RE: Ford Mustang GT: Driven
Discussion
R8VXF said:
I really do prefer the lines of the previous generation mustang to this. Also, really not certain on the interior from the photos if I am honest. Compare this:
Conversely, I find that interior a massive improvement on the previous gen Mustang (which would have me instantly closing adverts when I browsed them in the classifieds).Skater12 said:
PH'ers will always want to go and opt for a manual over an american slush-box, unless a decent dual-cluth system comes in time.
I've driven a number of 'stangs over the years during visits to the US and based on those experieces i'd actually go for an auto over a manual.
This of course is only if you've opted for the 5.0 V8. Good 'ol boys style.
Some will, some won't. If I were in the market for one of these I'd buy the automatic because I prefer it, just as I did when I bought my '06 Mustang six years ago.I've driven a number of 'stangs over the years during visits to the US and based on those experieces i'd actually go for an auto over a manual.
This of course is only if you've opted for the 5.0 V8. Good 'ol boys style.
xRIEx said:
Conversely, I find that interior a massive improvement on the previous gen Mustang (which would have me instantly closing adverts when I browsed them in the classifieds).
Haven't looked at the interior of the previous gen Mustang tbh, so cannot comment on that, but can well believe that an older Ford interior is a bit shocking. I am also not much of a fan of previous gen VXR8 interiors if I am honest. And they too have a crazy handbrake I placed my order last February (only 11 months more to go!)and have opted for the only engine version to have in a Stang...
Funny thing is, after reading the article here made me chuckle "it won't draw customers from their TT's"...
The wife agreed it was time to change her beloved TT next year.. Guess what its going to grow up in to
Funny thing is, after reading the article here made me chuckle "it won't draw customers from their TT's"...
The wife agreed it was time to change her beloved TT next year.. Guess what its going to grow up in to
R8VXF said:
xRIEx said:
Conversely, I find that interior a massive improvement on the previous gen Mustang (which would have me instantly closing adverts when I browsed them in the classifieds).
Haven't looked at the interior of the previous gen Mustang tbh, so cannot comment on that, but can well believe that an older Ford interior is a bit shocking. I am also not much of a fan of previous gen VXR8 interiors if I am honest. And they too have a crazy handbrake Coatesy351 said:
I think after an initial flurry of sales it will sell slowly. Its too impractical compared to the outgoing xr6 xr8 falcons and Ss /hsv commodores.
Depends how many people bought the Falcon/Commadore for the performance or because they wanted a four door saloon/sedan with that performance.If there are only two/three adults or two adults and a child the Mustang is perfectly practical, for instance the boot on the outgoing one (coupe) is pretty big, mine swallowed the following:
x3 Air rifle bags
Styrup pump for the above
x2 large holdals
x2 large camera cases (other shooting junk)
x2 boot bags (with boots in fyi)
x6 standard shopping bags of groceries
x2 rucksacks (full)
And probably a few other bits I have forgotten about, the only things that were inside the car were my mate, me and a couple of jackets. Unless you have a family with adult sized children there is nothing impractical about it, the long doors in tight car parks are the only gipe I have, but thats the same on any large 2/3 door car.
On the subject of MPG, the V8 really shouldn't be too bad. I have driven an LS1 engined '99 Z28 Camaro auto to the last two Sunday Services and got mid-twenties to the gallon, and I was NOT driving particularly economically. My car is 16 years old, surely the eco-tech crap has come on a bit since then.
Does anyone else think that selling them as mainstream RHD models will water down the whole Mustang image/ethos/whatever?
Does anyone else think that selling them as mainstream RHD models will water down the whole Mustang image/ethos/whatever?
Edited by BNC47 on Tuesday 12th May 13:09
R8VXF said:
I really do prefer the lines of the previous generation mustang to this. Also, really not certain on the interior from the photos if I am honest. Compare this:
to the VXR8:
Nothing wrong with the VXR dash, but it doesn't look all that different to what you might find in a load of other saloons of a similar size (obviously with a few nice extras like the dials by the gearlever etc). I presume the Mustang dash is meant to be influenced by the look of earlier models, such as this:to the VXR8:
They're perfectly decent places to sit (I had a convertible on hire in the US recently, and also popped into a Ford dealer to try a similarly-specced one to the car I have on order), particularly when you bear in mind it's a £33k car. The V8 in the front is the more important aspect I've bought the Mustang because it's fun - the reviews appear to be saying it's exactly this. Which is also why I love the fact it does this at night too (not permanently!) - probably horrifically tacky to some, but it entertained me
david_b said:
Nothing wrong with the VXR dash, but it doesn't look all that different to what you might find in a load of other saloons of a similar size (obviously with a few nice extras like the dials by the gearlever etc). I presume the Mustang dash is meant to be influenced by the look of earlier models, such as this:
You raise a valid point, but to me the new version just looks cluttered. Fair comment on the VXR interior.david_b said:
They're perfectly decent places to sit (I had a convertible on hire in the US recently, and also popped into a Ford dealer to try a similarly-specced one to the car I have on order), particularly when you bear in mind it's a £33k car. The V8 in the front is the more important aspect I've bought the Mustang because it's fun - the reviews appear to be saying it's exactly this. Which is also why I love the fact it does this at night too (not permanently!) - probably horrifically tacky to some, but it entertained me
Oooh, I like that, wonder if I can retrofit something similar in mine...Its amazing really, how many cars that have big power like this now, 420 bhp is still a lot, dont get me wrong, but it is seen as acceptable, par for the course nowadays, remember when the Lotus Carlton appeared with 375 bhp, remember having to re-read that a few times to let it sink in, and weight wise there isnt as much in it as I thought, for the time the Carlton was quite heavy at 1655 kilos, the Mustang is listed as 1680.
