RE: Golf R 400 and GTI Clubsport spotted

RE: Golf R 400 and GTI Clubsport spotted

Friday 22nd May 2015

Golf R 400 and GTI Clubsport spotted

Golf R's supremacy looks in peril ... from an even faster Golf R and stripped out GTI Clubsport



No disguises needed for these two test mules, the most interesting of which is probably the blue one. That's the much-desired Golf R 400, boasting - you guessed it! - 400hp according to Autocar. While the noise issuing from those four exhausts could hardly be called smooth, the warbling is not strong enough to suggest that VW has pried the 2.5 five-cylinder from under Audi's lock and key.

Half cage and Recaros for Clubsport
Half cage and Recaros for Clubsport
Under the skin it's more than likely a version of the EA888 four-cylinder, though one with a bigger oil cooler, revised turbo and plenty more poke. The most obvious external difference is the WRC-inspired fixed rear wing. Other changes include ever-so-slightly flared arches, wider wheels and bigger brakes with 'wavy' discs.

The red car is badged as a GTI, but also sports the same rear wing as the R 400, not to mention a half roll cage, with matching Recaro buckets and harnesses too. But the Pistenklause rumours are that the red car's safety additions are actually official options for the recently announced Clubsport Edition. And, best of all, that there's a mechanical limited-slip diff being talked about for the 265hp FWD hatchback. It's only a rumour, but it would make sense when this Golf is being pitched directly against the similarly track-spec'd Megane.





[Sources: Autocar]

 

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TartanPaint

Original Poster:

2,982 posts

139 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I'm not saying they're not, but has anyone managed to verify these are test mules? Autocar didn't provide any evidence that they weren't just customer's blinged-up 'ring toys, and most of what they write is p*sh anyway... I just wondered if PH turned anything up or just regurgitated Autocar's blurb?

Was it a manufacturer-only test day, or are the plates registered to VAG? Anything at all? Fingers crossed.

scarecrow

2,961 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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This is turning into an absolute golden era for the hot (mega) hatch!
Really like the idea of the clubsport. Hopefully lighter and with the possibility of a mechanical LSD it would be my hatch of choice!

The 400hp R will no doubt be ballistic but I would imagine the price will be as well.

Roll on summer

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

185 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Dunno but they do look pretty awesome smile I've not felt too excited about modern 'hot' VW Golfs but these look extremely sharp!

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Apparently it was spotted coming out the industry pool gate where prototypes go in and out, that and someone high up at VW said it was in testing at the 'ring at the moment.

Dale Lomas

218 posts

155 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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TartanPaint said:
I'm not saying they're not, but has anyone managed to verify these are test mules? Autocar didn't provide any evidence that they weren't just customer's blinged-up 'ring toys, and most of what they write is p*sh anyway... I just wondered if PH turned anything up or just regurgitated Autocar's blurb?

Was it a manufacturer-only test day, or are the plates registered to VAG? Anything at all? Fingers crossed.
Industry pool, Wolfsburg plates, plus a nice close-up-personal poke around the mules while drivers were busy doing something else wink

p1stonhead

25,528 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Cant believe there is going to be a golf with 400bhp...

Thats lunacy. And brilliant.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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The subtly wider arches on that R400 should have been on the R too. Completely transforms the car IMO.

TartanPaint

Original Poster:

2,982 posts

139 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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andrewparker said:
Apparently it was spotted coming out the industry pool gate where prototypes go in and out, that and someone high up at VW said it was in testing at the 'ring at the moment.
Dale Lomas said:
Industry pool, Wolfsburg plates, plus a nice close-up-personal poke around the mules while drivers were busy doing something else wink
Woohoo!

WCZ

10,517 posts

194 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I was worried they had canned this!

roadie

622 posts

262 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Still too many exhausts.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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roadie said:
Still too many exhausts.
Think we'll have to wait and see on that - the concept had only two.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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roadie said:
Still too many exhausts.
I think it's time we got over that. It won't be difficult or expensive to ditch them in favour single pipes, if so desired. It's just one silencer with 4 outlets after all.

james_tigerwoods

16,287 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
roadie said:
Still too many exhausts.
I think it's time we got over that. It won't be difficult or expensive to ditch them in favour single pipes, if so desired. It's just one silencer with 4 outlets after all.
Idiot question here - Are multi exhausts/outputs like in the R ever really needed?

InfamousKeiran

704 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I'm quite anti Golf R - Probably because of them damn exhausts but there's something really alluring about the R400...

If only there was an R400 Clubsport...idea

clowesy

293 posts

121 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I like the Golf R, but I really don't get the point of the 400. 400hp or not, its still a relatively dull four cylinder engine in a car that will in all likelihood be very much the same to drive as the already brilliant standard R. I'd sooner have less power and the more interesting engine of the Audi RS3. The clubsport should make even less sense but I love the idea.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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clowesy said:
I like the Golf R, but I really don't get the point of the 400. 400hp or not, its still a relatively dull four cylinder engine in a car that will in all likelihood be very much the same to drive as the already brilliant standard R. I'd sooner have less power and the more interesting engine of the Audi RS3. The clubsport should make even less sense but I love the idea.
Love it. Only on PH would someone describe a 400bhp hatchback as 'dull'. It's got more power than a Ferrari 355!

clowesy

293 posts

121 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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St John Smythe said:
clowesy said:
I like the Golf R, but I really don't get the point of the 400. 400hp or not, its still a relatively dull four cylinder engine in a car that will in all likelihood be very much the same to drive as the already brilliant standard R. I'd sooner have less power and the more interesting engine of the Audi RS3. The clubsport should make even less sense but I love the idea.
Love it. Only on PH would someone describe a 400bhp hatchback as 'dull'. It's got more power than a Ferrari 355!
Note the use of the word "relatively". So just to clarify for you, the engine in the Golf is a little dull "relative" to the five cylinder engine in the Audi. Only on PH...

mnx42

215 posts

163 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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ManOpener said:
The subtly wider arches on that R400 should have been on the R too. Completely transforms the car IMO.
+1

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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clowesy said:
St John Smythe said:
clowesy said:
I like the Golf R, but I really don't get the point of the 400. 400hp or not, its still a relatively dull four cylinder engine in a car that will in all likelihood be very much the same to drive as the already brilliant standard R. I'd sooner have less power and the more interesting engine of the Audi RS3. The clubsport should make even less sense but I love the idea.
Love it. Only on PH would someone describe a 400bhp hatchback as 'dull'. It's got more power than a Ferrari 355!
Note the use of the word "relatively". So just to clarify for you, the engine in the Golf is a little dull "relative" to the five cylinder engine in the Audi. Only on PH...
I haven't driven the R 400 so wouldn't know about that.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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I wouldn't expect the character of the engine to be much different to that in a regular R, after all it is still a highly strung turbo'd 4 cylinder engine.