The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread
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ralphrj said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12031540/Da...
Driver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
From the articleDriver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
Matt Stockdale, chairman of PoliceWitness, said: "I formed PoliceWitness after I was almost killed by a reckless HGV driver.
"Frustrated that there were no police to witness what had occurred, I decided to empower the public to assist the police, in order to hold those who flout the law to account. "To date, nearly 1,000 motorists up and down the country have faced positive formal police action following the submission of dash cam footage by those who call themselves PoliceWitnesses.
ralphrj said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12031540/Da...
Driver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
Thats a polo not a golf Driver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
giantdefy said:
ralphrj said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12031540/Da...
Driver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
From the articleDriver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
Matt Stockdale, chairman of PoliceWitness, said: "I formed PoliceWitness after I was almost killed by a reckless HGV driver.
"Frustrated that there were no police to witness what had occurred, I decided to empower the public to assist the police, in order to hold those who flout the law to account. "To date, nearly 1,000 motorists up and down the country have faced positive formal police action following the submission of dash cam footage by those who call themselves PoliceWitnesses.
its that dick that cant use a f
king motorway correctly, that has the most up your arse website going, the wky grass. Why is it all these people come into several if not dozens of altercations. I can count the amount of times on one hand in 500,000 miles where I have had an altercation and it wasn't even of this magnitude. 
giantdefy said:
ralphrj said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12031540/Da...
Driver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
From the articleDriver sentenced to 8 months in prison for dangerous overtaking caught on dashcam.
The Telegraph think it is the first time anyone has been imprisoned using evidence from another motorists dashcam footage.
Matt Stockdale, chairman of PoliceWitness, said: "I formed PoliceWitness after I was almost killed by a reckless HGV driver.
"Frustrated that there were no police to witness what had occurred, I decided to empower the public to assist the police, in order to hold those who flout the law to account. "To date, nearly 1,000 motorists up and down the country have faced positive formal police action following the submission of dash cam footage by those who call themselves PoliceWitnesses.
He's still a cretin with delusions of grandeur who can't drive for s
t.Koofler said:
Dark85 said:
Cyclist entirely to blame as far as I can see. The light for the car was green.Also, the article says the rider was left unconscious on the ground, but he appears to be rolling about a fair bit. No doubt in a fair amount of pain but that's Darwinism for you.
That was someone on a bike crashing into a car- ok it looks his fault but wheres our concern about whether or not he's ok
budgie smuggler said:
ferrariF50lover said:
Without going over the top, roles reversed in that scenario (but involving exactly the same outcome) would result in prosecution, re-training, fines and expensive PI claims.
Would it? Time and time again we see this the opposite way around the driver walks away totally scot free.Helen Measures for example. Hits cyclist head on and kills them, while overtaking on blind bend at 50mph. Cleared of careless driving.
Pamela Willocks and Russel Davies ran over John Edmund Searle, killing him after they were blinded by the low sun. Didn't think to stop, or slow down. No, just carry on driving when you can't see what's ahead. In fact somebody even ran over the good samaritan who stopped to help the cyclist. All cleared of careless driving.
Philip Sinden killed Daniel Squire. He was driving a van and texting at the time. Cleared of careless driving.
Sam Burrows hit and killed Colin Crowther after being blinded by the sun. Cleared of careless driving.
Christopher Shapland hit and killed Olin Poulson who was waiting to turn right. Christopher was driving at 55mph in a 40mph zone, using a handsfree (but claims to have stopped talking to concentrate on the overtake
) and only managed to scrub off 3mph before impact. Cleared of careless driving.Graham Driver hit and killed Muthumanaka Pinhamy in his lorry. He pulled out of a junction and ran her over. Wasn't aware of her presence, even after hitting her. Left her dead in the road. Cleared of careless driving.
Daniel Mackay drove a van straight into the back of Elizabeth Brown and killed her. Claimed that a mystery van appeared, swerved in front of him and hid her presence. Despite the fact she was wearing hi vis and should have been visible for several hundred meters. Cleared of careless driving.
Foppo said:
Because the light was on green doesn't always mean you have the right.Couple of kids crossing the road,my right of way kids killed.Are we becoming immune to somebody being hurt and don't care?
No, of course not-I think it's fair to say that the poster meant that the car had right of way and the collision was almost impossible to avoid. The bike rider just bolted out. As much as I hate bad road manners by cyclists, doing stupid things, I also know id be devastated if i ever knocked someone down.kapiteinlangzaam said:
Yup, driving on the AB is honestly not much fun and the widely-perpetrated idea that its some sort of driving utopia is a myth in my experience.
Driving to Frankfurt in the early morning a month ago, cruise control set to 160kph, almost no traffic about and pootling along minding my own business.
