National Tyres now using Fuchs oil.

[Condi]

Its only brand recognition. LukOil are a large oil major and own branded fuel stations etc on the continent. Just that nobody hear has heard of them. The products meet all manufacturer specs.

Im sure that the brand of oil they were selling wasn't why people went to National - it was the price. And at that price, does it matter what brand they use?

[Jimmy Recard]

Lukoil is a proper oil company. I wouldn't see it as a problem in the slightest.

Russia's largest non-state owned company. Don't worry about it, it's blue chip.

[Funkstar De Luxe]

I would only use what the manufacturer recommended - no mater what a website or a garage told me. I don’t care about saving £30 per year by using the latest trendy st

[Jimmy Recard]

Funkstar De Luxe said:

I would only use what the manufacturer recommended - no mater what a website or a garage told me. I don’t care about saving £30 per year by using the latest trendy st

I've never met a person who chooses engine oil by fashion or trends

[SidewaysSi]

Lukoil is definitively the oil of choice of the Apple generation. Saw a guy with a baseball cap on the wrong way around fill his BMW up with the oil whilst listening to gangster rap.

After that I would never contemplate touching the stuff.

[Klippie]

Good oil prices aside...I wouldn’t let any of that lot look at my car never mind work on it again.

A simple task of putting two new tyres on two wheels was beyond their comprehension of how to treat a customer and their vehicle and do a good job.

A fking disgrace.

[Condi]

Funkstar De Luxe said:

I would only use what the manufacturer recommended - no mater what a website or a garage told me. I don’t care about saving £30 per year by using the latest trendy st

How much do you think the oil companies pay the car manufacturers to recommend their oil? And if the oil meets manufacturers specifications, what do you think is special about recommended oil?

[Funkstar De Luxe]

Condi said:

How much do you think the oil companies pay the car manufacturers to recommend their oil? And if the oil meets manufacturers specifications, what do you think is special about recommended oil?

Nothing. Just like the petrol companies don't pay them to recommend 98.

All testing that the engine has ever gone through has the same oil. From durability to emissions. Every single hour spent testing that engine and revising it was done so using the recommended oil. Feel free to change it to what ever you like, but you pretty much invalidate thousands of hours of testing.

Also there's a word missing from your quote - "meets manufacturers minimum specifications"

[Funkstar De Luxe]

Jimmy Recard said:

I've never met a person who chooses engine oil by fashion or trends

No? Then why we not just buying what it tells us to in the owner's book? Or do you think you've found the secret sauce? Cheap AND good!

[berlintaxi]

Funkstar De Luxe said:

All testing that the engine has ever gone through has the same oil. From durability to emissions. Every single hour spent testing that engine and revising it was done so using the recommended oil. Feel free to change it to what ever you like, but you pretty much invalidate thousands of hours of testing.

And engines never wear, they all stay exactly the same as the day they came out of the crate forever.

[iphonedyou]

Funkstar De Luxe said:

Nothing. Just like the petrol companies don't pay them to recommend 98.

All testing that the engine has ever gone through has the same oil. From durability to emissions. Every single hour spent testing that engine and revising it was done so using the recommended oil. Feel free to change it to what ever you like, but you pretty much invalidate thousands of hours of testing.

Also there's a word missing from your quote - "meets manufacturers minimum specifications"

You're a marketer's dream!

[KungFuPanda]

Funkstar De Luxe said:

Jimmy Recard said:

I've never met a person who chooses engine oil by fashion or trends

No? Then why we not just buying what it tells us to in the owner's book? Or do you think you've found the secret sauce? Cheap AND good!

Don't tell everyone.

[Condi]

Funkstar De Luxe said:

Also there's a word missing from your quote - "meets manufacturers minimum specifications"

And do you have any idea, at all, what the difference between a manufacturer recommended oil and a cheap oil which meets the minimum standard is? IE how much does the recommended oil go over and above what is required?

I bought 20 litres of Westway oil from Ebay which meets all the Audi specifications for £58.80, or less than £3 a litre. Castrol Edge Professional (as recommended by Audi) is £10 a litre from Halfords. Please tell me what makes the Castrol oil over 3 times as expensive as the cheaper version?

[Bonefish Blues]

Just to refresh this thread, I used them for a LukOil 0/30 change a few months ago and they did a diligent and cheap job and nothing's broken in the months since.

...and they've now changed suppliers once again, and are Valvoline exclusive, I notice, just in case it makes the slightest difference to anyone

[TarquinMX5]

Do you think they've been carefully studying their customer satisfaction surveys and spending £tens of thousands to test the differing suppliers' oils in order to source the absolute very best performing oil for their customers, or, much less likely, they're simply going with the cheapest tender.

I'd like to think that these big companies are absolutely working in their customers' very best interests and not being swayed by cheaper sources, a view I've heard expressed by a few cynics

[anonymous-user]

I was going to use them, but checked ATS and they are 20 quid cheaper and use Mobil oil. Yes you will come out with a list of jobs needed, but that works for both.