"selling for a friend" reason to steer clear?
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Sheepshanks said:
AudiSport said:
Money paid into my account, when cleared I released the car then sent to my friend.
That's risky from the buyers point of view if they're relying on protection from HPI - the deal has to be done with the RK at the address on the V5C.If i was the buyer and the engine blew up on the way home its the guy i paid the money to's door i'm going to be hammering for a refund or to sort it out.
Edited by daemon on Monday 4th May 09:56
TheEnd said:
Yep, it's one of those clauses so someone can avoid answering a lot of questions and plead ignorance.
Similar to the grandfather's Rolex and lost box/papers,
Funnily enough I wanted to sell my Omega a couple of months and realised that I'd genuinely lost all my boxes and papers so gave up and kept the watch!Similar to the grandfather's Rolex and lost box/papers,
daemon said:
Its risky full stop. Whats the difference between "selling the odd car for a friend" and "selling the odd car buy saying you're selling it for a friend" to avoid obligations under the SOGA.
If i was the buyer and the engine blew up on the way home its the guy i paid the money to's door i'm going to be hammering for a refund or to sort it out.
And you'd have no luck regardless of whether it was his car, his friend's, or whoevers.... If i was the buyer and the engine blew up on the way home its the guy i paid the money to's door i'm going to be hammering for a refund or to sort it out.
Edited by daemon on Monday 4th May 09:56
31mph said:
daemon said:
Its risky full stop. Whats the difference between "selling the odd car for a friend" and "selling the odd car buy saying you're selling it for a friend" to avoid obligations under the SOGA.
If i was the buyer and the engine blew up on the way home its the guy i paid the money to's door i'm going to be hammering for a refund or to sort it out.
And you'd have no luck regardless of whether it was his car, his friend's, or whoevers.... If i was the buyer and the engine blew up on the way home its the guy i paid the money to's door i'm going to be hammering for a refund or to sort it out.
Edited by daemon on Monday 4th May 09:56
I placed an advert on here stating selling for a friend.
Said friends dad had died, the family had asked me for help to sell the car on.
I explained the situation on the ad, and got a call from a PHer wishing to buy the car.
Sadly, the site of the car being outside the house was too much and they had sold it, for a low ball price to a local garage.
Some times it can be for genuine reasons so don't write the car off without digging further.
I wished i could have sold the car, it would have went to a guy who was wishing it for his wife to use, the family would have gotten a fair price for the car and it would have went 300 miles south, instead of being local and being seen regularly.
Said friends dad had died, the family had asked me for help to sell the car on.
I explained the situation on the ad, and got a call from a PHer wishing to buy the car.
Sadly, the site of the car being outside the house was too much and they had sold it, for a low ball price to a local garage.
Some times it can be for genuine reasons so don't write the car off without digging further.
I wished i could have sold the car, it would have went to a guy who was wishing it for his wife to use, the family would have gotten a fair price for the car and it would have went 300 miles south, instead of being local and being seen regularly.
I'm selling a VW camper om behalf of my mother in law as her husband passed away and it is too tough for her to deal with.
I'm honest about that in the ad, is that why I get few responses? (I know, people will always say it is the price but I think it is cheaper than equivalent vans...)
I'm honest about that in the ad, is that why I get few responses? (I know, people will always say it is the price but I think it is cheaper than equivalent vans...)
carmadgaz said:
e8_pack said:
Did you use the line "selling for a friend"
Yes because I was. As AudiSport said I also had my friend's contact information available (and as it happened both buyers knew my friend) and was basically told a price he wanted and the lowest he'd take. His older brother brought me round the V5C when the buyers were found.
I did a favour for a mate, cleared two cars out of my yard (he SORNd them when his new car arrived and was storing them in my yard), 2 buyers were happy and the seller was happy. Everyone's a winner
daemon said:
Its risky full stop. Whats the difference between "selling the odd car for a friend" and "selling the odd car buy saying you're selling it for a friend" to avoid obligations under the SOGA.
If i was the buyer and the engine blew up on the way home its the guy i paid the money to's door i'm going to be hammering for a refund or to sort it out.
