The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread
Discussion
jke11y said:
I reckon I might have made it onto some angry biker-style helmet cam compilation this morning. 5mph in traffic, I switched lanes and there was a biker in my blindspot who I saw before moving; genuinely nowhere near him, then could hear him F'ing and blinding at me. A complete non-event, made into an event purely because he had a camera strapped to his bonce.
there are some right pricks on bikes and cycles, I ride most days to work on my road bikeabout a month ago I over took one in my car with my broken specialized allez in the back, gave him loads of room.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4397373,-2.24842...
must have been 2/3's of a lane width I gave him, I had the windows down, just as I go past I hear loads of swearing and gesturing aimed at me, what a prick.
Funk said:
A bit off-topic but not worth creating a new thread for really and I suppose it's relevant to the conversation of cyclist visibility... Also: my thread so nurr.
Rear with both lights:
I like the laser thing because....well...frickin' lasers. Also because anything that makes me more visibile is good. I'm not sure how visible the lasers actually are from behind, I'd need to get someone else to ride it. I'd suspect that under street lights they're probably almost invisible but on a dark road they might show up. I really have two lights to ensure that if a battery goes I at least have something showing.
For the sake of a few quid it's well worth it.
If you put 100 watt lamps in the landing, you won't need all that stuff on your bike to get around Rear with both lights:
I like the laser thing because....well...frickin' lasers. Also because anything that makes me more visibile is good. I'm not sure how visible the lasers actually are from behind, I'd need to get someone else to ride it. I'd suspect that under street lights they're probably almost invisible but on a dark road they might show up. I really have two lights to ensure that if a battery goes I at least have something showing.
For the sake of a few quid it's well worth it.
Edited by Funk on Tuesday 1st September 21:56
Edited by Vipers on Wednesday 2nd September 10:56
funkyrobot said:
Funk said:
Interesting light stuff
Do you have links for the lights? I like the one with the beams on the ground.I've got a fairly new bike and need to sort out some lights.
Sorry for thread derailment.
jke11y said:
I reckon I might have made it onto some angry biker-style helmet cam compilation this morning. 5mph in traffic, I switched lanes and there was a biker in my blindspot who I saw before moving; genuinely nowhere near him, then could hear him F'ing and blinding at me. A complete non-event, made into an event purely because he had a camera strapped to his bonce.
If he was in your blindspot then by definition you were not "genuinely nowhere near him". 
Centurion07 said:
If he was in your blindspot then by definition you were not "genuinely nowhere near him".
Sigh. I am talking about crawling in traffic, not switching lanes at 70mph on a motorway. There was zero threat to his life or inconvenience to him, and my point stands; shouting abuse at someone who has done nothing wrong just because you are wearing a camera is the real issue here and is prevalent in so many of these videos.jke11y said:
Centurion07 said:
If he was in your blindspot then by definition you were not "genuinely nowhere near him".
Sigh. I am talking about crawling in traffic, not switching lanes at 70mph on a motorway. There was zero threat to his life or inconvenience to him, and my point stands; shouting abuse at someone who has done nothing wrong just because you are wearing a camera is the real issue here and is prevalent in so many of these videos.Keyword here is indicator because that's what it is, not a right-of-way-giver, as it sounds from your description, that you treat it as.
Centurion07 said:
Well, from the description you gave, his bike was at least in part, if not wholly, alongside you and yet you still moved across on him. Regardless of the speed, if that was the case, then you should've stayed put with your indicator on until there was an actual gap for you to move into.
Keyword here is indicator because that's what it is, not a right-of-way-giver, as it sounds from your description, that you treat it as.
Sounds to me like the bike put himself far to close to be safe and was luckily spotted due to a very safe motorist doing a last check before moving over.Keyword here is indicator because that's what it is, not a right-of-way-giver, as it sounds from your description, that you treat it as.
Also sounds like the biker is far to angry to own a licence.
jke11y said:
I reckon I might have made it onto some angry biker-style helmet cam compilation this morning. 5mph in traffic, I switched lanes and there was a biker in my blindspot who I saw before moving; genuinely nowhere near him, then could hear him F'ing and blinding at me. A complete non-event, made into an event purely because he had a camera strapped to his bonce.
