The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

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Limpet

6,332 posts

162 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Dark85 said:
Umm....Is it just me or does the bike at 2:50 deliberately crash?
No it's not just you. If he didn't hit that car on purpose, it's some of the worst forward observation and anticipation skills I've ever witnessed.

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

156 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Limpet said:
No it's not just you. If he didn't hit that car on purpose, it's some of the worst forward observation and anticipation skills I've ever witnessed.
It's target fixation. A bike goes where you look. This is one of the 7 survival reactions (which ironically can easily lead to death!) And because of the way it happens it can be hard to snap out of.

Leads to some of the most moronic looking crashes but the rider is frozen even though they can often easily avoid.

jogger1976

1,251 posts

127 months

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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grayme

936 posts

237 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp7eY4-tdko

The car that switches lanes but gets stroppy and the blue van are special.

Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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s3fella said:
Palms said:
Maybe s3fella is a tailgater and thinks that driving 2 foot from the guy in front is ok so its ok for them to be that close to his rear?
No chance that you have never been tailgated in 28 years
Well not that I would consider 'tailgating' no. As I say, I've never been caught speeding and only had one accident, (which was just my car) in all that time also. And I've driven hundreds of thousands of miles in the UK and tens of thousand in USA,Europe and Far East.

Maybe I'm 'lucky' or maybe I just have a good sense of staying out of trouble? Maybe some people who think they're doing nothing wrong 'attract' incidents because they are a bit stter than they realise.

Btw, if your definition of tailgating is 2ft from your bumper, I'd suggest that happens to anyone very rarely indeed. Got sit in traffic with a car behind , they will rarely be that close, but look how big they are in you mirrors! Closest I've seen a vehicle to another which was a road rage incident unfolding behind me, and looked very ugly indeed on the m5, was a car stuffed up behind some young girl who'd just pulled out to l3 when car was in her blind spot. Cue angry man driving horribly close at 80mph, but as they both passed me, he was still about 2 or 3 meters behind her. Far far too close, looked scary as hell, completely ridiculous, the worst case I' and my missus have witnessed, but still a good 6 to 10 ft away.
So, what happens when you're in dense traffic with people ahead and people to the side of you and someone behind thinks tailgating you will make everything disappear? What about single track roads? What about car parks? I had someone tailgate me round a multistorey car park once, revving the engine of his beige Peugeot 205, because he could rush up to the permit holder only levels and I was looking for a space on the lower levels. I don't mess about on the roads and I rarely get tailgated. I'm not interested in the hassle and danger of conflict. Nevertheless, there have been situations such as narrow residential roads and going past schools at chucking out time when I've been tailgated, not to mention HGV drivers through 50mph average speed cameras on the motorway who'll even tailgate in the inside lane.

poo at Paul's said:
I agree on both counts, pair of muppets playing a game of one upmanship, risking other people's lives, property and livelihoods.

I'd love to see the footage from the last 10 mins, I suspect these two had been interacting for a while before. I'm wondering who the OP is overtaking to be in the outside lane away from them lights, (what happened to stay left), I suspect he's just trying not to be overtaken by the Audi.

Pair of tools.
Some people see a few seconds of footage and make up a whole story around it with no evidence to back it up just because they have the opportunity to gang up on the person who filmed it. I imagine similar scenarios could be made up around anyone's driving if a few seconds of conflict were posted on here and everyone else would pile in with the slating.

jogger1976

1,251 posts

127 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Johnnytheboy said:
Rather than posting sarcastic similes, how about actually putting up a video yourself?

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Blakewater said:
s3fella said:
Palms said:
Maybe s3fella is a tailgater and thinks that driving 2 foot from the guy in front is ok so its ok for them to be that close to his rear?
No chance that you have never been tailgated in 28 years
Well not that I would consider 'tailgating' no. As I say, I've never been caught speeding and only had one accident, (which was just my car) in all that time also. And I've driven hundreds of thousands of miles in the UK and tens of thousand in USA,Europe and Far East.

Maybe I'm 'lucky' or maybe I just have a good sense of staying out of trouble? Maybe some people who think they're doing nothing wrong 'attract' incidents because they are a bit stter than they realise.

Btw, if your definition of tailgating is 2ft from your bumper, I'd suggest that happens to anyone very rarely indeed. Got sit in traffic with a car behind , they will rarely be that close, but look how big they are in you mirrors! Closest I've seen a vehicle to another which was a road rage incident unfolding behind me, and looked very ugly indeed on the m5, was a car stuffed up behind some young girl who'd just pulled out to l3 when car was in her blind spot. Cue angry man driving horribly close at 80mph, but as they both passed me, he was still about 2 or 3 meters behind her. Far far too close, looked scary as hell, completely ridiculous, the worst case I' and my missus have witnessed, but still a good 6 to 10 ft away.
So, what happens when you're in dense traffic with people ahead and people to the side of you and someone behind thinks tailgating you will make everything disappear? What about single track roads? What about car parks? I had someone tailgate me round a multistorey car park once, revving the engine of his beige Peugeot 205, because he could rush up to the permit holder only levels and I was looking for a space on the lower levels. I don't mess about on the roads and I rarely get tailgated. I'm not interested in the hassle and danger of conflict. Nevertheless, there have been situations such as narrow residential roads and going past schools at chucking out time when I've been tailgated, not to mention HGV drivers through 50mph average speed cameras on the motorway who'll even tailgate in the inside lane.
Perhaps this is all down to what s3fella perceives as being tail-gated, as I completely agree with what you've just written. To me, someone who I deem to be tail-gating me, is someone who is dangerously close in that if I were to perform an emergency stop, they'd without a doubt hit me in the back. I drive with a safety gap to the cars in front but there is an abundance of people out there in all cars and of all stereotypes, who do not!

