RE: Ford Mustang: Delivery Miles
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Ignominy or not, everything still gets compared to the VXR8 and it stands up very handsomely to the competition it has levelled against it. Personally not a fan of the Mustang's looks, but I can see the attraction it holds for some. Much prefer the Camaro's looks.
One factor people forget when mentioning the numbers of VXR8's sold is that VX are only allowed to bring in max 100 of these from Australia due to fleet emissions regulations (the very same that make Aston Martin rebadge a smart car) and as such they do not market it for the big numbers and rely on people seeking them out. As each and every one is built to order by HSV and then shipped to the UK, it makes no realistic difference to VX's bottom line whether they sell all 100 or not.
As said above though, good luck to shifting an LHD when the first of the RHD's hit the market! I can also see people selling their build slot for a good profit come nearer to delivery time.
One factor people forget when mentioning the numbers of VXR8's sold is that VX are only allowed to bring in max 100 of these from Australia due to fleet emissions regulations (the very same that make Aston Martin rebadge a smart car) and as such they do not market it for the big numbers and rely on people seeking them out. As each and every one is built to order by HSV and then shipped to the UK, it makes no realistic difference to VX's bottom line whether they sell all 100 or not.
As said above though, good luck to shifting an LHD when the first of the RHD's hit the market! I can also see people selling their build slot for a good profit come nearer to delivery time.
dc2rr07 said:
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Yup. Only reason to buy LHD is firstly that there is no RHD version and then if there is the price is at a significant discount. DonkeyApple said:
That's a lot of premium for something that is likely to have its residual decimated the moment the RHD hits the streets?
Exactly what I was thinking, with depreciation that will be about 20k in six months probably;)So with this you'll pay a significant premium to buy and the moment the RHD market settles it will get hit with a significant discount. You'd get bum raped on entry and exit.
Although I'm buying a RHD UK Mustang, the US one would be preferable as a lot of our daft Euro rules have taken stuff from the American car and have changed other things for the worse.
LHD is not a problem as I have owned them before just that price makes the UK one a bargain.
Also the UK one is nearly 20 bhp down on the US one.
LHD is not a problem as I have owned them before just that price makes the UK one a bargain.
Also the UK one is nearly 20 bhp down on the US one.
C997 said:
I've just handed one back (convertible) to Sixt in Miami after having it for a month. It looks great, the interior is good, seats are excellent, the audio is good, loads of toys, etc. It's reasonably quick but the gearbox is very slow to react and the paddle shift is what you would expect from paddles on an auto box.
All in all, a good package apart from the handling. It's scary at times when cornering. Maybe it's the concrete slab road surfaces over there but the back end literally skips sideways going round tight bends - bearing in mind tight is the on/off ramps on the freeways so not really tight. The scuttle shake has to be seen to be believed as well but obviously the hard tops wont have that issue.
I did a lot of miles in it over the month and really enjoyed it but a sports car it isn't.
No leading review or ownership experience is reporting the "scary" handling and "sideways" skipping that you cite.All in all, a good package apart from the handling. It's scary at times when cornering. Maybe it's the concrete slab road surfaces over there but the back end literally skips sideways going round tight bends - bearing in mind tight is the on/off ramps on the freeways so not really tight. The scuttle shake has to be seen to be believed as well but obviously the hard tops wont have that issue.
I did a lot of miles in it over the month and really enjoyed it but a sports car it isn't.
As others have mentioned, your comments resemble an older, live-axle car. Mustangs provided by rental car fleets in the US are not fully optioned. They do not include the upgraded suspension which is fitted as standard to Mustangs sold in the UK. You also don't say if your car was the V6 (the most numerous rental car Mustang available in the US) or the V8.
Sorry, but I don't believe that your experience is representative of what US and UK enthusiasts can expect. This sixth-generation Mustang is indeed a good sports car -- and it will be a huge hit.
