The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

[All that jazz]

bairn7 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4i7KH1zf_4

Worth waiting till the end.

So in summary :

- Fiesta happily driving along straddling both lanes to avoid parked vehicles and has to move over a bit more on a couple of occasions due to bad parking.
- Biker objects to his racetrack being blocked by a pesky car driving minion who is doing nothing wrong and decides to confront the Fiesta driver, because dashcam and youtube.
- Fiesta driver quite rightly is having none of it so boots it out of the situation.
- Biker rounds up his mates and tries to bring Fiesta to a stop in the middle of a dual carriageway in the dark to continue confrontation.
- Fiesta driver manages to escape and tries to lose them, probably wondering WTF he's done wrong and stting himself.
- Bikers catch up and one of them smacks the driver through the partially open window.
- Biker kicks off the wing mirror but fails dismally trying to edit it out of the footage.
- Fiesta driver loses his cool over mirror and being attacked so reverses over them all.

Struggling to have any sympathy for the biker(s) here.

[C.A.R.]

If anything, felt a great deal of satisfaction when the Fiesta reversed and the bike went crunch.

Hopefully wrecked the bike.

[hornetrider]

All that jazz said:

So in summary :

- Fiesta happily driving along straddling both lanes to avoid parked vehicles and has to move over a bit more on a couple of occasions due to bad parking.
- Biker objects to his racetrack being blocked by a pesky car driving minion who is doing nothing wrong and decides to confront the Fiesta driver, because dashcam and youtube.
- Fiesta driver quite rightly is having none of it so boots it out of the situation.
- Biker rounds up his mates and tries to bring Fiesta to a stop in the middle of a dual carriageway in the dark to continue confrontation.
- Fiesta driver manages to escape and tries to lose them, probably wondering WTF he's done wrong and stting himself.
- Bikers catch up and one of them smacks the driver through the partially open window.
- Biker kicks off the wing mirror but fails dismally trying to edit it out of the footage.
- Fiesta driver loses his cool over mirror and being attacked so reverses over them all.

Struggling to have any sympathy for the biker(s) here.

Tend to agree. All I would say is we don't know what happened beforehand, although if it reflected badly on the car driver it would probably be on the video.

Edit: rewatched it, yes I'd totally agree. Bikers are wkers.

[ManFromDelmonte]

Kicking someones wing mirror off is moronic but doesn't deserve a full bore reverse ram. They're all horrible s.

[Janesy B]

Kicking mirrors off, hitting the driver and trying to get in the car... they got what they deserved. They looked for trouble, and got it.

[Munter]

Bikers try to intimidate driver. Succeed. Driver responds with about the only option left to them.

My sympathy for the bikers is quite low.

[SpeedMattersNot]

saaby93 said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

This kind of incident is waiting to happen when pulling into my parents in laws driveway. There is often cars parked on the left, that you go around, before slowing down and indicating right. But as you pull back into the left lane to get the right angle to enable you to pull into their drive, people try and overtake you, despite indicating right.

It sounds like if there was an accident in such a situation, you'd blame me. But I think it is other peoples impatience that is causing it, not mine.

well yes - especially if you know it's likely to happen
If they're coming past let them get on with it and you can turn in when they're gone.
Ok they may have mistaken what you're about to do but no point making a meal out of it
As quoted previously in the HC if you can avoid an incident you should.

I have to disagree, if two inexperienced drivers collide with the scenario described above, I can't accept that it's the person in front, performing the legitimate manoeuvre with correct signalling fault for someone else's impatience. Whilst I do wait to see what the car behind me does, I feel this is because I am experienced.

You keep stating that you should always avoid an incident if you can and this is common sense. But I don't see how that somehow reverses the blame should there be an accident!

For example, if I go to pull out onto a roundabout but someone doesn't indicate they're coming all the way around and I have to stop, I check my mirrors to make sure the guy behind me doesn't crash into me. A couple of times this has saved me from being rear-ended. Just because I can avoid being hit up the rear, doesn't make it my fault if I am hit whilst stationary, but I would imagine you'd also consider this my fault.

[WCZ]

Munter said:

My sympathy for the bikers is quite low.

+1

[Pete317]

SpeedMattersNot said:

saaby93 said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

This kind of incident is waiting to happen when pulling into my parents in laws driveway. There is often cars parked on the left, that you go around, before slowing down and indicating right. But as you pull back into the left lane to get the right angle to enable you to pull into their drive, people try and overtake you, despite indicating right.

It sounds like if there was an accident in such a situation, you'd blame me. But I think it is other peoples impatience that is causing it, not mine.

well yes - especially if you know it's likely to happen
If they're coming past let them get on with it and you can turn in when they're gone.
Ok they may have mistaken what you're about to do but no point making a meal out of it
As quoted previously in the HC if you can avoid an incident you should.

I have to disagree, if two inexperienced drivers collide with the scenario described above, I can't accept that it's the person in front, performing the legitimate manoeuvre with correct signalling fault for someone else's impatience. Whilst I do wait to see what the car behind me does, I feel this is because I am experienced.

