£70k everyday sports/supercar

£70k everyday sports/supercar

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LasseV

1,754 posts

134 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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hven said:
You would? don't do anything for me I'm afraid.

V12 Vantage does, but just not many around within range.
I would take that Evora too.

stuno1

1,318 posts

196 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Benbay001 said:
Evora for me, if i was in your position.
Me as well with Komo tech power upgrade to 405 or 425hp

mattf93

1,273 posts

116 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Lotus/Evora?

As a daily driver? No thanks, great for a blast, but wouldn't want one as a daily just too harsh and not much in the way or comfort/toys.

All down to personal opinion and how many miles you do mind you, if you only do tiny miles I guess its not that bad!

DonkeyApple

55,374 posts

170 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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mattf93 said:
Lotus/Evora?

As a daily driver? No thanks, great for a blast, but wouldn't want one as a daily just too harsh and not much in the way or comfort/toys.

All down to personal opinion and how many miles you do mind you, if you only do tiny miles I guess its not that bad!
I think they're remarkably easy daily drivers to be honest. Out of genuine interest, what is harsh about them in contrast to the other cars mentioned and also what toys are missing?

It's obvious by the lack of sales of Lotus that your view is very dominant but I'm not convinced that isn't more down to perception than reality?

hven

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32 posts

108 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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I just don't like the look of them, and the interior is not even close to being in the same quality as aston/audi etc...

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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If you would stop being so tight OP, there's a lovely 09-plate DBS (albeit with a st private number plate) on AT at the moment for £75k.

DonkeyApple

55,374 posts

170 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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hven said:
I just don't like the look of them, and the interior is not even close to being in the same quality as aston/audi etc...
Personally, I don't like the look, I think it needs a few tweets to make it look less dumpy and the grill makes it look special needs. But the interior is very good and not at all trying to be a generic family car to appeal to the masses. And it certainly drives better than a lot of cars mentioned.

But, I've never thought of the Audi interior as being quality. To me it's just the same sort of interior you get in any cheap, generic German car. It wouldn't cross my mind to compare it with something like an Aston interior.

Why not the Gallardo instead of R8?

stuno1

1,318 posts

196 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Fair few folk on the lotus owners club have them as daily drivers and they have as many toys as any of the cars mentioned and from what i have read the ride is very good. Big enough boot for food shop as well. Research I have don't contradicts what has been said.

Stu

DonkeyApple

55,374 posts

170 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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stuno1 said:
Fair few folk on the lotus owners club have them as daily drivers and they have as many toys as any of the cars mentioned and from what i have read the ride is very good. Big enough boot for food shop as well. Research I have don't contradicts what has been said.

Stu
Plus, it's also getting an auto box for urban folk.

hven

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32 posts

108 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
Personally, I don't like the look, I think it needs a few tweets to make it look less dumpy and the grill makes it look special needs. But the interior is very good and not at all trying to be a generic family car to appeal to the masses. And it certainly drives better than a lot of cars mentioned.

But, I've never thought of the Audi interior as being quality. To me it's just the same sort of interior you get in any cheap, generic German car. It wouldn't cross my mind to compare it with something like an Aston interior.

Why not the Gallardo instead of R8?
practicality, running/servicing costs.

Audi make quality interiors, no question about it. Yea you don't get as much leather as you do in some of the higher marques but everything is such high quality imo, especially compared to the equal BMW.

mattf93

1,273 posts

116 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
I think they're remarkably easy daily drivers to be honest. Out of genuine interest, what is harsh about them in contrast to the other cars mentioned and also what toys are missing?

It's obvious by the lack of sales of Lotus that your view is very dominant but I'm not convinced that isn't more down to perception than reality?
As a passenger in an exige I'll point out that it was great it was just buzzing all the time, it was never 'switched off' e.g. like in an R8/Aston you can change dampers depending on how you drive, and I personally think if you're going to spend that much money on a daily driver I really would expect/or buy more than a Lotus.

God they handle like pretty much nothing else, but their interior quality/tech is not a patch on audi/aston, louts are lightweight stripped out driver focused sportscars - not an accomplished daily in my opinion. Also noise in cabin is considerable in comparison to an R8 so you couldnt really have a comfortable conversation on a phone in an elise/exige - and I doubt an evora is too much better?

My opinion would be R8 V10 or DBS/V12 Vantage 100%. Would not go for a Lotus if I could pick a manual v12 vantage up not in a million years.

Mike22233

822 posts

112 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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mattf93 said:
Lotus/Evora?

As a daily driver? No thanks, great for a blast, but wouldn't want one as a daily just too harsh and not much in the way or comfort/toys.

All down to personal opinion and how many miles you do mind you, if you only do tiny miles I guess its not that bad!
You driven an Evora ??

stuno1

1,318 posts

196 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Op - Ubderstand your position you have some lovely cars in your budget smile

The evora interior is substantially better from MY2012 onwards.

In your position not liking the Evora it would be a vantage for me. The r8 doesn't feel all that special to me for some reason.

Stu

mattf93

1,273 posts

116 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Mike22233 said:
You driven an Evora ??
Nope, think I just tried to point out 1)only passenger and 2) haven't been in an evora which is meant to be a quicker more practical car.

Still not where Id put my money if it was my choice, just my personal opinion - cracking car in a bright blue though!

DonkeyApple

55,374 posts

170 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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hven said:
practicality, running/servicing costs.

Audi make quality interiors, no question about it. Yea you don't get as much leather as you do in some of the higher marques but everything is such high quality imo, especially compared to the equal BMW.
Fair enough. I'm not understanding the running costs bit. If you're buying a £70k car then running costs aren't exactly important or relevant. It would strike me as madness to be buying a car at that level based on running costs rather than what I actually wanted.

For example, it sounds like you are sold on an R8 but more because it looks cheaper to run than others rather than it being very specifically the car that you want to open your garage door and see every morning.

Spending £70k on something that you'll be sitting in every day where you already think the interior is 'ok', just 'ok' and where the purchase was defined by a lower hourly maintenance charge etc strikes me as completely missing the point of buying a car which isn't just a generic Euro box.

justin220

5,345 posts

205 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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mattf93 said:
Nope, think I just tried to point out 1)only passenger and 2) haven't been in an evora which is meant to be a quicker more practical car.

Still not where Id put my money if it was my choice, just my personal opinion - cracking car in a bright blue though!
The Evora is nothing like the Exige inside.

hven

Original Poster:

32 posts

108 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Some great suggestions. R8 and V12V still top of the list. I know this is totally different to all the other cars I've mentioned but I'd consider a new RS6 as well, starting to creep toward £60k.

otolith

56,167 posts

205 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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justin220 said:
The Evora is nothing like the Exige inside.
I think Lotus would sell a lot more Evoras if they could get more potential punters to drive one. Thinking it's like an Exige is a huge misconception.

craigjm

17,958 posts

201 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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otolith said:
I think Lotus would sell a lot more Evoras if they could get more potential punters to drive one. Thinking it's like an Exige is a huge misconception.
It isn't like an Exige but it's also not on par with a Cayman when it comes to quality of the interior and stuff like that

stuno1

1,318 posts

196 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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craigjm said:
It isn't like an Exige but it's also not on par with a Cayman when it comes to quality of the interior and stuff like that
I'd like to sit in a MY2012 evora and a Cayman. I don't think there will be a big difference. Especially as a lot of the new evora have suade which I think looks stunning. Ergonomics will be better in the pork though.