RE: Shed Of The Week: Ford Scorpio 24v

RE: Shed Of The Week: Ford Scorpio 24v

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GJR68

251 posts

108 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Bit like Barbara Streisand, butt ugly, but good vocals and talented in certain respects.

londonbabe

2,044 posts

192 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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Ford reckoned no normally aspirated 3.0-litre could beat 190bhp?

Not even the Mercedes 300E-24 which had 231bhp four years earlier?

carinaman

21,274 posts

172 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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B'stard Child said:
Zumbruk said:
Buy it. Put the engine in a Capri (or a TVR 'S') and weigh the rest in. Sorted. One less gopping ugly PoS on the roads.
A mate of mine did just that

5 stud hubs too. From the same donor?

The 4 litre V6 in the Explorer and the Mustang of a few years ago is a Cologne derivative. Aint no substitute for cubes an all that.

31mph

1,308 posts

135 months

Friday 1st May 2015
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61GT said:
The Badger said:


This guy made win.
That looks far better than I remember them, haven't seen one on the road for a long time.
That one actually looks pretty good! thumbup

carpetsoiler

1,958 posts

165 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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31mph said:
61GT said:
The Badger said:


This guy made win.
That looks far better than I remember them, haven't seen one on the road for a long time.
That one actually looks pretty good! thumbup
Agreed with above- the facelift did that car a lot of favours, in particular with the redone grille, dechroming, and nicer dusky headlights.

I'd like to try one out, especially with a manual box and slippy diff- could be quite the drift machine if you played it right...

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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VolvoT5 said:
tali1 said:
I've never seen one with a Cosworth engine is what I meant. Although coincidentally there is one on ebay at the moment so I was wrong anyway.

Also, all the talk of 25mpg seems optimistic!
Holy grail find .Ultra rarrrrre.Someone on another forum who worked at a Ford dealer claimed he saw plenty of the 24v estates.Talking utter gobste.

832ark

1,226 posts

156 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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londonbabe said:
Ford reckoned no normally aspirated 3.0-litre could beat 190bhp?

Not even the Mercedes 300E-24 which had 231bhp four years earlier?
My first thought exactly. The retards obviously hadn't heard of the NSX or the e36 M3. Honda were pulling 200bhp from an NA 1.8 FFS!

Edit: the Senator 24v and 300sl 24 were also 3 litre and more powerful.

Edited by 832ark on Saturday 2nd May 01:55

carinaman

21,274 posts

172 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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This Scorpio needs to be in the end of the year SoTW poll.

HustleRussell

24,625 posts

160 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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832ark said:
londonbabe said:
Ford reckoned no normally aspirated 3.0-litre could beat 190bhp?

Not even the Mercedes 300E-24 which had 231bhp four years earlier?
My first thought exactly. The retards obviously hadn't heard of the NSX or the e36 M3. Honda were pulling 200bhp from an NA 1.8 FFS!

Edit: the Senator 24v and 300sl 24 were also 3 litre and more powerful.
No, the article said

article said:
195hp at 4,500rpm. Ford reckoned no normally aspirated 3.0-litre could beat that figure.
Quite a difference between 195bhp at 4,500 RPM and 195bhp at 5,500 RPM for example. It's quite a good figure and it shows that despite giving the engine multivalve heads, Ford wasn't chasing peak output figures but a wide spread of usable power which'd match well with the nature of the car and automatic gearbox.

ess

791 posts

178 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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carinaman said:
Sadly this video featuring Sir Jackie Stewart is for an earlier Scorpio:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omaiE1M8nzY

It also features someone that I suspect was an influence on Alan Partridge.

Wasn't that TV front man later caught out in some Coke and Hookers scandal?
Yes, Frank Bough.

He even says in the vid that with the rear seats folded down you could hold a party in there.

kellyt

158 posts

119 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Ah, no! My eyes. I look forward to SOTW, with the pithy observations around some unsung bargetastic bargains. But that awful aberration. That slur on Ford's styling. That ungodly vomit of ugliness from the pit of hell. I think I'll have to lie down for a bit.

B'stard Child

28,363 posts

246 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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carinaman said:
B'stard Child said:
Zumbruk said:
Buy it. Put the engine in a Capri (or a TVR 'S') and weigh the rest in. Sorted. One less gopping ugly PoS on the roads.
A mate of mine did just that

5 stud hubs too. From the same donor?

The 4 litre V6 in the Explorer and the Mustang of a few years ago is a Cologne derivative. Aint no substitute for cubes an all that.
Yeah more than just the engine was used from the donor

RobertDawson

17 posts

110 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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thenomis said:
Great shed, as it grabbed the attention and made me read on, thoroughly entertained.
Awful car, though.
Send me an Omega or Senator any day over this or better still take me back to last week's Alfa 164.
Last weeks' 2.0, 4 cylinder, 145 hp. front wheel drive Alfa? No thanks, I'd rather have this 2.9 V6, 210 hp. rear wheel drive Ford.

S0 What

3,358 posts

172 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Frankly it's ugly as fook BUT the engine goes rather well in any smaller ford, i've driven 24V transits, cortinas, capris and even had a ride in a 24V corsair and i have to say it's the best place for them!
The earlyer BOA is the easyest swap as the later BOB engined cars had built in PATS to the ECU so required a bit more work wiring wise, you can use the earlyer loom on the later engine but then loose control of the the vairiable intake.
In short, a lovely engine in a car designed by a pissed up short sighted idiot laugh

njw1

2,064 posts

111 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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As others have said, how Ford decided THAT was a worthy replacement for the mk3 Granada is utterly beyond me. I was offered a 2.9 12v saloon variant a few years ago (in a lovely dark blue with huge leather seats!) for next to nothing and if I didn't buy it then it was getting weighed in and I just couldn't bring myself to save it and I have quite a passion for big rwd Fords having owned numerous Sierras and a mk3 Granada. Interestingly, the Granada was the second most comfiest car I've ever driven after an e39 and I don't think there was much in it to be honest.

Edit; with regards to these being auto only I can remember a guy who lived locally having a manual mk3 Granada Cosworth, apparently it was an ex-police special order, it was black with black leather, lovely!




Edited by njw1 on Saturday 2nd May 17:45

redroadster

1,736 posts

232 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Did the Bentley designer do this before he moved ?

JackP1

1,269 posts

162 months

Saturday 2nd May 2015
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Someones already snapped this up to rip the engine out and put in a sierra.

ES335

154 posts

166 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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The front end is a stretched and squashed frogeye Sprite.

No worse than a W210 Merc - though that's not saying much.

TheAngryDog

12,405 posts

209 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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I preferred the Mk3, and owned a Mk3 with the BOA, which also looked "nicer" as an engine.


leedsutd1

770 posts

186 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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I think Ford were going for a American look at the time , Puma ,Cougar , Probe, Scorpio,
In last year has been a lot of sierra cosworths been sold minus the engine (Engine gone into MK2 Escorts);
Plenty of people are putting The engine out of this Scorpio into sierra cosworths and putting them back on the road, have seen a few for sale