The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread
Discussion
KAgantua said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWejpnJFSZs
Bad driver overtakes just before a roundabout - I know, lets ride FULL PELT into the gap that wont be there when he arrives at the give way line - then ride off like a little baby
Then upload it to Youtube.
He does look like Nathan Barley...
To be fair to the cyclist it was a stty uneccesary overtake but did you really need to keep pedalling into that sitaution?
seems to kick the car or hit it too, riding into a narrowing gap when he should be behind the car which is clearly in front a few secs before. Bad driver overtakes just before a roundabout - I know, lets ride FULL PELT into the gap that wont be there when he arrives at the give way line - then ride off like a little baby
Then upload it to Youtube.
He does look like Nathan Barley...
To be fair to the cyclist it was a stty uneccesary overtake but did you really need to keep pedalling into that sitaution?
KAgantua said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWejpnJFSZs
Bad driver overtakes just before a roundabout - I know, lets ride FULL PELT into the gap that wont be there when he arrives at the give way line - then ride off like a little baby
Then upload it to Youtube.
He does look like Nathan Barley...
To be fair to the cyclist it was a stty uneccesary overtake but did you really need to keep pedalling into that sitaution?
When two s collide!Bad driver overtakes just before a roundabout - I know, lets ride FULL PELT into the gap that wont be there when he arrives at the give way line - then ride off like a little baby
Then upload it to Youtube.
He does look like Nathan Barley...
To be fair to the cyclist it was a stty uneccesary overtake but did you really need to keep pedalling into that sitaution?
Dark85 said:
It's quite difficult to see - but it looks as though the cyclist was crouched down on his approach to the junction?Also - there's a lot of 'street furniture' there?
It's here
TonyRPH said:
It's quite difficult to see - but it looks as though the cyclist was crouched down on his approach to the junction?
Also - there's a lot of 'street furniture' there?
It's here
Looks more like he decided to by-pass the red light and take to the pavement and came out on the pedestrian crossing part of the junction. Also - there's a lot of 'street furniture' there?
It's here
Alternatively he was in "Uphillfreewheeler" mode....
Dark85 said:
Cyclist entirely to blame as far as I can see. The light for the car was green.Also, the article says the rider was left unconscious on the ground, but he appears to be rolling about a fair bit. No doubt in a fair amount of pain but that's Darwinism for you.
Without going over the top, roles reversed in that scenario (but involving exactly the same outcome) would result in prosecution, re-training, fines and expensive PI claims.
To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
ferrariF50lover said:
Without going over the top, roles reversed in that scenario (but involving exactly the same outcome) would result in prosecution, re-training, fines and expensive PI claims.
To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
I think we all know the answers to your questions. To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
ferrariF50lover said:
Without going over the top, roles reversed in that scenario (but involving exactly the same outcome) would result in prosecution, re-training, fines and expensive PI claims.
To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
If we're going over the top the cyclist could have a minor bleed to the brain resulting in a personality disorder which ultimately causes him to go on the rampage in a Ramboesque killing spree. This killing spree is misinterpreted by GCHQ as an attack by Daesh who ramp up air strikes in the middle east. Unfortunately Daesh have managed to get hold of Plutonium and create a dirty bomb detonating it in the Soviet Union. Putin is pissed, unleashes nukes and the world ends...To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
Don't jump lights kids...
Oh, and don't exaggerate.
ferrariF50lover said:
Without going over the top, roles reversed in that scenario (but involving exactly the same outcome) would result in prosecution, re-training, fines and expensive PI claims.
To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
Exactly....the only option is the small claims court or the insurance company (and best of luck with that !)To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
the driver will however still have a "claim" on the books
http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/57065/cyclists-al...
HTP99 said:
ferrariF50lover said:
Without going over the top, roles reversed in that scenario (but involving exactly the same outcome) would result in prosecution, re-training, fines and expensive PI claims.
To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
I think we all know the answers to your questions. To go slightly over the top, it could result in a loss of livelihood for the driver, a failure to pay his mortgage, a breakdown of his marriage and loss of access to his children.
What happens as is? Does the lunatic on the bike pay to repair the car? Does he stand a chance of being banned from doing the thing he is so obviously dangerously incompetent to do? Will there be any repercussion at all?
TonyRPH said:
It's quite difficult to see - but it looks as though the cyclist was crouched down on his approach to the junction?
Also - there's a lot of 'street furniture' there?
My first thought on watching the video was that the junction appears to be particularly obscured by street furniture, making it difficult for the cyclist to see the car (not that he was looking!) but equally, for the car driver to see the cyclist. Also - there's a lot of 'street furniture' there?
Councils seem to obscure junctions and roundabout entrances on purpose - round here they've taken to planting large bushes and shrubs just where you need a good sight-line to judge whether you need to give way or not. I guess the aim is to force everyone stop even if they don't need to, but it seems dangerous to me.
stevesuk said:
My first thought on watching the video was that the junction appears to be particularly obscured by street furniture, making it difficult for the cyclist to see the car (not that he was looking!) but equally, for the car driver to see the cyclist.