Probably the best looking new car sub £50k and the fact you can get an NA V8 at the price you can is just fantastic. These are going to be a huge hit in the UK, but that in itself however would put me off. Seeing a few ecoboost models every morning would just spoil that special feeling.
croyde said:
Many reviews mention that it's handling is up there with the Euro cars that cost twice as much.
Also PH's mention of "previous incarnations have been embarrassingly outpaced by Europe's best" is not correct. The previous Mustang has been proved to be ever so slightly behind an M3 on a race track. And that's a car that still had the "cart wheel suspension" and cost roughly half of what the M3 cost. I seem to recall a 0.1 second difference at Willow Springs.V8Matthew said:
I'm guessing the UK-spec model will lose the sequential turn signals, which is a shame.
Although the LHD imports should too in theory, but I'm sure there will be some wizardry you could employ to switch them back following the IVA test...
Yes unfortunately they do lose the sequentials and the tribar rear lights are clear not red. Real shame as various other car makers have managed to show an amber light through a red lens.Although the LHD imports should too in theory, but I'm sure there will be some wizardry you could employ to switch them back following the IVA test...
SteveSteveson said:
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The 'Stang has a whole heap of mythos and history behind it.
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You can't buy any other car that is a Mustang.
This is a powerful observation. Mustang is not merely a physical thing, but an idea. (stop snickering, you lot in the back of the room)The 'Stang has a whole heap of mythos and history behind it.
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You can't buy any other car that is a Mustang.
Sure, it's a Yank car. But there is also something rather universal about Mustang. High time that it's on offer globally.
I've just handed one back after around 2000 miles down California and in to Vegas. This was a 2000 mile old convertible. As said above, great seats, great motorway cruiser. It's not quick (ecoboost), didn't handle well, scuttle shake is ridiculous (even the wife noticed it unprompted by me), and the gearbox is the kind of thing you expected 10 years ago. Paddles are VERY slow, changes are very slushy and the torque never seems to get through to the wheels fully, always some level of slipping. Overall it was an ok car, but it's definitely not a sporty car. My lasting memory of it is poor execution. The front bumper kept popping away from the wings in the Nevada Desert heat, the seat belt creased every time put it on as it passed through the guide on the seat, the roof creaked and rattled constantly, which was 10x more noticeable due to otherwise good road and wind noise.
Based on this it would have to be a V8 manual coupe, but I think even that will fail to cut it for most European sports car drivers. I like the romantic idea of having one, having driven down the Big Sur and Santa Monica beach front in one with the top down etc, but you just don't get that kind of enjoyment from a car in the UK, it needs to be better.
Based on this it would have to be a V8 manual coupe, but I think even that will fail to cut it for most European sports car drivers. I like the romantic idea of having one, having driven down the Big Sur and Santa Monica beach front in one with the top down etc, but you just don't get that kind of enjoyment from a car in the UK, it needs to be better.
Having recently moved to America for a while I decided to purchase the 99-04 Mustang. Agreed with a few reviewers above, you're not buying a refined, competitive car (260Bhp from 4.6 V8 compared to what German equivalents can get.) It's the heritage, and the fact it's a Mustang.
Mine came with a factory fitted 1000W stereo but I hardly want it on as I enjoy listening to the V8 burble with the roof down. And yes there's scuttle shake, and structural noise, and the roof rattles when up and everything doesn't quite fit perfectly but it's the joy of owning something I couldn't in the UK.
By the sounds of it the 2015 will be very popular, and is meant to be far more refined than predecessors. I really hope they do well. The UK seems to love them based on preorders! But I would rather wait, get a RHD, and pay £10k less!
Mine came with a factory fitted 1000W stereo but I hardly want it on as I enjoy listening to the V8 burble with the roof down. And yes there's scuttle shake, and structural noise, and the roof rattles when up and everything doesn't quite fit perfectly but it's the joy of owning something I couldn't in the UK.
By the sounds of it the 2015 will be very popular, and is meant to be far more refined than predecessors. I really hope they do well. The UK seems to love them based on preorders! But I would rather wait, get a RHD, and pay £10k less!
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