So, for 35 grand we can have a 420 bhp car, back then (91) the Carlton was 48 grand, equivalent of nearer 100k now. The average bloke couldn't stretch to an LC back then, but the V8 Mustang is pretty attainable for a lot more people.
Add in all the 300 bhp mega hatches, I think we have it pretty good now.
So, for 35 grand we can have a 420 bhp car, back then (91) the Carlton was 48 grand, equivalent of nearer 100k now. The average bloke couldn't stretch to an LC back then, but the V8 Mustang is pretty attainable for a lot more people.
Add in all the 300 bhp mega hatches, I think we have it pretty good now.
PanzerCommander said:
Coatesy351 said:
I think after an initial flurry of sales it will sell slowly. Its too impractical compared to the outgoing xr6 xr8 falcons and Ss /hsv commodores.
Depends how many people bought the Falcon/Commadore for the performance or because they wanted a four door saloon/sedan with that performance.If there are only two/three adults or two adults and a child the Mustang is perfectly practical, for instance the boot on the outgoing one (coupe) is pretty big, mine swallowed the following:
x3 Air rifle bags
Styrup pump for the above
x2 large holdals
x2 large camera cases (other shooting junk)
x2 boot bags (with boots in fyi)
x6 standard shopping bags of groceries
x2 rucksacks (full)
And probably a few other bits I have forgotten about, the only things that were inside the car were my mate, me and a couple of jackets. Unless you have a family with adult sized children there is nothing impractical about it, the long doors in tight car parks are the only gipe I have, but thats the same on any large 2/3 door car.
Ford decide to bring an iconic car, with an optional V8 no less, to the uk 'properly' with RHD for the first time - and! - for what is effectively 10p and people on here still find holes to pick with it?
Baffling. Even if you don't like the car, a V8 of this level on sale in the UK, from a mainstream manufacturer for the price it is must surely be acknowledged as a nod to the enthusiast. It doesn't happen often.
I just hope Ford don't mess up the aftersales like Vauxhall did with the Monaro (and VXR8). But I suspect the mustang will shift more units then Vauxhall managed across both the Mustang engine guises.
My hat is off to Ford.
Baffling. Even if you don't like the car, a V8 of this level on sale in the UK, from a mainstream manufacturer for the price it is must surely be acknowledged as a nod to the enthusiast. It doesn't happen often.
I just hope Ford don't mess up the aftersales like Vauxhall did with the Monaro (and VXR8). But I suspect the mustang will shift more units then Vauxhall managed across both the Mustang engine guises.
My hat is off to Ford.
Coatesy351 said:
Well the holden coupe/monaro was a small seller i can't see this being any different. You see plenty of the sedans towing trailers, jet ski's etc , can you get a towbar for the mustang? I wouldn't want to be in the back of one for anything but a short journey.
Eh?!1200 pre-orders for a car that won't arrive in the UK till October at the earliest, most of those 1200 haven't even seen one in the flesh, have no confirmation of the exact final spec regarding extra gauges/strut brace etc, and you think it's not going to sell? Er.......
Coatesy351 said:
Well the holden coupe/monaro was a small seller i can't see this being any different. You see plenty of the sedans towing trailers, jet ski's etc , can you get a towbar for the mustang? I wouldn't want to be in the back of one for anything but a short journey.
You can buy tow bar kits for the 2005-2009 cars here they come without the tow ball so you can easily fit a EU/UK one. I looked into it for the purposes of pulling a small trailer with my race wheels and tyres in as they are the only bits of kit that I can't get in the car.I often do 2hr + trips with at least one person in the back (generally the shorter one gets to go in the back), four people would be a push because as I am 6' 2" the leg room behind me isn't generous. The only real issue for taller people in the back is the headroom as the rear window has a long shallow slope.
Edited by PanzerCommander on Tuesday 12th May 14:44
Exactly my point in aus lots of people have things that need towing so they buy a v8 sedan ute of a 4wd, The number of people who will buy this in Australia will be small. I also think a performance sedan would be more acceptable to the wife than a 2 door coupe. We don't have a large population either and people hang on to there cars longer so once the initial excitement dies down they will be a small seller.
eztiger said:
Ford decide to bring an iconic car, with an optional V8 no less, to the uk 'properly' with RHD for the first time - and! - for what is effectively 10p and people on here still find holes to pick with it?
Baffling.
It's endemic on PH, as soon as something is announced or released it has to be derided; I wonder if those individuals feel it projects an air of expertise by them pointing out something that huge multinational corporations failed to spot, and they predict that stock prices will now crash and the company is going to go bust in the next two years, whether it be Ford, Lotus, BMW, Jaguar etc. etc.Baffling.
A depressing amount of negativity.
Centurion07 said:
Coatesy351 said:
Well the holden coupe/monaro was a small seller i can't see this being any different. You see plenty of the sedans towing trailers, jet ski's etc , can you get a towbar for the mustang? I wouldn't want to be in the back of one for anything but a short journey.
Eh?!1200 pre-orders for a car that won't arrive in the UK till October at the earliest, most of those 1200 haven't even seen one in the flesh, have no confirmation of the exact final spec regarding extra gauges/strut brace etc, and you think it's not going to sell? Er.......
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