Best mini-barge?

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bga

8,134 posts

252 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Mike22233 said:
Really? No issues in two years. Have you owned one?
E39 5 series take a fair bit of looking after as they get older, yours is a lucky anomaly if it hasn't. Required some tlc.

Mike22233

822 posts

112 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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bga said:
E39 5 series take a fair bit of looking after as they get older, yours is a lucky anomaly if it hasn't. Required some tlc.
I didn't say I haven't owned it 6 years hehe (only 2), it's a 52 plate.

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Lexus GS

ZX10R NIN

27,639 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
Here's my pick:

Aristo Vertex 3.0 Twin Turbo same size as a 5 series & as quick with reliability to BMW weep
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-ARISTO-LEXUS-GS30...

Or if it has to be a 5 series, get an Alpina:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
Or if you don't fancy the Twin Turbo Version how about the N/a Straight 6 Or N/A V8:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

S10GTA

12,686 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Citroen C6 should be in budget.

defblade

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7,438 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Looks like I'm actually going to buy a 130k miler 530 for the princely sum of £1350... I fancied the black 540 on carsandclassics, but I've decided that the 2.5 grand price difference will leave a fair bit for running repairs. Anyhow, I could pretty much afford to throw away (break/part-ex) a car at just over a grand; it'll tell me if I'm in the right place for size/speed/refinement/practicality and then I can decide where I'm going for my next long-term car. Of course, if the 530 behaves, it might be that long-term car!

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

212 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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skyrover said:
Lexus GS
This. It will last years. Reasonable servicing costs from dealers (should you go down that path) who make all other main stream dealers seem like utter shysters.

Matt UK

17,726 posts

201 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Mike22233 said:
chris333 said:
Have a look at a last generation Lexus IS250..make sure its an auto with the multimedia (ignore the diesels).

Silky smooth V6 engine, loads of toys, 0-60 in 7-ish secs, will never go wrong. 24-27mpg round town, better than 35mpg entirely possible on a run.
How is that better than a 540 with a v8? Slower as well
The OP asked for suggestions. You gave your opinion, chris333 gave a different one.

Being a forum, that is OK and adds options for the OP to consider, I don't think there is a 'correct' answer hehe

Matt UK

17,726 posts

201 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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0a said:
Mercedes 190 2.6 auto smile
Being in a similar position to the OP, this where I find I am doing the most research.
Running a 'proper era' Merc for a year or two is on my list of things to do.

confused_buyer

6,624 posts

182 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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defblade said:
Looks like I'm actually going to buy a 130k miler 530 for the princely sum of £1350... I fancied the black 540 on carsandclassics, but I've decided that the 2.5 grand price difference will leave a fair bit for running repairs. Anyhow, I could pretty much afford to throw away (break/part-ex) a car at just over a grand; it'll tell me if I'm in the right place for size/speed/refinement/practicality and then I can decide where I'm going for my next long-term car. Of course, if the 530 behaves, it might be that long-term car!
530 E39 is a very fine car but even at that price check it carefully as there are a number of not that uncommon faults which will write it off. In particular, if it is an Auto check it goes backwards up a hill.

Check the front pusher fan works with the aircon on if you want to be cool in traffic jams, it hasn't over heated in the past leading to an iffy headgasket, the VANOS works below 3000rpm once it is warm, it starts when warm, and check carefully for coolant leaks.

Also check for wobble when braking from about 60mph as it can be very annoying and a sod to solve.

They're great cars, but they're all old and no where near as well built and reliable as some fans would have you believe so go in with eyes open.

Mike22233

822 posts

112 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Matt UK said:
The OP asked for suggestions. You gave your opinion, chris333 gave a different one.

Being a forum, that is OK and adds options for the OP to consider, I don't think there is a 'correct' answer hehe
I didn't say it was a correct answer.
Hehe etc...

Mike22233

822 posts

112 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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defblade said:
Looks like I'm actually going to buy a 130k miler 530 for the princely sum of £1350... I fancied the black 540 on carsandclassics, but I've decided that the 2.5 grand price difference will leave a fair bit for running repairs. Anyhow, I could pretty much afford to throw away (break/part-ex) a car at just over a grand; it'll tell me if I'm in the right place for size/speed/refinement/practicality and then I can decide where I'm going for my next long-term car. Of course, if the 530 behaves, it might be that long-term car!
Great stuff. I got parts and labour warranty via RAC to take the sting off the bills that will be coming. Mine has FSH.

