The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

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GTIAlex

1,935 posts

167 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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FreeLitres said:
JM said:
zedx19 said:
Must get in L2 as quickly as possible, without checking...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI1Zv87szLU
What's with the rear lights, NS looks like some 'chavy aftermarket tat' OS looks normal.
He just bounced that corner of the car off the barrier so all the coloured cover has gone. Before the crash, both sides looked normal.
Sometimes I wonder whether people even bother to watch the videos before commenting.

moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Ghibli said:
It looked to me that he locked his back brake up which made him go to the left ?

To fast, wet slippery road = accident.
This. He was a fk wit. Use the front. The rears for pulling skids infront of girls.

This Is the difference with cyclists

A car driver sees a pedestrian and anticipates to need to stop.

A cyclists continues as normal

Pete317

1,430 posts

223 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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KrazyIvan said:
GreatGranny said:
Bit of an error?

He didn't look!

Cyclist was all over the road because that's what you do when you have to brake hard to avoid a pedestrian who doesn't look.
Avoiding the pedestrian, your having a giraffe, only thing he was avoiding was slowing down for the bus in his way.
It looks like had it not been for the pedestrian, that the cyclist might have ridden into the back of the bus.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

187 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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How dare you suggest a cyclist should slow down.

Vipers

32,896 posts

229 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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Pete317 said:
I never suggested otherwise.

But the more the people that take care, the greater the chance that at least one party is going to be taking care when it matters.


Edited by Pete317 on Thursday 26th November 19:07
May have come across wrong, not implying you did say otherwise, just adding what the papers said. beer




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grayme

936 posts

237 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
This. He was a fk wit. Use the front. The rears for pulling skids infront of girls.

This Is the difference with cyclists

A car driver sees a pedestrian and anticipates to need to stop.

A cyclists continues as normal
Ramming on the front breaks can mean you end up sliding anywhere or going over the handlebars.

Pedestrians are a law unto themselves. They get upset (quite rightly) when cyclists and cars go through red lights, yet the red man doesn't apply to them.

A while back turning left up the road between Kings Cross and St Pancras, one particularly gobby ped was berating cyclists not signalling left, oblivious to the fact he was walking through on red.

T0MMY

1,559 posts

177 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
This. He was a fk wit. Use the front. The rears for pulling skids infront of girls.

This Is the difference with cyclists

A car driver sees a pedestrian and anticipates to need to stop.

A cyclists continues as normal
He quite possibly used both. I'm almost scared to say this on here for fear of a lynching but I used to work as a cycle courier in Edinburgh so have done my fair share of emergency stops and evasions of meandering tourists and u-turning taxis. A full on emergency stop using both brakes, assuming you don't actually lock the front would tend to result in the rear coming round, same as on a motorbike as it will just lock up. In fact I wouldn't even use the back brake on a motorbike in the dry for an emergency stop as the rear wheel is pretty much off the ground anyway.

TonyRPH

12,977 posts

169 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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kev1974 said:
Another cyclist one from the media today - this time hitting a pedestrian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UB_4OjXz8o

Yep a bit of an error by the pedestrian there but the cyclist seems a bit all over the road all the same. Also, regardless of fault, he has hit a pedestrian, so isn't that a reportable incident where police must be informed, so he will need the pedestrian's details (who he could have checked to see was alright or not anyway)? Instead he seems more concerned with putting his headphones back in and continuing on his way!
The cyclist needed to get around the bus (I would have thought) so why steer left after apparently committing to passing the bus on the right?

Also, I thought the cyclist looked to be going too fast for the conditions anyway.

Looking again, it looks as though he panic braked on seeing the pedestrian, when it looks as though the cyclist could have just gone around him, overtaking the bus at the same time.

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
I think before that should come basic looking-where-you-are-going. If you don't look where you are going you will hit something, fact. And arguing after the fact whether that something should have been there or not is rather pointless imo.

That driver must have been near blind to not see that cyclist, and pretty dumb to not know he'll be there given that countless must have passed him in the same manner already.

But no doubt he's out there now, dumb and near-blind, at the wheel of a two-tonne vehicle. Fantastic.
And the rider doing the filming is still attempting gaps (blindly following the other guy?) even when an indicator is visible. Fantastic.

pingu393

7,823 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th November 2015
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
Youtube scan all their videos for copyright material and give you the option to remove it. If you choose to keep it, adverts will automatically be added and the money raised will go to the copyright owner, not you. So, Mr Zappa will be quite happy leaving his tunes on the vid.

Some Gump

12,705 posts

187 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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jogger1976 said:
I believe this is our beloved Uphillfreewheeler. rolleyes
9 billion chemicals out there ready to abuse, and this bloke chooses desiccants?

moanthebairns

17,946 posts

199 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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T0MMY said:
moanthebairns said:
This. He was a fk wit. Use the front. The rears for pulling skids infront of girls.

This Is the difference with cyclists

A car driver sees a pedestrian and anticipates to need to stop.

