The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread

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cirian75

4,264 posts

234 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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zedx19 said:
The scooter, the car overtook way way too close.

The cyclist, well he should know better, 50/50 there, fiesta could not have seen him till it was to late, and the cyclist should have slowed down on seeing the road entry knowing a car could turn in.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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zedx19 said:
Back on topic
Cyclist knocked off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ULwnMwgBI
Hope the guy was ok - but wasnt that all of his own making ploughing through at that pace?

'Back on YouTube because Surrey Police say they don't have enough evidence for a prosecution'

Prosecute whom?

ETA
Is this enough info to show the car should have stopped there or enough to say the cyclist should have seen what was happening? Did either 'give way to other road users'
In real life you'll need thinking time.
At what point did the car driver think it was clear and go for it, and similarly for the cyclist



Edited by saaby93 on Monday 7th December 09:46

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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carlove said:
zedx19 said:
Back on topic
Cyclist knocked off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ULwnMwgBI
That one will cause some debate I'm sure. I'll start by blaming the car driver who should have checked the lane was clear and creeped though, it could have been a bus or taxi using the bus lane.
Cyclist doesn't have good hazard perception though, should have slowed down approaching the junction, especially as there was a gap left by the Range Rover. Unrelated to the accident but he should have slowed on approach to the crossing as well.
50/50 I'd say. It would be the same if it was a motorcyclist. I think the cyclist was travelling far too fast especially as there is a junction there and the queueing traffic has left a gap - he should have anticipated the possibility and adjusted his speed to suit - but he didn't because cyclist and headcam.

That said the car, by the book, needs to make sure the way ahead is clear. I don't think it could have been expected to see a cyclist travelling at that speed hidden by the traffic.

CYMR0

3,940 posts

201 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Cyclist nearly takes out a pedestrian on the crossing as well.

Agree that it's not defensive cycling but it is legally the driver's fault, and while there is clearly enough evidence to establish civil fault, I don't think that the standard of driving merits a due care charge either.

Bennet

2,122 posts

132 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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If he'd been filtering down a non-existant lane, I'd be blaming the cyclist for that. Since it was an actual lane though, I think the driver should have been way way more careful. Cyclist still needs to anticipate these things though.

The Wookie

13,973 posts

229 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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hornetrider said:
carlove said:
zedx19 said:
Back on topic
Cyclist knocked off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ULwnMwgBI
That one will cause some debate I'm sure. I'll start by blaming the car driver who should have checked the lane was clear and creeped though, it could have been a bus or taxi using the bus lane.
Cyclist doesn't have good hazard perception though, should have slowed down approaching the junction, especially as there was a gap left by the Range Rover. Unrelated to the accident but he should have slowed on approach to the crossing as well.
50/50 I'd say. It would be the same if it was a motorcyclist. I think the cyclist was travelling far too fast especially as there is a junction there and the queueing traffic has left a gap - he should have anticipated the possibility and adjusted his speed to suit - but he didn't because cyclist and headcam.

That said the car, by the book, needs to make sure the way ahead is clear. I don't think it could have been expected to see a cyclist travelling at that speed hidden by the traffic.
I don't buy his 16mph either, not exactly scientific but a quick check of the length of the zigzags on google maps and an iphone stopwatch gives me nearly 20mph, which seems quick to me

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Spot on YT comment actually.

Comment said:
Well let me explain this to you. We Dutch find you UK cyclists very funny. Somehow you seem to believe you're participating in the Olympic Sprint finals no matter where you are.

It is quite simple; if you can't brake in time you're going too fast. Yes there is a chance a car will turn in front of you. You may even hit it. But at that speed not even the best fortune teller can look far enough into the future. There are cars and a truck obstructing your view. Is it really that difficult to understand there could be a situation? Notice the pedestrian taken fully by surprise. The difference is she walked slower then a turning car. Had it been mom running to the shop pushing a child buggy, this cyclist would not have hit the car.

If you want to set a new personal best then go to the countryside where you can race all you want. In town you simply have to adept. You're in the bike lane and there is other traffic. You can't go 20mph and expect the whole world to clear your trajectory. And you will never ever see a Dutch cyclist pedal like a fking idiot in an urban area on a busy road with junctions every 100 yards. Only UK cyclists truly believe they can pedal as fast as Froome through traffic.

Really sad your cycling culture is fked up during the last 50 years of a government doing nothing for cyclists. The same rights as cars!! Yeah sure. How about the same right as cyclists? The only thing rubbish laws did is Captain Coconuts speeding like idiots in, and past traffic. You're riding a bicycle for Christ's sake. Be a cyclist. You have the right to go as slow as you want and be SAFE!!!!!. That my friend is a lot more important than a couple of guys in Lycra who think they are piloting a fighter jet.