And if that had happened my mate would have paid to sort the engine out, or give the buyers their money back. It was a genuine sale, under genuine circumstances. Yes you can take the circumstances to the extreme to imply it was wrong to do - but at the end of the day the car needed to be sold, and it was done in an honest way without misleading anyone. Would I do it again for someone? Yes.If i was the buyer and the engine blew up on the way home its the guy i paid the money to's door i'm going to be hammering for a refund or to sort it out.
Edited by daemon on Monday 4th May 09:56
e8_pack said:
carmadgaz said:
e8_pack said:
Did you use the line "selling for a friend"
Yes because I was. As AudiSport said I also had my friend's contact information available (and as it happened both buyers knew my friend) and was basically told a price he wanted and the lowest he'd take. His older brother brought me round the V5C when the buyers were found.
I did a favour for a mate, cleared two cars out of my yard (he SORNd them when his new car arrived and was storing them in my yard), 2 buyers were happy and the seller was happy. Everyone's a winner
I tend to own my cars until they get scrapped or I part-ex them at a dealers. On the 2 occasions I have sold my own vehicles I have sold them as the seller not the middleman because that is what I am. Why the f
k are you determined to find deception where there is none?carmadgaz said:
e8_pack said:
carmadgaz said:
e8_pack said:
Did you use the line "selling for a friend"
Yes because I was. As AudiSport said I also had my friend's contact information available (and as it happened both buyers knew my friend) and was basically told a price he wanted and the lowest he'd take. His older brother brought me round the V5C when the buyers were found.
I did a favour for a mate, cleared two cars out of my yard (he SORNd them when his new car arrived and was storing them in my yard), 2 buyers were happy and the seller was happy. Everyone's a winner
I tend to own my cars until they get scrapped or I part-ex them at a dealers. On the 2 occasions I have sold my own vehicles I have sold them as the seller not the middleman because that is what I am. Why the f
k are you determined to find deception where there is none?"I sold them both the same way as I would sell my own."
Which you advertised as "selling for a friend"
Very odd.
e8_pack said:
Because you said:
"I sold them both the same way as I would sell my own."
Which you advertised as "selling for a friend"
Very odd.
Oh haha you know full well what I meant."I sold them both the same way as I would sell my own."
Which you advertised as "selling for a friend"
Very odd.
but for the sake of clarity...
If I am selling for a friend I make it clear I am selling on their behalf and they can speak to the owner if they so wish. ASIDE from that I treat it the same as I would my own vehicle. As in I make sure I have all the old paperwork I can get hold of, I will be honest with the condition (I went over my friends car same as I would my own, even fixed the tailgate on the Stilo) and I know going in the lowest amount I will take.
I don't see the problem providing the seller passes the attitude test.
I've done this on more than one occasion - twice for a friend, again for a cousin then one last year for my girlfriend's mum. The first were due to lack of time on their part due to work (I have the advantage of a job where I can be home by 5:15) and other half's mum was because the car in question was the only she'd ever owned and she didn't want to be there when someone else drove it off!
I'm open from the outset with buyers and list all known problems in the ad as I would when selling my own cars. I can see why it would make buyers nervous though due to the "innit bruv" eBay wannabe motor traders, but there definitely can be legitimate situations where someone sells a car for somebody else.
I've done this on more than one occasion - twice for a friend, again for a cousin then one last year for my girlfriend's mum. The first were due to lack of time on their part due to work (I have the advantage of a job where I can be home by 5:15) and other half's mum was because the car in question was the only she'd ever owned and she didn't want to be there when someone else drove it off!
I'm open from the outset with buyers and list all known problems in the ad as I would when selling my own cars. I can see why it would make buyers nervous though due to the "innit bruv" eBay wannabe motor traders, but there definitely can be legitimate situations where someone sells a car for somebody else.
Sheepshanks said:
Renovation said:
I always used to sell all my friends cars as they didn't like to and weren't any good at it.
They gave me a drink for my trouble - everyone's a winner.
How do buyers pay - are these cash deals?They gave me a drink for my trouble - everyone's a winner.
I've always said they are welcome to meet the owner & collect the car from the address on the V5 if they wish - no one ever has.
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