A cyclists continues as normal
He quite possibly used both. I'm almost scared to say this on here for fear of a lynching but I used to work as a cycle courier in Edinburgh so have done my fair share of emergency stops and evasions of meandering tourists and u-turning taxis. A full on emergency stop using both brakes, assuming you don't actually lock the front would tend to result in the rear coming round, same as on a motorbike as it will just lock up. In fact I wouldn't even use the back brake on a motorbike in the dry for an emergency stop as the rear wheel is pretty much off the ground anyway.
a decent avid v-brake or similar will stop that bike on a 50 piece, he's grabbed the wrong brake in the heat of the moment because if it was both he'd have done a stoppy. If its last second braking like I suspect it is, you don't think, its impossible your brain just grabs a handful of brake. Its just a typical urban rider who has very little skill. I see videos all the time of these mamils, they have fk all skill, they can cycle and that's it. Christ I could have stopped my motorbike in that distance.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
a decent avid v-brake or similar will stop that bike on a 50 piece, he's grabbed the wrong brake in the heat of the moment because if it was both he'd have done a stoppy. If its last second braking like I suspect it is, you don't think, its impossible your brain just grabs a handful of brake. Its just a typical urban rider who has very little skill. I see videos all the time of these mamils, they have fk all skill, they can cycle and that's it. Christ I could have stopped my motorbike in that distance.
He wouldn't have done a stoppy on that bike with a handful of front brake. The ground is wet, he's on skinny tyres, he's trying to swerve. A handful of front brake sees the bike tuck under and he goes over.

A bit of back brake there can possibly affect a last minute direction change to narrowly miss the ped, but the peds actions are inconsistent resulting in the crash.

Anyway, the cyclist is carrying far too much speed and has arrived on the scene too fast and unsighted, given he's undertaking the camera car. He's got no margin as the ped initially is out of his field of vision. I don't have a problem with what the pedestrian did, it's ok to cross the road at that point he doesn't need to be on a crossing. The bike has appeared at high speed after an undertake, and he can't stop in the distance he can see - which is a key test.

Cyclist fault.

heebeegeetee

28,776 posts

249 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Digby said:
And the rider doing the filming is still attempting gaps (blindly following the other guy?) even when an indicator is visible. Fantastic.
And of course as a lorry driver you'll be fully used to the 'indicator means move regardless' ethos. smile

On the kit I see the vid on its not clear if the indicator was on before the cyclist passed. Most people are saying it's a late indicate.

heebeegeetee

28,776 posts

249 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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hornetrider said:
He wouldn't have done a stoppy on that bike with a handful of front brake. The ground is wet, he's on skinny tyres, he's trying to swerve. A handful of front brake sees the bike tuck under and he goes over.

A bit of back brake there can possibly affect a last minute direction change to narrowly miss the ped, but the peds actions are inconsistent resulting in the crash.

Anyway, the cyclist is carrying far too much speed and has arrived on the scene too fast and unsighted, given he's undertaking the camera car. He's got no margin as the ped initially is out of his field of vision. I don't have a problem with what the pedestrian did, it's ok to cross the road at that point he doesn't need to be on a crossing. The bike has appeared at high speed after an undertake, and he can't stop in the distance he can see - which is a key test.

Cyclist fault.
And another totally bizarre explanation.

Some of you guys must have a harder time of it out there than I do, that's all I can think.

ETA: Some of smile

Edited by heebeegeetee on Friday 27th November 10:33

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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heebeegeetee said:
And another totally bizarre explanation.
Do elaborate hehe

Boydie88

3,283 posts

150 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Cross the road when it isn't clear, pedestrian fault.

As for stopping in the distance you give yourself, that's all well and good until someone puts themselves in that stopping distance.

Pedestrian was/is an impatient knob.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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moanthebairns said:
T0MMY said:
moanthebairns said:
This. He was a fk wit. Use the front. The rears for pulling skids infront of girls.

This Is the difference with cyclists

A car driver sees a pedestrian and anticipates to need to stop.

A cyclists continues as normal
He quite possibly used both. I'm almost scared to say this on here for fear of a lynching but I used to work as a cycle courier in Edinburgh so have done my fair share of emergency stops and evasions of meandering tourists and u-turning taxis. A full on emergency stop using both brakes, assuming you don't actually lock the front would tend to result in the rear coming round, same as on a motorbike as it will just lock up. In fact I wouldn't even use the back brake on a motorbike in the dry for an emergency stop as the rear wheel is pretty much off the ground anyway.
a decent avid v-brake or similar will stop that bike on a 50 piece, he's grabbed the wrong brake in the heat of the moment because if it was both he'd have done a stoppy. If its last second braking like I suspect it is, you don't think, its impossible your brain just grabs a handful of brake. Its just a typical urban rider who has very little skill. I see videos all the time of these mamils, they have fk all skill, they can cycle and that's it. Christ I could have stopped my motorbike in that distance.
Is that a motorbike with big fat tyres and twin hydraulic disc brakes with sufficient weight transfer to keep the front tyre planted?

23mm tyres running 100 PSI have fk all grip in the wet, grab a big handful of front and you're going to faceplant every time.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Boydie88 said:
Cross the road when it isn't clear, pedestrian fault.
Really? Camera car slows allowing ped to cross. Is jaywalking a crime in this country yes or no? Was the cyclist in view to the ped when he crosses yes or no? Did the cyclist undertake the camera car yes or no? Was the cyclist going too fast to stop yes or no?



zedx19

2,756 posts

141 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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