Speeding With Kids In The Car.

Speeding With Kids In The Car.

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Countdown

39,824 posts

196 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Kawasicki said:
I must be a psycho, I do (and allow my kids to do) lots of dangerous things.

I'm crazy, me.
As in doing things where there's a high probability of you/them getting hurt?

or is it just Internet hardman talk?

J4CKO

41,499 posts

200 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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I drive differently with the kids in the car, they like a bit of speed, a bit of acceleration but I contrive it a bit and dot actually go all that fast, I have always imagine having to explain an accident after the fact and that curtails any stupidity.


stevesingo

4,854 posts

222 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Kawasicki said:
I must be a psycho, I do (and allow my kids to do) lots of dangerous things.
presumably things which the left wing hand wringers who we have allowed to have authority in this country think is dangerous, but what the rest of us think is learning experiences?

In which case..

Kawasicki said:
I'm crazy, me.
Me too

otolith

56,036 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Kawasicki, report to the risk aversion centre at once for re-education.

Rubin215

3,987 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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I did have a quiet word with another dad after my daughter told me he was doing 120 with her and his own daughter in the car.
He blustered that it must have been kmh she was looking at but it was fairly obvious I had put him on the spot.
I basically told him not to be a dick with my kids in the car again and asked how he would feel if it was the other way round.
He admitted he wouldn't be happy about it, but I genuinely believe he hadn't even thought about it until then.

threespires

4,289 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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I drove my 6 year old round Curborough last week and he didn't wear a seat belt or crash helmet.
Should I be locked up?

Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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My mate's dad had a old VW Bus.He took us sometimes to a beach near a small Dutch village Rockanje.

We where allowed to drive put our foot down and had a great time both fourteen.

We loved it.Good times in the sixties.

TurboFan

120 posts

125 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Its because there is less space, more cars and more gormless tts on the road to have any safe fun.


MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Countdown said:
MrBarry123 said:
I think the point is that driving quickly with kids in the car is completely different to driving dangerously with kids in the car.

Quickly = relatively normal
Dangerously =
People who drive dangerously generally think they're driving safely. Only a psychopath would do something KNOWING it was dangerous. And if you've convinced yourself that you're not driving like a twunt why would you slow down just because your kids are with you?
I agree however my comment is more about the public's perception of said driver's driving than the driver's perception of themselves.

Driving at 100mph on a quiet stretch of motorway in a capable car in good conditions is quick but not dangerous driving.
Weaving in and out of traffic on a busy motorway at 100mph in a clapped-out Honda Civic whilst it's raining, the visibility is generally poor and with no respect for safe braking distances [as witnessed today] is dangerous.

With children in the car, one would probably be deemed okay whilst one is absolutely not.

Blakewater

4,308 posts

157 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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MrBarry123 said:
Countdown said:
MrBarry123 said:
I think the point is that driving quickly with kids in the car is completely different to driving dangerously with kids in the car.

Quickly = relatively normal
Dangerously =
People who drive dangerously generally think they're driving safely. Only a psychopath would do something KNOWING it was dangerous. And if you've convinced yourself that you're not driving like a twunt why would you slow down just because your kids are with you?
I agree however my comment is more about the public's perception of said driver's driving than the driver's perception of themselves.

Driving at 100mph on a quiet stretch of motorway in a capable car in good conditions is quick but not dangerous driving.
Weaving in and out of traffic on a busy motorway at 100mph in a clapped-out Honda Civic whilst it's raining, the visibility is generally poor and with no respect for safe braking distances [as witnessed today] is dangerous.

With children in the car, one would probably be deemed okay whilst one is absolutely not.
I doubt children would have any idea of the speed of the car they were in if it was going in a straight line down a motorway and they couldn't see the speedometer, or any idea what the speed was in relation to the limit. If the press got hold of it for any reason, say it was some celebrity getting booked, they would use all sorts of emotive language about how the kids were pressed up against the windows screaming for their lives.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,910 posts

216 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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stevesingo said:
Kawasicki said:
things which the left wing hand wringers...
I'm politically left wing, but I can't recall ever wringing my hands about anything - plus I have had several speeding bans over the years, and I'm an ex racer and track day instructor. SO, you know, shut up biggrin



The Turbonator

2,792 posts

151 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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My Dad bought a Rover 600ti because I told him I wanted him to get it. He used to get to choose his company car and he'd always let me choose a car for a shortlist he had made.

He saw the 620ti for sale in a magazine so added it to the list and I chose it straight away because it was the fastest one on the list.

We both loved that car, seriously quick for the mid 90s but it looked like an everyday boring Rover. The look on people's faces when he annihilated them at the lights was priceless.

