BMW Z3 with Ferrari 250 SWB kit
Discussion
GTRene said:
I think best is to use a Z3 with around plate damage? or how you say such, then its not so hard to use the Z3 base.
I think you mean it would be best to use a Z3 with front-end damage as the front of the car (bumper, bonnet and wings) is not needed.
yes, but also side damage, I believe you don't need much from the outside of the donor car.
you can also sell the original good 'shell' parts.
in Dutch I would say, plaatwerk, but that does not translate very well...
but say a with front/rear/wings etc damaged car could be a cheap donor, you don't need those outside parts I guess.
when you look at those parts>
but no idea how they fit all on the base car, bounding or screwing? would be nice to see the base car done from all unnecessary parts.
you can also sell the original good 'shell' parts.
in Dutch I would say, plaatwerk, but that does not translate very well...
but say a with front/rear/wings etc damaged car could be a cheap donor, you don't need those outside parts I guess.
when you look at those parts>
but no idea how they fit all on the base car, bounding or screwing? would be nice to see the base car done from all unnecessary parts.
Edited by GTRene on Monday 4th May 19:51
hm seeing prices for complete ones starting from 1.700,-gbp you won't have to buy a damaged car, when you sell
the good parts from such 'cheap' Z3 you got one for free
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=us...
of course M model prices are in a different category.
the good parts from such 'cheap' Z3 you got one for free
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=us...
of course M model prices are in a different category.
GTRene said:
hm seeing prices for complete ones starting from 1.700,-gbp you won't have to buy a damaged car, when you sell
the good parts from such 'cheap' Z3 you got one for free
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=us...
of course M model prices are in a different category.
I agree. Accident damaged Z3s are cheap. I wonder how much a finished 250 replica would be worth?the good parts from such 'cheap' Z3 you got one for free
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds?Category=us...
of course M model prices are in a different category.
pingu393 said:
I agree. Accident damaged Z3s are cheap. I wonder how much a finished 250 replica would be worth?
Less than it cost to build is the way with all these things, and you typically end up with a finished product that is worse than the original.But its fun to do, which is why we do it :-)
Properly fettled and with a lot of time on the finishing touches it would make a great fairly cheap weekend toy, and there should be no ferrari badges in sight, it has nothing to do with one, its a BMW with a retro body.
I would swap out the grille for a Kidney style one, add some brightwork in places and do something with those windscreen pillars, they look to modern, and a decent retro interior.
Edited by PAUL500 on Tuesday 5th May 09:52
PAUL500 said:
Less than it cost to build is the way with all these things, and you typically end up with a finished product that is worse than the original.
But its fun to do, which is why we do it :-)
Properly fettled and with a lot of time on the finishing touches it would make a great fairly cheap weekend toy, and there should be no ferrari badges in sight, it has nothing to do with one, its a BMW with a retro body.
I would swap out the grille for a Kidney style one, add some brightwork in places and do something with those windscreen pillars, they look to modern, and a decent retro interior.
Those would be sensible changes. But its fun to do, which is why we do it :-)
Properly fettled and with a lot of time on the finishing touches it would make a great fairly cheap weekend toy, and there should be no ferrari badges in sight, it has nothing to do with one, its a BMW with a retro body.
I would swap out the grille for a Kidney style one, add some brightwork in places and do something with those windscreen pillars, they look to modern, and a decent retro interior.
Edited by PAUL500 on Tuesday 5th May 09:52
This sort of kit is actually the kind of thing I'd build for my daughters. Fun for me to do and gives them a boggo small car with all mod cons etc but just looking different and fun. As others have said, very many kits are based in cars which were fked when they rolled off the assembly line, let alone a decade later.
And they Tribute Automotive have already developed a unique convertible version.
Both cars were at Stoneleigh Kit Car show this weekend.
Tribute have invested a massive amount of man hours developing both kits - you can see how it goes together on the madaboutkitcars forums and all the problems they had to overcome to improve ease of construction
I'm struggling to think of a more pretty, IVA free rebody that can be built from around 10k up..
Both great looking, reliable modern tourers.
Both cars were at Stoneleigh Kit Car show this weekend.
Tribute have invested a massive amount of man hours developing both kits - you can see how it goes together on the madaboutkitcars forums and all the problems they had to overcome to improve ease of construction
I'm struggling to think of a more pretty, IVA free rebody that can be built from around 10k up..
Both great looking, reliable modern tourers.
Edited by headrush on Wednesday 6th May 17:35
So the main complaints appear to be:
Wrong Wheels
Modern Interior
Trying to be a car that it is not
Here is one I prepared earlier.
Z3 Donor
Wire wheels not bolt-ons
Interior with (most) plastic removed
Not a copy of anything, just in the '50s style
Okay, the interior keeps the BMW dash and dials but I could justify the cost of ripping out and replacing the whole thing so just stripped out the plastic centre and behind the seats. Kept all the modern switches out of sight behind the fake toggle panel
I like it and am happy with it. If you want to slate it then feel free though, each to their own.
Wrong Wheels
Modern Interior
Trying to be a car that it is not
Here is one I prepared earlier.
Z3 Donor
Wire wheels not bolt-ons
Interior with (most) plastic removed
Not a copy of anything, just in the '50s style
Okay, the interior keeps the BMW dash and dials but I could justify the cost of ripping out and replacing the whole thing so just stripped out the plastic centre and behind the seats. Kept all the modern switches out of sight behind the fake toggle panel
I like it and am happy with it. If you want to slate it then feel free though, each to their own.
