clock) is now on the drive and we only have space for two cars.

Since we have 4 cars and the dog isn't allowed in either the Williams or the V6... I can hear the bell tolling frown

They just won't make cars like this again. If you can get a rust free, well-maintained car then they make a cracking B-road toy.

If we move house (on the cards) to somewhere with more 'space' hopefully it will stay as prices are only going one way, so you can have a lot of fun for little/ no outlay!

Mike1990

964 posts

131 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Look's simply amazing in them pictures. It really does. I think the William's and 205 GTi have aged rather well.

Janosh

1,735 posts

167 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Still probably the most fun car I've owned and had a great owners club of (b road) driving enthusiasts... We did very little of the 'meet in a carpark' malarkey and plenty of 'wasting' petrol in North Wales palava driving

Gratuitous picture from my first ever trackday:



It's long since been claimed by the tin worm, but not forgotten.

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

148 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Mate used to have a turbo, charge cooled Williams and i'm sure he said it was around the 280bhp mark but I could be wrong. 10-15 years have gone by since then.

I know BB used to use his car on car show stands etc as a demo


ant leigh

714 posts

143 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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TAM747 said:
this was mine, fully prepared, 200ps, 2seater because complete rollovercage, 16" speedline







together with this, also fully prepared:








Edited by TAM747 on Friday 24th April 14:41
Love the spider thumbup

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Proof that great hot hatches weren't just the preserve of the '80s! biggrin

DuncMac

6 posts

168 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Love mine!



Dunc

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Andy20vt said:
PHMatt said:
I guess we all have an opinion. I've not driven a 205 in anger, just in a passenger seat, but I felt like I was in the stone age compared to the Clio. The engine felt nasty and tinny and torqueless. The interior was old when it was new.
The looks are 100% objective to be fair, I still think the Williams looks remarkable even today. The Clio's never looked so neat and tidy and subtly muscular since. It's morphed in to a psychedelic mess.
Errr you are aware that the 205 Gti was around almost 10 years before the Clio Williams? Don't get why you're slating the 205 to be honest, most of the reviews produced over the last 30 years would disagree with you on that one I'd say. I love the Clio Williams as well by the way, and have recently owned a RS Clio 200 so like to think I'm not really that biased on these things.
Not slating it altogether - just in comparison to the Williams.....

Tubbys2k

3 posts

117 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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My misses had a 205 1.9gti and it was an awesome little car.but after driving that and then driving a Clio 1.8 16v,I thought the valver was way better in every department,never driven a Williams but they are obviously better than the 1.8 16v.