My own kids seem scared of speed though, everytime I put my foot down they start screaming for me to stop, even when I'm accelerating hard to gain speed on a short slip road or pulling out if a parking area on a duel carriageway. I blame the Mrs for that though as she also screams everytime I put my foot down.

Warnie

1,135 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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My kids love it. I stay well within the cars limitations but a straight line 'boot' that flings them back in their seat gets them giggling. Also being eratic even at slow speeds with the steering when cornering does the same. No harm done and like I said, well within the cars limits, but they don't know that do they?

Back in the old days it was far more dangerous, I have always been obsessed by cars, so even as a 5 yr old I used to sit in the middle with my head through the gap in the front seat's watching everything my dad did. No rear belts in though days though in his old mk 1 escorts, viva's and cortina's of the day.

I also remember travelling to the sea side on many occasions with my sister sat in the boot of said viva hatchback and cortina estate, so the grandparents could come. Bloody hell my mom and dad were arse holes....

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Tannedbaldhead said:
Read a couple of stories in the press recently where drivers were lambasted for speeding with "terrified" kids in the car.
Daily Mail, by any chance?

stevesingo said:
left wing hand wringers
ITYF most hands are on the end of arms, not wings, and on both sides of the body.

gtidriver

3,340 posts

187 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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I got shouted at by a parent at my sons school for taking him out of school for the day to go to the Nurburgring on the way home from the Frankfurt Motorshow a couple of years ago.He was 4 and he loved it. She said i was irresponsible and a bad parent,he's been back since and still loves it. We will be back there again in september.

PomBstard

6,771 posts

242 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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gtidriver said:
I got shouted at by a parent at my sons school for taking him out of school for the day to go to the Nurburgring on the way home from the Frankfurt Motorshow a couple of years ago.He was 4 and he loved it. She said i was irresponsible and a bad parent,he's been back since and still loves it. We will be back there again in september.
We drove past Mount Panorama a few weeks ago. Seemed rude not to do a lap, with the entire family and all our holiday chattels in the car. Strict speed limit means no hoonery, but at least MrsPB couldn't use the old, "Its not a racetrack," line... Was fun enough to do another lap on the way home too.

My daughters used to love watching the rev counter on the MX5 go past 7000, and still watch the Sube for the same. As others have said, its all about time and place.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Mound Dawg said:
Toltec said:
Come to think of it there are plenty of drivers kids should be terrified to be in a car with irrespective of speed.
Jimmy Savile for example
Given he's dead I wouldn't be happy to be in a car with him either biggrin

gtidriver

3,340 posts

187 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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My grandad had a FSO Polenez for a few years, i can remember 3 things about that car 1 it was green 2 the boot was a great place to sit and wave at the following motorists and 3 he sold it to a family that stunk of piss. My dad had a Talbot Rancho, i remember laying on the side window ledge as he drove us to school,nowadays my the car doesn't move till everyones belted up.Amazing how many people you see driving around with kids un belted.

Paul Dishman

4,697 posts

237 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Troubleatmill said:
Tannedbaldhead said:
Read a couple of stories in the press recently where drivers were lambasted for speeding with "terrified" kids in the car. Terrified my arse."
How do you know?

Having done a number of charity days taking underprivileged kids/ kids with cancer etc, around a race track or airfield circuit - the brief was always to tell the child that if they want you to slow down - they just shout "Slower"

Vast majority of kids wanted to go as fast as possible.
A few others were more nervous - and wanted to stay at a pace they were more comfortable with.

And this was with each car being released 30 seconds apart - so nothing to hit.

So, I can see some kids not being totally happy with a ton up on a crowded motorway.

You just don't know.
Friend of mine was doing one of these days and had quite a severely handicapped little boy strapped in his racer. All he got was "faster, mister, faster" until the point when my mate had to turn to him and say that it wouldn't go any effing faster laugh

DonkeyApple

55,180 posts

169 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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J4CKO said:
I drive differently with the kids in the car, they like a bit of speed, a bit of acceleration but I contrive it a bit and dot actually go all that fast, I have always imagine having to explain an accident after the fact and that curtails any stupidity.
Exactly. My kids absolutely love acceleration. We have a clear view, open and empty back road and putting the car in second and then booting it hard, lifting off and booting it again makes them scream with delight as would any normal child. They also find spinning round a field hilarious.

It boils down to time and place but it's a rare child who doesn't find it tremendous fun.

I suspect that in the cases alluded to by the OP what is more likely at play is that the child in question is of vastly superior intellect than its father and is aware that it is in the hands of a low functioner.