You keep stating that you should always avoid an incident if you can and this is common sense. But I don't see how that somehow reverses the blame should there be an accident!

For example, if I go to pull out onto a roundabout but someone doesn't indicate they're coming all the way around and I have to stop, I check my mirrors to make sure the guy behind me doesn't crash into me. A couple of times this has saved me from being rear-ended. Just because I can avoid being hit up the rear, doesn't make it my fault if I am hit whilst stationary, but I would imagine you'd also consider this my fault.

It's of little use to be in the right, but dead

[g3org3y]

WCZ said:

Munter said:

My sympathy for the bikers is quite low.

+1

+2

[ShaunTheSheep]

All that jazz said:

So in summary :

- Fiesta happily driving along straddling both lanes to avoid parked vehicles and has to move over a bit more on a couple of occasions due to bad parking.
- Biker objects to his racetrack being blocked by a pesky car driving minion who is doing nothing wrong and decides to confront the Fiesta driver, because dashcam and youtube.
- Fiesta driver quite rightly is having none of it so boots it out of the situation.
- Biker rounds up his mates and tries to bring Fiesta to a stop in the middle of a dual carriageway in the dark to continue confrontation.
- Fiesta driver manages to escape and tries to lose them, probably wondering WTF he's done wrong and stting himself.
- Bikers catch up and one of them smacks the driver through the partially open window.
- Biker kicks off the wing mirror but fails dismally trying to edit it out of the footage.
- Fiesta driver loses his cool over mirror and being attacked so reverses over them all.

Struggling to have any sympathy for the biker(s) here.

Those bikers were morons.

The straddling lanes thing is poor form but not quite a hanging offence. Should have just fully changed lanes though.

[SuperchargedVR6]

I don't know why bikers put their lives at risk like that. Big metal box with a psycho at the wheel vs little bike and vulnerable rider. It will never work out well for the biker.

[skip_1]

I feel sorry for the innocent car driver behind the bikes at the lights that got caught up in it. Nobody else.

Edited by skip_1 on Thursday 15th October 20:27

[ORD]

I have no sympathy for anyone - driver, biker, whatever - once they gang up and try to attack people. Not to say the car driver's actions were sensible or even sane, but there is no way I would have stopped and let those cretins attack me and my passengers!

[Blakewater]

SuperchargedVR6 said:

I don't know why bikers put their lives at risk like that. Big metal box with a psycho at the wheel vs little bike and vulnerable rider. It will never work out well for the biker.

The bikers were the ones behaving like psychos. The Fiesta driver was scared by them chasing after him and attacking him and his partner and he reacted to stop them chasing after him further. If you behave like the bikers did towards someone, don't cry about it when he reacts in a fairly extreme way as his adrenaline is pumping and the fight or flight instinct has fully kicked in.

[Stickyfinger]

bairn7 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4i7KH1zf_4

Worth waiting till the end.

At that speed....it could be attempted murder in the UK

[Negative Creep]

Not a dashcam, but seems a good place to leave this

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a...

American woman decides to livestream herself getting drunk and then driving home, gets arrested.

[grayme]

https://youtu.be/BpbzH0bP4Ug?t=30s

[jonnM]

Burwood said:

lol quality classic Aussie one liners at 6.18. That accent

You'll love this then!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jePykfVIM4

[saaby93]

SpeedMattersNot said:

saaby93 said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

This kind of incident is waiting to happen when pulling into my parents in laws driveway. There is often cars parked on the left, that you go around, before slowing down and indicating right. But as you pull back into the left lane to get the right angle to enable you to pull into their drive, people try and overtake you, despite indicating right.

It sounds like if there was an accident in such a situation, you'd blame me. But I think it is other peoples impatience that is causing it, not mine.

well yes - especially if you know it's likely to happen
If they're coming past let them get on with it and you can turn in when they're gone.
Ok they may have mistaken what you're about to do but no point making a meal out of it
As quoted previously in the HC if you can avoid an incident you should.

I have to disagree, if two inexperienced drivers collide with the scenario described above, I can't accept that it's the person in front, performing the legitimate manoeuvre with correct signalling fault for someone else's impatience. Whilst I do wait to see what the car behind me does, I feel this is because I am experienced.

You keep stating that you should always avoid an incident if you can and this is common sense. But I don't see how that somehow reverses the blame should there be an accident!

There's no reversing the blame going on, it's asking what led to the accident, who could have avoided it and did they. If they can see what they're doing is likely to lead to a collision and they choose to carry on they could if necessary face driving without due care. Usually the pain of going through insurance is enough to make them think better next time, but its better to avoid it happening the first time.

ETA Dont forget signalling doesnt just mean indicators. There are many ways one road user can signal their intention to another. Road positioning carries a large amount of signal. Misleading signalling can be more dangerous than no signals. Dont get me started about people who use their hazards when driving along, then change it to one side signalling and expect the world to notice the subtle difference

Edited by saaby93 on Thursday 15th October 21:46