Eventually catch up to a Nissan Cash-Cow doing about 5kph less than me, I o/take on CC with no issues. Except he then proceeds to o/take me, pull in front and then gradually slow down. This repeats a few times before ive had enough and drive off 200+, only for him to follow and do the same. It lasted for about 15 mins with his driving getting progressively more unpredictable before I ducked in to a services at the last minute and he couldnt make the exit.
Totally random, totally un needed, very special.
Most of the autobahn around Nord-Rhein Westphalia is poorly surfaced, narrow, poorly sighted and horrible to drive in the wet.
I don't really find it any worse than it was for 8 years or so apart from people speeding up when you are overtaking them in restricted areas and then slowing down once they have been overtaken. I agree with NRW though but then again the traffic density is rediculous.Driving to Frankfurt in the early morning a month ago, cruise control set to 160kph, almost no traffic about and pootling along minding my own business.
Eventually catch up to a Nissan Cash-Cow doing about 5kph less than me, I o/take on CC with no issues. Except he then proceeds to o/take me, pull in front and then gradually slow down. This repeats a few times before ive had enough and drive off 200+, only for him to follow and do the same. It lasted for about 15 mins with his driving getting progressively more unpredictable before I ducked in to a services at the last minute and he couldnt make the exit.
Totally random, totally un needed, very special.
Most of the autobahn around Nord-Rhein Westphalia is poorly surfaced, narrow, poorly sighted and horrible to drive in the wet.
On the flip side, I had a great drive to and from Dresden about 6 weeks ago (the same AB that was featured with that BMW 335 driving like a t
t). Good lane dicipline that allowed me to do stay well above 250 from long stretches and top 310 a few times. On the way back, I was surprised to find out that a Ferarri 458 does not pull away that quickly with a rolling start above 230!matchmaker said:
So in each of the quoted examples, the driver was charged and appeared in court. After hearing the evidence, the jury/judge(s) acquitted?
Yes, ferrariF50lover asserted that drivers are punished for such things with fines/bans, whereas cyclists are not. Hence I posted a list illustrating that this often is not the case.budgie smuggler said:
Yes, ferrariF50lover asserted that drivers are punished for such things with fines/bans, whereas cyclists are not. Hence I posted a list illustrating that this often is not the case.
This really needn't be a fight, but I would like to make clear that 8 cases is not "often" unless this sort of thing has only happened a dozen or so times in history. It would be usual, I suggest, for a driver going about carelessly and injuring a cyclist as a result to face PI claims and whatnot. You've said (although not evidenced) that, on a small number of occasions, a successful prosecution has not followed. This disregards some elements of what I asserted and is of limited value given both the lack of actual evidence and some understanding of the reasons for the acquittals.
Perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps no driver would be prosecuted in the circumstances I put forward. As I made clear, I asked because I am aware that I don't know everything. Your post has done little (but not nothing) to persuade me away from my initial position.
Can you be more persuasive?
vikingaero said:
Good effort 
simoid said:
BrownBottle said:
C70R said:
BrownBottle said:
People taking horses onto the road are a fking menace. If they can't handle traffic driving along at a completely appropriate speed for the road they are travelling on then they should fk right off into a field somewhere where they can impersonate a Police officer and lay massive piles of steaming ste well out of every other s way.
Do you really think the red car was "appropriate"?king menace. If they can't handle traffic driving along at a completely appropriate speed for the road they are travelling on then they should fk right off into a field somewhere where they can impersonate a Police officer and lay massive piles of steaming ste well out of every other s way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2maCVdmTW3M&fe...
Unbelievably calm Germans after scooter hit and run.
(Changed video to one with explanation of circumstances)
Edited by simoid on Wednesday 2nd December 22:24
BrownBottle said:
It's driving down what looks like a straight section of NSL road with good visibility on a dry day WITH TWO SELFISH bdS ON HORSES INDULGING IN THEIR HOBBY AT THE INCONVENIENCE OF EVERY OTHER ROAD USER at a guess doing between 40-50 mph, I'd call that appropriate.
Ah that's better dS ON HORSES INDULGING IN THEIR HOBBY AT THE INCONVENIENCE OF EVERY OTHER ROAD USER at a guess doing between 40-50 mph, I'd call that appropriate.
Aaaaaanyway moving swiftly on..
vikingaero said:
How the hell's he managing that in a FWD van 
kapiteinlangzaam said:
I did have quite a nice drive today from Monchengladbach back to the NL border. Free-flowing, fast and people behaved. I had a quick go at Vmax in the XC90 (125mph ish) and got passed by an RS4 followed by a GT3RS and felt like I was going backwards
Glancing quickly over your post, and saw "people behaved", I thought "He's not in the UK" 
KrazyIvan said:
vikingaero said:
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