The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

[Fugazi]

jonnM said:

You'll love this then!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jePykfVIM4

That's one angry Antipodean!!

[SpeedMattersNot]

Pete317 said:

It's of little use to be in the right, but dead

Which I am not disputing.

saaby93 said:

here's no reversing the blame going on, it's asking what led to the accident, who could have avoided it and did they. If they can see what they're doing is likely to lead to a collision and they choose to carry on they could if necessary face driving without due care. Usually the pain of going through insurance is enough to make them think better next time, but its better to avoid it happening the first time.

ETA Dont forget signalling doesnt just mean indicators. There are many ways one road user can signal their intention to another. Road positioning carries a large amount of signal. Misleading signalling can be more dangerous than no signals. Dont get me started about people who use their hazards when driving along, then change it to one side signalling and expect the world to notice the subtle difference

Edited by saaby93 on Thursday 15th October 21:46

Your stance of accountability is different to mine, that or I am not explaining myself clearly enough (most likely). Let's agree to disagree for the sake of the thread

[S93]

jonnM said:

You'll love this then!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jePykfVIM4

This guy vs our lad Ronnie Pickering going at it would be something i'd pay to watch

[lost in espace]

Biker overtaking around traffic islands x2, right outside a school. When we reached the bottom of the road I think he had saved about 10 seconds off his journey as I caught him up. Whilst he could clearly see most of the road, you still have to ride with a degree of caution, especially as he had a pillion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f35VGgKHM9c

[hornetrider]

lost in espace said:

Biker overtaking around traffic islands x2, right outside a school. When we reached the bottom of the road I think he had saved about 10 seconds off his journey as I caught him up. Whilst he could clearly see most of the road, you still have to ride with a degree of caution, especially as he had a pillion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f35VGgKHM9c

First one was dangerous, second one was pointless. What a twunt.

[mattlad]

hornetrider said:

lost in espace said:

Biker overtaking around traffic islands x2, right outside a school. When we reached the bottom of the road I think he had saved about 10 seconds off his journey as I caught him up. Whilst he could clearly see most of the road, you still have to ride with a degree of caution, especially as he had a pillion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f35VGgKHM9c

First one was dangerous, second one was pointless. What a twunt.

Friend of mine got done for riding the wrong side of a bollard......

[Martin350]

What were they charged with, out of interest?

[simoid]

SpeedMattersNot said:

This kind of incident is waiting to happen when pulling into my parents in laws driveway. There is often cars parked on the left, that you go around, before slowing down and indicating right. But as you pull back into the left lane to get the right angle to enable you to pull into their drive, people try and overtake you, despite indicating right.

It sounds like if there was an accident in such a situation, you'd blame me. But I think it is other peoples impatience that is causing it, not mine.

Question: do you think you can turn into your parents' drive with impunity?

I'm fairly sure you can't just go around pulling out on people as they're overtaking

It takes two to tango and make a crash in most cases: poor judgement (and driving) to overtake someone who is indicating right, and poor judgement (and driving) to fail to spot someone overtaking you if you're making a manouevre.


Read after considering the above:

Would you have the same opinion if it was an emergency vehicle overtaking you? Shouldn't you "give way" to anyone who is overtaking you, blue light or not? Blue lights do not absolve responsibility for dangerous driving.

Edited by simoid on Friday 16th October 12:36

Edited by simoid on Friday 16th October 12:36

[Funk]

Martin350 said:

What were they charged with, out of interest?

I'd imagine TS50 'failing to conform to a traffic sign': http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_of...

Endorsable offence (3 points).

[simoid]

Blakewater said:

SuperchargedVR6 said:

I don't know why bikers put their lives at risk like that. Big metal box with a psycho at the wheel vs little bike and vulnerable rider. It will never work out well for the biker.

The bikers were the ones behaving like psychos. The Fiesta driver was scared by them chasing after him and attacking him and his partner and he reacted to stop them chasing after him further. If you behave like the bikers did towards someone, don't cry about it when he reacts in a fairly extreme way as his adrenaline is pumping and the fight or flight instinct has fully kicked in.

I think we have to bear in mind that this in Russia or similar, where murder rates are higher and folk are generally a bit more mental. We don't really know if calling the police would be a sensible option like it was here. It's probably akin to being threatened by a group of bikers in the UK but many miles from any possible help. In that situation, if you fear for your life, I'd say you're justified to use your car as a weapon.

[jhfozzy]

Martin350 said:

What were they charged with, out of interest?

Probably contravening keep left bollards. Non endorsable £100 fine as far as I know.

See number 10 on the dirty dozen list.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/11472113/...

[mattlad]

Martin350 said:

What were they charged with, out of interest?

Can't remember. We were in our teens at the time. We are now, ahem, a bit older than our teens now!

[evil len]

jhfozzy said:

Probably contravening keep left bollards. Non endorsable £100 fine as far as I know.

See number 10 on the dirty dozen list.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/11472113/...

Sod number 10, I want to know more details about number 4 !

[DS240]

Funk said:

Martin350 said:

What were they charged with, out of interest?

I'd imagine TS50 'failing to conform to a traffic sign': http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/road_traffic_of...

Endorsable offence (3 points).

Spot on.

The blue sign on the bollard is an instruction.

[Sushifiend]

evil len said:

jhfozzy said:

Probably contravening keep left bollards. Non endorsable £100 fine as far as I know.

See number 10 on the dirty dozen list.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/11472113/...

Sod number 10, I want to know more details about number 4 !

Beat me to it Len!

Actually I was once stopped by plod for going around the outside of the keep left bollards on the A30 coming from WIndlesham towards Sunningdale. This was back in the day when it was a 60MPH limit and the guy in front of me had been doing 40. I went for an overtake , and then the guy I was overtaking booted it preventing me from dropping back in to the left side of the road. The guy behind me, presumably also wanting to overtake the slowcoach, had closed the gap I had just left, so I had nowhere to go. I was forced to floor it around the bollards, which is when plod in a meatwagon by the side of the road 200 yards further up pointed at me and signalled me to pull over.

At first Mr. Policeman wasn't very impressed with my manoeuvre. When I explained why I had been forced to go around the keep left bollard, he said he couldn't see what else I might have done and let me on my merry way.

[SS2.]

On its own, contravening a blue keep left arrow isn't endorseable - a ticking off or a fine, yes. But points, no.

[thetrash]

Stickyfinger said:

bairn7 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4i7KH1zf_4

Worth waiting till the end.

At that speed....it could be attempted murder in the UK

No it couldn't. Are the Fiesta drivers actions proportionate to the threat? Yes.

[Stickyfinger]

thetrash said:

No it couldn't. Are the Fiesta drivers actions proportionate to the threat? Yes.

Your a Judge are you ? that's good to know.

[saaby93]

DS240 said:

Spot on.

The blue sign on the bollard is an instruction.

Blue signs give most trouble
You come up to a cross roads with a blue straight on arrow ahead, are you allowed to turn left or right?
If you come up to a cross roads with no right turn and no left turn red circle signs at least you know what you cant do and can be punished for it. The road with the blue arrow will have a red circle no entry the other end - it tells you what you cant do.
The bollard with the blue arrow one side if there's a bus or something parked there or anything else in the way, are you sure you cant go the other side of the bollard if it's clear?

Blues signs with a bus are the worst. ok buses go that way, what about anyone else? red circle no vehicles except buses are more useful

[thetrash]

Stickyfinger said:

thetrash said:

No it couldn't. Are the Fiesta drivers actions proportionate to the threat? Yes.

Your a Judge are you ? that's good to know.

Is that meant to add anything?