The driver had no chance at all. Cycle a bit slower and it won't happen as easily. Grow up.

budgie smuggler

5,400 posts

160 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Bennet said:
If he'd been filtering down a non-existant lane, I'd be blaming the cyclist for that. Since it was an actual lane though, I think the driver should have been way way more careful. Cyclist still needs to anticipate these things though.
Yep.

kapiteinlangzaam said:
The cyclist needs to learn some 'defensive' cycling pronto.

100% the cars drivers fault, but that starts to matter less when you are in hospital with broken bones or worse. What happened was entirely predictable, and with a little less haste the cyclist would have had a much better day all round.
...and yep. Easy mistake to make. I bet the Fiesta wouldn't even have stopped for a car though, the speed he went across there. Possible a car or motorcycle could've been coming along at 30 or more.




Edited by budgie smuggler on Monday 7th December 10:02

jodypress

1,930 posts

275 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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CYMR0 said:
Cyclist nearly takes out a pedestrian on the crossing as well.
Do you mean the pedestrian that was crossing on a red man light / green light for traffic?
Luckily she had the piece of mind to actually look before she crossed the second lane unlike the Fiesta.

I'm goingto lay blame 50/50 on this one.
Fiesta going through gap without stopping to look for oncoming traffic. Cyclist for not slowing enough coming up to a hazard.

Edited by jodypress on Monday 7th December 10:55


Edited by jodypress on Monday 7th December 10:56

jodypress

1,930 posts

275 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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CYMR0 said:
Cyclist nearly takes out a pedestrian on the crossing as well.
Do you mean the pedestrian that was crossing on a red man light / green light for traffic?
Luckily she had the piece of mind to actually look before she crossed the second lane unlike the Fiesta.

I'm goingto lay blame 50/50 on this one.
Fiesta going through gap without stopping to look for oncoming traffic. Cyclist for not slowing enough coming up to a hazard.

Edited by jodypress on Monday 7th December 10:55


Edited by jodypress on Monday 7th December 10:56

Pebbles167

3,485 posts

153 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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The new UK Bad drivers compilation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPyvD1cL8T4

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Cyclist incident 50/50? No chance IMO. Car driver has no right to be turning across traffic unless he knows it's clear - and obviously he didn't.

Could've been mitigated by a smarter cyclist of course. But the car driver has made a Highway Code mistake, the cyclist has made a self-preservation mistake.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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simoid said:
Cyclist incident 50/50? No chance IMO. Car driver has no right to be turning across traffic unless he knows it's clear - and obviously he didn't.
Did you miss the bit where the police are taking no further action?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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anonymous said:
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How can they slow down whilst keeping their Strava kudos for doing the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs? Hmmm?

untakenname

4,973 posts

193 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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saaby93 said:


Edited by saaby93 on Monday 7th December 09:46
I wonder if the rangerover flashed the fiesta to proceed? Imo they should be prosecuted as the fiesta is cutting the corner massively so the cyclist may have thought it was safe to processed as the rangerover was blocking the actual entrance to the road.
16mph isn't that fast tbh, a motorbike could easily be doing double that.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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stting Peugeot.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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hornetrider said:
simoid said:
Cyclist incident 50/50? No chance IMO. Car driver has no right to be turning across traffic unless he knows it's clear - and obviously he didn't.
Did you miss the bit where the police are taking no further action?
No I didn't - lots of different factors contribute to police taking further action however. As a car driver I'd fully expect to be considered in the wrong if I turned across traffic and blocked someone's path (appreciate there's a limit to how fast someone should be going down that bus lane, perhaps the cyclist was beyond that and the car driver couldn't see...?)

Toxic - I think we're saying similar things. Cyclist needs to have more respect for themself and appreciation of possible danger areas in terms of mistakes by car drivers.

Anyway my 2p, not a biggie, feel free not to reply and instead go and find some dash cam clips biggrin

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Pebbles167 said:
The new UK Bad drivers compilation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPyvD1cL8T4
Suspect a few crims/uninsured/crimes in progress on that one? A few hit and runs and "Grand Theft Auto" style driving.

Pebbles167

3,485 posts

153 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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I reckon so. Also, that lorry that rams straight into stationary traffic. Wouldn't be surprised to hear of some serious injuries or death relating to that one.

standards

1,144 posts

219 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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M4cruiser said:
GaryGlitter said:
Angry Dashcamman is back.

What a .
What a fking wker.
What a self righteous prick.

https://youtu.be/2zScBWeyfFE
He certainly makes an idiot of himself! Bring it on!
Can anyone tell me why he is SO stressed and cross? He's got to be heading for a heart attack or similar.
Maybe he never makes a mistake-it's just everyone else.
Maybe he should call himself Nobody.

Edited by standards on Monday 7th December 12:42

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