Also, just because someone isn't tail-gating you, doesn't mean you're not holding them up. On a single NSL road, if someone is behind you and has been for several miles, you're probably holding them up. That, or you do find some people who just like to 'latch-on' and follow the car in front without paying attention.

I was tail-gated today going around the 20mph perimeter road of our town. Very few people obey this speed limit and as such, on two separate occasions, I felt I was being tail-gated as per my description above.

If I feel someone is dangerously following closely and they've had plenty of opportunity to pass me, I will safely indicate, slow and let them past.

ShaunTheSheep

951 posts

156 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Maybe its location. Do you all live in the south east and s3fella lives further north?

I'm west of Scotland and I can relate to s3fella's posts more than the others.


Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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jogger1976 said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Rather than posting sarcastic similes, how about actually putting up a video yourself?
Be a job, I don't have a dash cam, and if I did it'd be really dull, as I don't seem to get into so many scrapes.

It wasn't sarcastic either, or a simile!

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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ShaunTheSheep said:
Maybe its location. Do you all live in the south east and s3fella lives further north?

I'm west of Scotland and I can relate to s3fella's posts more than the others.
Perhaps that's possible, but I think he said he's driven millions of miles all over the place. Could've been someone else though.

The other clips were interesting, the learner drivers ones especially so as some of the commentary is insightful into how others are being taught to interpret the road.

Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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SpeedMattersNot said:
ShaunTheSheep said:
Maybe its location. Do you all live in the south east and s3fella lives further north?

I'm west of Scotland and I can relate to s3fella's posts more than the others.
Perhaps that's possible, but I think he said he's driven millions of miles all over the place. Could've been someone else though.

The other clips were interesting, the learner drivers ones especially so as some of the commentary is insightful into how others are being taught to interpret the road.
I live in the North West.

The driving instructor in the last video once posted a clip where he refused to let a Range Rover driver merge at roadworks where the outside lane was closed, resulting in a collision between them both. After being challenged about it he seems to have deleted the video.

_dobbo_

14,404 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Blakewater said:
Dashcams, cycle cams and YouTube are often the means of revenge for the kind of people who got bullied at school.
Are you saying bring back the days when violent thugs could bully, attack or threaten people without any fear of reprisals?

Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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_dobbo_ said:
Blakewater said:
Dashcams, cycle cams and YouTube are often the means of revenge for the kind of people who got bullied at school.
Are you saying bring back the days when violent thugs could bully, attack or threaten people without any fear of reprisals?
Of course not, it's good to see people get their comeuppance when they clearly deserve it.

The problem occurs when people go too far and seek to create situations and provoke people who otherwise aren't causing anyone a problem.

Some people use thuggery as a way to feel powerful, others displays of wealth. Those who've never been able to do that but still want to feel big are using cameras and YouTube to try and show people up and get them into trouble with the police or their employers, or to just get them publicly mocked.

Take Uphillfreewheeler and the bloke who did the forward roll chasing after him. That guy was something of a tit and probably deserved a bit of public ridicule. However, the lorry driver the cyclist reported to his employer for being on the "wrong" side of the road when he swung wide to take a corner didn't deserve a power crazed cyclist berating him in public before trying to get him disciplined by his employers.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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ShaunTheSheep said:
Maybe its location. Do you all live in the south east and s3fella lives further north?

I'm west of Scotland and I can relate to s3fella's posts more than the others.
He did mention he'd been driving abroad... I have to say once you've out on the roads outside the UK, even in France say, suddenly the UK driving standards seem much better. I'm not sure if the middle east or south american drivers are the best/worse... hehe



simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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ORD said:
simoid said:
That's not the only way to stop them. In fact, it's a good way to wind someone up. The way to end the tailgating would be pulling over when possible instead of actively trying to change someone else's driving.

/holierthanthou smile
Fair point. I would do that if the person was bonkers or getting wound up. Most people tailgate without even knowing they are doing it. And they then get grumpy because driving like that is really stressful. So much better to be able to around the car in front so that nothing comes as a surprise.
Yeah I know what you mean. I think some people passively tailgate/just get used to being in a queue of cars, and don't realise what effect they're having.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

167 months

Sunday 4th October 2015
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Talking is boring...

Heres a video of a stripper getting road rage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=101&v=9hZmiy5R...

The Wookie

13,972 posts

229 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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legless said:
And I've been tailgated before even when there IS somewhere for them to go.

Memorably, one quiet evening on the M6 Toll when I was sat in L1 on cruise at 70mph. No other traffic around to be seen. I became aware of a car slowly gaining on me in L1 in the distance. Over the course of the next few miles it slowly caught up to the point where it was behind me.

It was then that the driver of this Q5 decided that it was far too much effort to move to L2 to pass, and instead spent the next 3-4 miles following my Touareg so closely that I couldn't see his front plate in my mirror.

Eventually, I got so fed up of this that I knocked the cruise control off to encourage him to pass. I'd coasted down to 45mph before he eventually got the hint, pulled out and tore off into the distance.

Utterly baffling. There was no other traffic around, and I'd not encountered him earlier in the journey either.
May have been an umarked car, I've seen a dark blue Q5 knocking about the M42/M6 Toll Junction before

_dobbo_

14,404 posts

249 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Blakewater said:
_dobbo_ said:
Blakewater said:
Dashcams, cycle cams and YouTube are often the means of revenge for the kind of people who got bullied at school.
Are you saying bring back the days when violent thugs could bully, attack or threaten people without any fear of reprisals?
Stuff
OK cool, sorry for the question I just thought your comment could be read two ways and one of them was unpleasant. I see I was wrong, apologies.

beer

podwin

652 posts

203 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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https://youtu.be/cYgF9E2-Fqs

Sums up the cyclist / driver videos in a funny way.
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