£70k everyday sports/supercar
Discussion
mattf93 said:
Lotus/Evora?
As a daily driver? No thanks, great for a blast, but wouldn't want one as a daily just too harsh and not much in the way or comfort/toys.
All down to personal opinion and how many miles you do mind you, if you only do tiny miles I guess its not that bad!
It rides like an Audi and has large, adjustable and comfortable seats, a lot of toys like cruise, good air con, sound system etc. Remarkably civilised place to be. I did 6 hours from Surrey to Yorkshire in mine yesterday and it was extremely comfortable and I am a lanky bloke with a dodgy back. I traded a supercharged Exige for mine when I lost use of my ex's TT for the longer distance drives and its more comfortable than the TT in terms of ride quality IMO.As a daily driver? No thanks, great for a blast, but wouldn't want one as a daily just too harsh and not much in the way or comfort/toys.
All down to personal opinion and how many miles you do mind you, if you only do tiny miles I guess its not that bad!
That said, running costs are generally reasonable but still £3k for an Evora clutch change when contrasting it to the poster below that mentioned £5k for a Gallardo one..
mattf93 said:
Just light hearted comments, procrastinating horrendously from revising (did I mention law is boring?)
I just enjoy a good debate - unless it gets personal like the odd comment on here seems to attract
Lets be honest it would be boring if everyone had the same opinion.
Its good to have differences!
Although in reference to the Lotus above, they have always been in my eyes a lightweight car that handles well, with good power/weight ratios, never have I seen one in my eyes as a prospect for a daily driver. (Ill point out that I haven't been in or driven an evora )
Nonetheless happy
Nothing personal. But it's PH etiquette to make clear when you are speaking without any relevant personal experience I just enjoy a good debate - unless it gets personal like the odd comment on here seems to attract
Lets be honest it would be boring if everyone had the same opinion.
Its good to have differences!
Although in reference to the Lotus above, they have always been in my eyes a lightweight car that handles well, with good power/weight ratios, never have I seen one in my eyes as a prospect for a daily driver. (Ill point out that I haven't been in or driven an evora )
Nonetheless happy
Edited by mattf93 on Thursday 7th May 13:51
I do it all the time. I have never driven a GTR but know I would rather shave my own newts than buy one.
Chris Stott said:
Good luck finding a 993 Turbo for £70K... you would get a NA 2S or 4S, but Turbo's are £100k+ now.
That is so mental. 4-5 years back these were £40k. Mind you, a good RHD 964 Turbo could be had then for £20k.Seriously, the only things to have done better than old Porsches and Ferrari 308s over the last 3 years have been biotech funds. And the latter are surely due a correction...
DonkeyApple said:
kambites said:
It'll be interesting to see if anyone actually imports LHD Mustangs now you can buy RHD ones.
It's definitely not a market I understand so my assumption would be that no one would do so. But maybe the US car thing is so strong that RHD cars are looked down upon?I have run a LHD car for just shy of six years and in that time have covered around 59,000 miles and other than a couple of weeks to adjust to it I can't say I have experienced any issues at all.
Those that want to import LHD versions of the new S550 are going to have a hard time shifting them for any profit as the one that is coming over is such good value for money in comparison to most European cars of comparable performance.
But for 70k budget I'd find the C6 Corvette, or a 2012 GT500 Mustang really hard to look past, certainly with the Mustang you'd have change to run it and the parts and servicing are going to be much less money than any European Sports/Super car again for comparable real world performance.
blueg33 said:
I have had a few goes in a mates 993 c2s, and I agree its neither dull nor slow. Its rather involving and very rewarding when you get it all spot on with balance, gear change etc
I had a 993 C2 as well - it was far more involving and rewarding than the 993 TT. Less is more sometimes. Harry Flashman said:
Chris Stott said:
Good luck finding a 993 Turbo for £70K... you would get a NA 2S or 4S, but Turbo's are £100k+ now.
That is so mental. 4-5 years back these were £40k. Mind you, a good RHD 964 Turbo could be had then for £20k.Seriously, the only things to have done better than old Porsches and Ferrari 308s over the last 3 years have been biotech funds. And the latter are surely due a correction...
I have a copy of EVO at home from August last year. There's a Carrera GT for sale at £350k (decent miles & spec). CGT's are over £500k now... so a 50%+ increase in c.8 months!
ORD said:
mattf93 said:
That car would do nothing for me at that kind of value, also very dated interior wise, and baring in mind its a daily driver I think that would cancel it out for me. That and the fact its just a 911 in a boring colour just adds negatively to that imo. That said new 911 would be very competent. Whilst I appreciate what you're saying that car is more of a 'collectors car' now rather than something that would be used for the daily grind.
Probably the most alarmingly ill-informed post for a while.Edited by mattf93 on Thursday 7th May 10:05
'Never driven any of these cars, or anything like them, but my childish prejudices are as follows:...'
craigjm said:
juansolo said:
Also true, but it's a better drivers car than the Porsche is. Depends where your priorities are.
An Evora is a better drivers car than a Cayman? juansolo said:
Spend some time with one. If that was the only criteria I bought a car on, I'd own the Evora. How that car goes down our roads is nothing short of witchcraft. refined handling vs aggressive. Steering is also better. Brakes are a little over sensitive, but the 981 has gone that way also, no difference there. The only thing that lets it down from a driving perspective is the gear selection. Which you can overlook because it does everything else so damned well. They're a spectacularly good car to drive.
981 brakes are, in my experience, about 10% more sensitive than 987, if that. Still miles miles better than most cars.16plates said:
ORD said:
981 brakes are, in my experience, about 10% more sensitive than 987, if that. Still miles miles better than most cars.
You must have incredible senses and second to none memory to record just a 10% difference in braking sensitivity...Remarkable claim.
In other words, from his experience he feels the brakes are noticeably more sensitive but not really by any amount to be significant?
DonkeyApple said:
I suspect the clue is in the word 'about' and the 'if that' bit? Plus, use of a round number also adds to the credence of it being a guesstimate. And the 'in my experience' bit explains that is is a subjective guesstimate.
In other words, from his experience he feels the brakes are noticeably more sensitive but not really by any amount to be significant?
In my opinion, from my experience i believe your post to be around 10% accurate. If that.In other words, from his experience he feels the brakes are noticeably more sensitive but not really by any amount to be significant?
(He's spouting ste - see what I mean?)
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