Very nice! The workmanship that's gone into it is obvious, although I'd be very tempted to go the whole hog and do the dash.
FWIW I think a replica with a comedy badge would be great - enjoy that gorgeous shape (or a close approximation anyway) with a bit of humour. Don't the Volvo guys have a prancing moose badge?
FWIW I think a replica with a comedy badge would be great - enjoy that gorgeous shape (or a close approximation anyway) with a bit of humour. Don't the Volvo guys have a prancing moose badge?
wca said:
So the main complaints appear to be:
Wrong Wheels
Modern Interior
Trying to be a car that it is not
Here is one I prepared earlier.
Z3 Donor
Wire wheels not bolt-ons
Interior with (most) plastic removed
Not a copy of anything, just in the '50s style
Okay, the interior keeps the BMW dash and dials but I could justify the cost of ripping out and replacing the whole thing so just stripped out the plastic centre and behind the seats. Kept all the modern switches out of sight behind the fake toggle panel
I like it and am happy with it. If you want to slate it then feel free though, each to their own.
I really admire your skill!Wrong Wheels
Modern Interior
Trying to be a car that it is not
Here is one I prepared earlier.
Z3 Donor
Wire wheels not bolt-ons
Interior with (most) plastic removed
Not a copy of anything, just in the '50s style
Okay, the interior keeps the BMW dash and dials but I could justify the cost of ripping out and replacing the whole thing so just stripped out the plastic centre and behind the seats. Kept all the modern switches out of sight behind the fake toggle panel
I like it and am happy with it. If you want to slate it then feel free though, each to their own.
I had the idea to try do doing something similar with a Z4...kind of a retro-racer style. I come up with ideas in my head but don't really know how to go about getting them done.
For instance, how do you go about even getting new shaped body panels?
headrush said:
And they Tribute Automotive have already developed a unique convertible version.
Both cars were at Stoneleigh Kit Car show this weekend.
Tribute have invested a massive amount of man hours developing both kits - you can see how it goes together on the madaboutkitcars forums and all the problems they had to overcome to improve ease of construction
I'm struggling to think of a more pretty, IVA free rebody that can be built from around 10k up..
Both great looking, reliable modern tourers.
I think they are very nice looking cars and would happliy have one BUT not with Ferrari badges. I would even say that putting BMW badges on it would be perfect as it shows what it is, a nice rebody of a reasonable sports car. Both cars were at Stoneleigh Kit Car show this weekend.
Tribute have invested a massive amount of man hours developing both kits - you can see how it goes together on the madaboutkitcars forums and all the problems they had to overcome to improve ease of construction
I'm struggling to think of a more pretty, IVA free rebody that can be built from around 10k up..
Both great looking, reliable modern tourers.
Edited by headrush on Wednesday 6th May 17:35
wca said:
So the main complaints appear to be:
Wrong Wheels
Modern Interior
Trying to be a car that it is not
Here is one I prepared earlier.
Z3 Donor
Wire wheels not bolt-ons
Interior with (most) plastic removed
Not a copy of anything, just in the '50s style
Okay, the interior keeps the BMW dash and dials but I could justify the cost of ripping out and replacing the whole thing so just stripped out the plastic centre and behind the seats. Kept all the modern switches out of sight behind the fake toggle panel
I like it and am happy with it. If you want to slate it then feel free though, each to their own.
That does look lovely!Wrong Wheels
Modern Interior
Trying to be a car that it is not
Here is one I prepared earlier.
Z3 Donor
Wire wheels not bolt-ons
Interior with (most) plastic removed
Not a copy of anything, just in the '50s style
Okay, the interior keeps the BMW dash and dials but I could justify the cost of ripping out and replacing the whole thing so just stripped out the plastic centre and behind the seats. Kept all the modern switches out of sight behind the fake toggle panel
I like it and am happy with it. If you want to slate it then feel free though, each to their own.
I spent six months in bed injured so plenty of time to doodle. chose a Z3 as a cheap way of getting a decent engine with an automatic box - injury dictated that. Googled lots of fabricators and settled on Chris at Tribute Automotive because of the quality of his work and he wasn't based miles away.
Took the drawings and the donor and spent time explaining what I was aiming for but left Chris enough scope for his own touches.
Okay, it cost me more than the £1995 you now pay for the kit but it was done exactly as I wanted so was happy to pay.. Then spent ages doing all the finishing stuff like wheels, stripping interior, designing new interior. Again I went to a professional to get the trimming work done as I didn't want to invest in the leather working and carpeting equipment required. Pleased with the result.
Pleased with the positive reception here.
BTW I am also getting a modded 250SWB front end for swapping when I feel like it. Friday? Ferrari, Monday? Mine. Happy daze
Took the drawings and the donor and spent time explaining what I was aiming for but left Chris enough scope for his own touches.
Okay, it cost me more than the £1995 you now pay for the kit but it was done exactly as I wanted so was happy to pay.. Then spent ages doing all the finishing stuff like wheels, stripping interior, designing new interior. Again I went to a professional to get the trimming work done as I didn't want to invest in the leather working and carpeting equipment required. Pleased with the result.
Pleased with the positive reception here.
BTW I am also getting a modded 250SWB front end for swapping when I feel like it. Friday? Ferrari, Monday? Mine. Happy daze
Edited by wca on Sunday 10th May 19:32
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