Type your car reg into youtube in a few weeks and you'll know as they love to put them in the video description. My van reg actually features on youtube in a helmet cam clip showing me allegedly driving "dangerously" overtaking a bus when there was a cyclist approaching the bus from the opposite direction. Loads of room to easily get past without causing him any inconvenience whatsoever 
.NoNeed said:
Centurion07 said:
Well, from the description you gave, his bike was at least in part, if not wholly, alongside you and yet you still moved across on him. Regardless of the speed, if that was the case, then you should've stayed put with your indicator on until there was an actual gap for you to move into.
Keyword here is indicator because that's what it is, not a right-of-way-giver, as it sounds from your description, that you treat it as.
Sounds to me like the bike put himself far to close to be safe and was luckily spotted due to a very safe motorist doing a last check before moving over.Keyword here is indicator because that's what it is, not a right-of-way-giver, as it sounds from your description, that you treat it as.
Also sounds like the biker is far to angry to own a licence.
"Luckily spotted"? OP admits to seeing him BEFORE moving but instead of staying put, moved anyway. If the biker was in his blindspot then as I said, at least part of his bike was level with OP's car so OP, having admitted he knew he was there, should've stayed put.
From the description given it sounds like OP wanted to change lanes, knew the biker was in his blindspot which by definition is too close for OP to change lanes regardless of speed, but moved anyway. It smacks of "I'm indicating and I'm coming across whether you like it or not".
I'm not surprised the biker was none too pleased.
You are aware that you are arguing with people based purely on assumptions taken from dissecting a couple of sentences? Had I known people were going to minutely scrutinise every word I would have given more information.
But as it stands, you are 100% correct despite having minimal knowledge of the situation, my position on the road, the bikes position on the road, and whether or not the incident even happened at all. Internet argument points to you.
But as it stands, you are 100% correct despite having minimal knowledge of the situation, my position on the road, the bikes position on the road, and whether or not the incident even happened at all. Internet argument points to you.
Edited by jke11y on Wednesday 2nd September 13:02
Centurion07 said:
Eh? Too close to what?
"Luckily spotted"? OP admits to seeing him BEFORE moving but instead of staying put, moved anyway. If the biker was in his blindspot then as I said, at least part of his bike was level with OP's car so OP, having admitted he knew he was there, should've stayed put.
From the description given it sounds like OP wanted to change lanes, knew the biker was in his blindspot which by definition is too close for OP to change lanes regardless of speed, but moved anyway. It smacks of "I'm indicating and I'm coming across whether you like it or not".
I'm not surprised the biker was none too pleased.
Please, not this s"Luckily spotted"? OP admits to seeing him BEFORE moving but instead of staying put, moved anyway. If the biker was in his blindspot then as I said, at least part of his bike was level with OP's car so OP, having admitted he knew he was there, should've stayed put.
From the description given it sounds like OP wanted to change lanes, knew the biker was in his blindspot which by definition is too close for OP to change lanes regardless of speed, but moved anyway. It smacks of "I'm indicating and I'm coming across whether you like it or not".
I'm not surprised the biker was none too pleased.
t again 
. We had 4 pages of arguments over it only last week. Just let it go ffs.All that jazz said:
Please, not this st again . We had 4 pages of arguments over it only last week. Just let it go ffs.
I'm not arguing over the definition of a blindspot.t again . We had 4 pages of arguments over it only last week. Just let it go ffs.I'm merely pointing out matey seems to think the biker was out of order getting stressed about somebody changing lanes whilst he was alongside them.
Funk said:
Vipers said:
If you put 100 watt lamps in the landing, you won't need all that stuff on your bike to get around
Very true! 
Golden rule of course is "See and be seen". Take care out there.
TwistingMyMelon said:
funkyrobot said:
Funk said:
Interesting light stuff
Do you have links for the lights? I like the one with the beams on the ground.I've got a fairly new bike and need to sort out some lights.
Sorry for thread derailment.
Johnnytheboy said:
Centurion07 said:
I'm not arguing over the definition of a blindspot.
I'm merely pointing out matey seems to think the biker was out of order getting stressed about somebody changing lanes whilst he was alongside them.
As he was there, he may well be right. I'm merely pointing out matey seems to think the biker was out of order getting stressed about somebody changing lanes whilst he was alongside them.
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