Councils seem to obscure junctions and roundabout entrances on purpose - round here they've taken to planting large bushes and shrubs just where you need a good sight-line to judge whether you need to give way or not. I guess the aim is to force everyone stop even if they don't need to, but it seems dangerous to me.
Yes I've noticed that too. Perhaps they think it's safer for us to see fk all, instead of seeing 90% but missing something.Councils seem to obscure junctions and roundabout entrances on purpose - round here they've taken to planting large bushes and shrubs just where you need a good sight-line to judge whether you need to give way or not. I guess the aim is to force everyone stop even if they don't need to, but it seems dangerous to me.
Thing is, Wolfie, I've seen my scenario (including the slightly over the top element) happen, to a real man, in the real world. It's not so much an exaggeration as it is a realistic worst case. It would be fantastically unfortunate, but it could happen and to be honest, even with only the first paragraph, it still would represent a considerably greater burden to bear upon the driver than it seems would be brought upon the cyclist.
My question was genuine. I know what I think would happen, but unlike readers of the Daily Mail, I don't assume that my assumptions are correct and make the mistake of basing embarrassing, error strewn rants on those assumptions.
Perhaps there is a remedy available to the driver in this case? Perhaps the five-oh will take an interest? Perhaps there will be bans and fines and training courses? The truth from my end is that I haven't a clue about the process from here in these circumstances. My assumption is that the cyclist gets away scot free where the motorist would face potentially very serious consequences. This seems so unjust as to be implausible.
My question was genuine. I know what I think would happen, but unlike readers of the Daily Mail, I don't assume that my assumptions are correct and make the mistake of basing embarrassing, error strewn rants on those assumptions.
Perhaps there is a remedy available to the driver in this case? Perhaps the five-oh will take an interest? Perhaps there will be bans and fines and training courses? The truth from my end is that I haven't a clue about the process from here in these circumstances. My assumption is that the cyclist gets away scot free where the motorist would face potentially very serious consequences. This seems so unjust as to be implausible.
ferrariF50lover said:
Without going over the top, roles reversed in that scenario (but involving exactly the same outcome) would result in prosecution, re-training, fines and expensive PI claims.
Would it? Time and time again we see this the opposite way around the driver walks away totally scot free.Helen Measures for example. Hits cyclist head on and kills them, while overtaking on blind bend at 50mph. Cleared of careless driving.
Pamela Willocks and Russel Davies ran over John Edmund Searle, killing him after they were blinded by the low sun. Didn't think to stop, or slow down. No, just carry on driving when you can't see what's ahead. In fact somebody even ran over the good samaritan who stopped to help the cyclist. All cleared of careless driving.
Philip Sinden killed Daniel Squire. He was driving a van and texting at the time. Cleared of careless driving.
Sam Burrows hit and killed Colin Crowther after being blinded by the sun. Cleared of careless driving.
Christopher Shapland hit and killed Olin Poulson who was waiting to turn right. Christopher was driving at 55mph in a 40mph zone, using a handsfree (but claims to have stopped talking to concentrate on the overtake ) and only managed to scrub off 3mph before impact. Cleared of careless driving.
Graham Driver hit and killed Muthumanaka Pinhamy in his lorry. He pulled out of a junction and ran her over. Wasn't aware of her presence, even after hitting her. Left her dead in the road. Cleared of careless driving.
Daniel Mackay drove a van straight into the back of Elizabeth Brown and killed her. Claimed that a mystery van appeared, swerved in front of him and hid her presence. Despite the fact she was wearing hi vis and should have been visible for several hundred meters. Cleared of careless driving.
gowmonster said:
xjay1337 said:
Not sure if posted before but this was on the BBC page.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonsh...
Notice the lane / speed compared to the two approaching rear lorries....
Completely avoidable.
On the previous page, guy hogging the middle lane is causing an offence if he's been driving like that for ages, however it could be said he had just overtaken the lorry in lane 1. lorry is in the wrong for 1. hitting the guy, and 2. going into lane 3.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonsh...
Notice the lane / speed compared to the two approaching rear lorries....
Completely avoidable.
I went through that junction a few times in October and had the same thing nearly happen to me, I was taking it very easy as I did not know the area, cyclist jumped the red light ( well mine was on green so assumed he jumped it), luckily I missed him.
My daughter is at Cardiff Uni and walks past this junction (North Road/Colum Road) frequently and as seen many near misses, she says some of the foreign students have very little road sense(first thing she asked when I told her).
Coming from the left fork in the opposite direction (from where the cyclist came) is even worse as you have a bus lane and the normal lane with an island in between, it's good for buses but normal road users have to take it easy.
My daughter is at Cardiff Uni and walks past this junction (North Road/Colum Road) frequently and as seen many near misses, she says some of the foreign students have very little road sense(first thing she asked when I told her).
Coming from the left fork in the opposite direction (from where the cyclist came) is even worse as you have a bus lane and the normal lane with an island in between, it's good for buses but normal road users have to take it easy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12031540/Da...
Driver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
Driver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
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