What were they wanting for the one on car and classics? Almost 4k???

defblade

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7,438 posts

214 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Mike22233 said:
What were they wanting for the one on car and classics? Almost 4k???
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C557843
£3750. Not entirely unreasonable; I'd want to throw some more at it in terms of water pump, hoses, fluids and bushes given the low use, but then you'd have a near-new car.

defblade

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7,438 posts

214 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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confused_buyer said:
530 E39 is a very fine car but even at that price check it carefully as there are a number of not that uncommon faults which will write it off. In particular, if it is an Auto check it goes backwards up a hill.

Check the front pusher fan works with the aircon on if you want to be cool in traffic jams, it hasn't over heated in the past leading to an iffy headgasket, the VANOS works below 3000rpm once it is warm, it starts when warm, and check carefully for coolant leaks.

Also check for wobble when braking from about 60mph as it can be very annoying and a sod to solve.

They're great cars, but they're all old and no where near as well built and reliable as some fans would have you believe so go in with eyes open.
Please don't spoil my fun!
I had a bunch of problems on my last E46, so that's part of the reason why I'm buying cheap this time. I'm as sure as I can be it's a honest car as it stands though. On the bright side, I can fix most stuff myself (maybe not the gearbox....).

If this turns out to be a complete dog/PITA, I might just throw the whole towel in and get an Accord Tourer. Or a Jazz. Or an LS430 - seems they hardly break either wink

Mike22233

822 posts

112 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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defblade said:
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C557843
£3750. Not entirely unreasonable; I'd want to throw some more at it in terms of water pump, hoses, fluids and bushes given the low use, but then you'd have a near-new car.
Probably not unreasonable. Just makes me even more pleased at price I paid for mine. Guy had a used car evaluation print off from a website at £3200, but it would seem they're going for a bit more. I've got a bit of a fund for the car should it need anything major. Just hoping it isn't too major that it ruins it....

DanielJames

7,543 posts

169 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I think of my E46 330i as a nice little barge.

Mike22233

822 posts

112 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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DanielJames said:
I think of my E46 330i as a nice little barge.
Yeah
3 series little barge
5 mini barge
7 series / audi A8- proper barge

BGarside

1,564 posts

138 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Maybe a little late, but how about a Merc W202 C-Class C280? Low-miles, 1 owner cars seem to pop up every now and again and they are comfy, refined and have more space in the back than a 190.

Splash some cash on proper rustproofing (the factory didn't bother) and they are very much the ideal mini-barge.

defblade

Original Poster:

7,438 posts

214 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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confused_buyer said:
530 E39 is a very fine car but even at that price check it carefully as there are a number of not that uncommon faults which will write it off. In particular, if it is an Auto check it goes backwards up a hill.

Check the front pusher fan works with the aircon on if you want to be cool in traffic jams, it hasn't over heated in the past leading to an iffy headgasket, the VANOS works below 3000rpm once it is warm, it starts when warm, and check carefully for coolant leaks.

Also check for wobble when braking from about 60mph as it can be very annoying and a sod to solve.

They're great cars, but they're all old and no where near as well built and reliable as some fans would have you believe so go in with eyes open.
Well, it goes into reverse OK.
The front pusher is looking suspect - it was twitching a bit so I'll see if it runs when the car first switched on - I'll check it out properly tomorrow; I changed the one on my E46 and this only looks a little bit more involved - taking off the bumper rather than the undertray.
No sign of mayo anywhere.
Runs fine at all revs at all temps.
No sign of coolant leaks.
I think it's got the usual PAS fluid leaks, so new o-ring and possibly hose clips if necessary.
Needs new wipers (judder).
Enough pixels out on the dash to be worth considering ribbon repair.
And I'm chucking in a new HU too - the OE one is almost unreadable/usable due to missing pixels. I would have done this anyway even if the OE was perfect!
Headlights adjust up and down but are set a bit low for my taste on 0.
Front tyres will need changing sooner rather than later.

Near 4 hour run home all the way down the M4 with it this evening. It was, quite simply, fine, quiet, comfortable and wafty. No problems with anything. For £1350, really can't complain about anything! I know it's technically above budget, but this is good shedding in my book. Should do me very nicely for the time being smile