The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread
Discussion
Vipers said:
M4cruiser said:
Vipers said:
Could have chopped the vid down to just after the bikes zoomed past. Bloody idiots.
I could, but someone would ask how much time the bikers saved by doing what they did. if a tree falls in the forest...etc
M4cruiser said:
Like this you mean.....
I wonder why we bother with cycle boxes when they do this? If cyclists want us car drivers to behave then they should damn well keep to the rules themselves!
Chicken and egg then.I wonder why we bother with cycle boxes when they do this? If cyclists want us car drivers to behave then they should damn well keep to the rules themselves!
No excuse for the cyclists going through the red lights, but what level of compliance with the rules do "us car drivers" expect from cyclists before "us car drivers" start behaving? Or maybe we should ALL start complying, irrespective of other road users?
M4cruiser said:
Like this you mean.....
I wonder why we bother with cycle boxes when they do this? If cyclists want us car drivers to behave then they should damn well keep to the rules themselves!
Action starts at about 25 seconds:-
https://youtu.be/XQJETuQg0HE
What a waste of paint and coloured tarmac.
So if the bikes were registered they wouldn't have gone past amber stop lights or turned right without indicating like those registered vehicles did?I wonder why we bother with cycle boxes when they do this? If cyclists want us car drivers to behave then they should damn well keep to the rules themselves!
Action starts at about 25 seconds:-
https://youtu.be/XQJETuQg0HE
What a waste of paint and coloured tarmac.
Talk about blinkered view point! Action starts at 25 secs, ignore the cars disobeying the amber stops and not indicating right if you wouldn't mind.
Dear god!
M4cruiser said:
PoleDriver said:
WinstonWolf said:
eltax91 said:
Bit naughty at the lights this morning!
Now if that had been a cyclist there would have been uproar...I wonder why we bother with cycle boxes when they do this? If cyclists want us car drivers to behave then they should damn well keep to the rules themselves!
Action starts at about 25 seconds:-
https://youtu.be/XQJETuQg0HE
What a waste of paint and coloured tarmac.
Let's be honest here, pretty much every driver breaks the law every single day, cars sometimes speed, cyclists sometimes go through red lights.
The justification in every single case is "no one was hurt".
cirian75 said:
I cycle to work most days now, me and the other cyclists who wait at the lights and see these knobs do this.
Our thoughts are
"wkers, this is what gives us a bad name"
Yet for some reason the car drivers doing the same won't be thinking the same. Like me when I'm rarely obeying speed limits, I tend not to worry abut my 'tribe', not least 'cos most of my tribe seem to be doing the same.Our thoughts are
"wkers, this is what gives us a bad name"
CoolHands said:
I think it demonstrates quite neatly exactly why you wouldn't want to wait there doing nothing for ages on a push bike. They are being more efficient so assuming they observed potential risks properly as they approached what's the problem? They impeded nobody.
if a tree falls in the forest...etc
So by the same token then it would be absolutely fine for me to "observe the potential risks properly as I approach" in my car and proceed through red lights so long as I'm impeding no-one and making sure I'm driving as efficiently as possible? if a tree falls in the forest...etc
All that jazz said:
So by the same token then it would be absolutely fine for me to "observe the potential risks properly as I approach" in my car and proceed through red lights so long as I'm impeding no-one and making sure I'm driving as efficiently as possible?
Trouble is if we get it wrong we're likely to hurt someone, they're not.Also, if they jump off and run alongside then they're legal. They don't have to jump off for me, is what I'm saying.
It's us motorists who have ground the roads right down, clogged them right up, have seen to it that the land has to be covered in traffic management. Why should people not contributing to all that have to suffer too?
heebeegeetee said:
Trouble is if we get it wrong we're likely to hurt someone, they're not.
Also, if they jump off and run alongside then they're legal. They don't have to jump off for me, is what I'm saying.
It's us motorists who have ground the roads right down, clogged them right up, have seen to it that the land has to be covered in traffic management. Why should people not contributing to all that have to suffer too?
Good point. Why should I have to pay tax when I don't use public services? Why should I have to drive at speed limits when I could safely drive faster? Also, if they jump off and run alongside then they're legal. They don't have to jump off for me, is what I'm saying.
It's us motorists who have ground the roads right down, clogged them right up, have seen to it that the land has to be covered in traffic management. Why should people not contributing to all that have to suffer too?
Cliftonite said:
heebeegeetee said:
Yet for some reason the car drivers doing the same won't be thinking the same. Like me when I'm rarely obeying speed limits, I tend not to worry abut my 'tribe', not least 'cos most of my tribe seem to be doing the same.
Knob!All that jazz said:
CoolHands said:
I think it demonstrates quite neatly exactly why you wouldn't want to wait there doing nothing for ages on a push bike. They are being more efficient so assuming they observed potential risks properly as they approached what's the problem? They impeded nobody.
if a tree falls in the forest...etc
So by the same token then it would be absolutely fine for me to "observe the potential risks properly as I approach" in my car and proceed through red lights so long as I'm impeding no-one and making sure I'm driving as efficiently as possible? if a tree falls in the forest...etc
heebeegeetee said:
Also, if they jump off and run alongside then they're legal...
Don't forget we car drivers can do this as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIWxzhGI0jQ
The problem of the bus driver should be seen through the the Swiss cheese model of risk.
Rarely does one "error" lead to an event, it's when all the holes line up through multiple barriers that an accident happens.
The Soduko puzzle is unlikely to lead directly to an event, but it's degrading barriers.
If a cyclist put himself in a daft position, if the driver was shouted at because he missed the green light doing the puzzle, then drove off without his normal checks etc etc.
Analysing fault trees and risk is a specialist subject in our industry but the simple message is have multiple barriers and work hard to ensure the most unreliable one (humans) AR intolerant to low standards.
If I was doing a sudoku while taking a reactor critical, I'm sure many people would not be impressed even though all the other protection layers would undoubtedly prevent an event.
Rarely does one "error" lead to an event, it's when all the holes line up through multiple barriers that an accident happens.
The Soduko puzzle is unlikely to lead directly to an event, but it's degrading barriers.
If a cyclist put himself in a daft position, if the driver was shouted at because he missed the green light doing the puzzle, then drove off without his normal checks etc etc.
Analysing fault trees and risk is a specialist subject in our industry but the simple message is have multiple barriers and work hard to ensure the most unreliable one (humans) AR intolerant to low standards.
If I was doing a sudoku while taking a reactor critical, I'm sure many people would not be impressed even though all the other protection layers would undoubtedly prevent an event.
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