So you are going through and average speed camera zone......
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mat205125 said:
One thing I've always struggled with is where the average cameras take their readings from, without a marked line on the ground.
Any ideas?
SPECS doesn't measure your speed. It just measures that you passed it at a time. Then a precise distance down the road, another does the same. Speed is distance over time, and both the distance and time are known so average speed can be calculated. Any ideas?
Driver101 said:
Some people know they won't pass two cameras on their short journey in the average speed zone.
They get away with speeding as there will be no average.
I did follow a car onto the M3 at J3 recently who obviously thought that there wasn't a SPECS gantry until a bit further up the motorway, so booted it down the slip road and then slowed down just before the first SPECS.They get away with speeding as there will be no average.
Unfortunately he wasn't observant enough to spot the single SPECS camera covering the slip road
An indicated 60mph on most cars isn't going to get you points through a SPECS-enforced 50mph zone and traffic on the M3 section seems to cruise along at 49-59mph most of the time I'm on it.
TBH, it does seem to have helped it flow more freely at rush hour. I suppose that proves a point, but I'd die of boredom if I had to drive at 50-something mph on all motorways all the time.
[quote]See this loads, and also quite often the same people slamming on the brakes just before the camera gantries.
I suppose there is no helping the brainless. I suspect they believe all these "police warnings" on Facebook about children being abducted in white transits, and carjacking at the local Morrisons, etc,etc,etc.
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I'm not sure whether they get fined or not but I suspect a large part of it is this ^. Its worrying that you can be allowed to drive a car without knowing the meaning of the word 'average' and then slam all on every time you pass one of the cameras... There should be a law against stupidity - that'd solve a lot of the problems on the UKs roads.
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I suppose there is no helping the brainless. I suspect they believe all these "police warnings" on Facebook about children being abducted in white transits, and carjacking at the local Morrisons, etc,etc,etc.
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I'm not sure whether they get fined or not but I suspect a large part of it is this ^. Its worrying that you can be allowed to drive a car without knowing the meaning of the word 'average' and then slam all on every time you pass one of the cameras... There should be a law against stupidity - that'd solve a lot of the problems on the UKs roads.
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hora said:
Some idiots seem to think there is still a long-standing dispute between the GMP and the highways/Gov over the 50mph limit enforcement on the M60....
The dispute ended two weeks ago.
I aint going to tell the idiots, let a letter through the post tell them.
Hopefully the f
king truck driver who tried killing me on the M60 (because I stuck to the 50mph limit then) and my family will trigger the cameras a few times too and lose his job.
Are you still bleating on about that? The dispute ended two weeks ago.
I aint going to tell the idiots, let a letter through the post tell them.
Hopefully the f
king truck driver who tried killing me on the M60 (because I stuck to the 50mph limit then) and my family will trigger the cameras a few times too and lose his job. 
As you were told in the last thread, don't hog the middle lane then.
I see it a lot - I always select the slow lane and rigidly put the correct speed as per speedo into cruise control.
If others want to go faster so be it off you go - one thing I don't like is when you can have the slow lane splitting away from the others then attics inches from your bumper flashing you to go faster... Hmm nope value my licence
If others want to go faster so be it off you go - one thing I don't like is when you can have the slow lane splitting away from the others then attics inches from your bumper flashing you to go faster... Hmm nope value my licence
LordGrover said:
mat205125 said:
If you're doing 50mph by your speedo, and your tyres are getting a bit close to replacement, and your pressures aren't as well maintained as they should be, it's quite likely that you could be doing only 46mph maybe.
If you use your satnav or phone to measure your GPS speed, this could be a more accurate way of gauging that you are travelling at a true 50mph ..... Depending on conditions, surroundings, equipment etc, the GPS might not be as accurate as at other times, and should not be considered as some kind of precise atomic Greenwich reference.
Never the less .....
If you were to consider GPS as 100% accurate, then "theoretically" the Police should give you some leeway to account for the inaccuracy of your speedo ..... 10% is typically suggested for this. If one were so inclined, you could creep your speed up to 54.99999mph without risking a ticket. Theoretically! With your less than new tyres, maybe your speedo could be reading 59mph by then.
I'm sure you're right. I can't be arsed with the maths but an extra 5-10mph for 5 miles won't make enough difference to my journey time to justify the stress, worry and risk about getting caught, fined and points. I suppose I'm just getting old.If you use your satnav or phone to measure your GPS speed, this could be a more accurate way of gauging that you are travelling at a true 50mph ..... Depending on conditions, surroundings, equipment etc, the GPS might not be as accurate as at other times, and should not be considered as some kind of precise atomic Greenwich reference.
Never the less .....
If you were to consider GPS as 100% accurate, then "theoretically" the Police should give you some leeway to account for the inaccuracy of your speedo ..... 10% is typically suggested for this. If one were so inclined, you could creep your speed up to 54.99999mph without risking a ticket. Theoretically! With your less than new tyres, maybe your speedo could be reading 59mph by then.
Smiler. said:
devnull said:
...crimp......
There's always someone who is steaming up behind. I always take the premise that they need a poo and are willing to take 3 points in lieu of stting themselves.
Agreed, would be a pretty crap defence, eh! There's always someone who is steaming up behind. I always take the premise that they need a poo and are willing to take 3 points in lieu of s
tting themselves.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/465718.stm
J4CKO said:
Doggedly stuck at 50 mph (or whatever limit) with everybody else crawling along, wondering what you can get away with and whether switching lanes and lurking behind lorries will work, and then, there is always that one car that goes steaming through 20 or 30 mph faster !
Who are these people ? do they wonder why everybody is going so slow, do they know something we dont ? do they get lots of post from the Central Ticketing Office ?
M60 a few days ago, in the long and tedious 50 mph section and a girl in a new looking Audi A1 goes through a good deal faster than anyone else, then a scratty old Zafira.
What is going on ?
I asked something similar on here a year or two ago having sat at 50 in roadworks with average speed cameras on the M62 on numerous occasions. A few months later I read an article saying these cameras had caught over 11,000 people, so I then felt a bit less foolish for doggedly doing the 'right' thing.Who are these people ? do they wonder why everybody is going so slow, do they know something we dont ? do they get lots of post from the Central Ticketing Office ?
M60 a few days ago, in the long and tedious 50 mph section and a girl in a new looking Audi A1 goes through a good deal faster than anyone else, then a scratty old Zafira.
What is going on ?
The A12 is currently infested with the damn things, it wouldn't be difficult to collect a full 12 points in a single journey from London to Ipswich. I just set the cruise control to whatever the limit is and plod along, the difference between 40/45, 50/55 or 60/65 isn't worth the 2 week checking the post every day for a ticket routine. Been there, done that.
Edited by RYH64E on Monday 27th April 21:28
RYH64E said:
The A12 is currently infested with the damn things, it wouldn't be difficult to collect a full 12 points in a single jorney from London to Ipswich. I just set the cruise control to whatever the limit is and plod along, the difference between 40/45, 50/55 or 60/65 isn't worth the 2 week checking the post every day for a ticket routine. Been there, done that.
Did that journey today. I drove up from London to Halesworth to pick up Mrs B's new Subaru Forester & then back down South again. On the way up everyone stuck to the 40 limit. However, driving home again, in one of the sections, I was passed by three really rapid cars in quick succession. They were each travelling well above the indicated limit.I'd love to know whether they get nicked. But, I never will.
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